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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:02 PM   #61 (permalink)
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"He kept Elisabeth prisoner by telling her the cellar was booby trapped to explode if she attempted to escape."

I think that would have been an option that I would have taken after a certain amount of time.
No mother would sacrifice her children though.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:03 PM   #62 (permalink)
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^ IMO many mothers would know. I would know if my daughter started acting different, I would see if she became withdrawn from school/social settings/friends, I would notice if she became depressed, I would notice if she acted different around her father. I would know if she was acting out because something bad was happening to her.
Do you have kids though? It's easy to say that now, but there are SO many other reasons why a teenager would change. If you can even talk to them that is...I knew during my teen years my mom knew nothing about me becaue all she got from me was "Uh huh" or "I don't know."
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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:27 PM   #63 (permalink)
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No mother would sacrifice her children though.
My understanding is her oldest child is 19. That means for the first 5 years she was there alone. I get that she was probably a broken woman before she was even put in there, having been raped since 11. But I would have thought that 5 years stuck in there alone with the only visits being from your rapist. I think I would have tried to escape, even if it meant I was killed by a booby trap.

I guess no-one really knows what they would do unless they were in that situation. Maybe her will to survive was so great that she felt the only way to ensure that was to not try to escape.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:34 PM   #64 (permalink)
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No mother would sacrifice her children though.

I think I would before I saw them being tortured.
But who can really say what they would do until they are in that situation, you know?
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Old May 1st, 2008, 01:46 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Very Sophie's Choice, this discussion!

Apparently the crazy fuckhead told his daughter taht if she or any of them did anything to harm him gas would be released into the chamber and they would die. You just can't say what you would do in this situation, especially because she had been abused for eyars prior so was already under his 'spell, as it were.
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Old May 3rd, 2008, 02:04 PM   #66 (permalink)
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more from the daily mail-

Sex slave dungeon: As dramatic family snaps emerge, the question is asked - how could NONE of Josef Fritzl's family known his horrific secret | the Daily Mail

Apparently the oldest child that was rushed to hospital is not expected to live, she has multiple organ failure . If she dies the authorities are going to charge the 'dad' with murder. But he should be charged with murder anyway because it was his fault that one of the twin babies died soon after birth.

Evil dad Josef Fritzl's dungeon victim is dying - Mirror.co.uk
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Old May 5th, 2008, 02:55 PM   #67 (permalink)
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[quote=SVZ;1180837]No mother would sacrifice her children though.[/quote


Oh, please. I'm sorry, but do you read the news? Women sell their kids out every day. They let their boyfriends molest their kids or beat their kids and they look the other way. All moms aren't created equal.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 03:27 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I've waited quite awhile to say anything about this story because my head has been asploding. IMO there simply is no punishment enough to right this wrong. I think the best thing anyone could do in this situation is to kill the father, at least then his offspring would be without their greatest source of fear and may have a shot of developing some sort of normalcy in the future. I mean, could you imagine looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life wondering if this bastard was ever going to be released or escape? I think his execution is the only way to begin freeing them from that dungeon. Its not enough, but nothing could ever be enough.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #69 (permalink)
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^^ Austria is part of the EU. I believe one of the rules you have to follow as an EU nation is no capital punishment. I could be wrong on that.

Put him in jail for the rest of his life. I'm sure the other prisoners in there will have heard about what's happened and will take care of him anyways. Death would probably be too easy of a way out.

I'm still completely horrified about this story. I can't begin to fathom the lives of the poor kids and their mother that had to stay down there.
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Old May 5th, 2008, 04:56 PM   #70 (permalink)
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His lawyer is drafting an insanity defence to try to get him put in hospital for his sentence.

If that happens then there is no justice in the world.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 08:22 AM   #71 (permalink)
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There is no f---ng way they should accept his insanity defense.

The crazy ASSHOLE was able to function for all those years, he was functioning when he kept bringing children to the door. He was functioning when he was a husband.

Insanity defense my REAR.
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Now it's being reported that he may have raped the daughter/granddaughter--the one near death. This pacifist wants a few minutes alone with him and a baseball bat.
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This pacifist here is all for stoning him..i mean it.
I would gladly do it..
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Old May 6th, 2008, 10:58 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I'm all for throwing him in general population in prison and letting the inmates take care of him. They'll think of better things than me.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Yanna,remember a few years back,the *father*abusing his young son in here?
Well,they let him lose in prison.
I dont know what they did to him,but he killed himself months later..
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