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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:38 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I don't understand how the mother wouldn't know did she ever wonder. What was in a cellar?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM   #47 (permalink)
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This woman knew. She may have lied to herself that she didn't, but she knew.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 03:27 PM   #48 (permalink)
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This woman knew. She may have lied to herself that she didn't, but she knew.

Yeah, I bet now she is going to say she didn't know her husband raped her daughter for 7 years before she "disappeared." I wonder if he had other daughters he was raping too.

I don't believe that shit at all. If my husband was raping my daughter, as a mother, I WOULD KNOW.

One of my grandmother's sister was a mother of 6 children. 4 of her daughters were raped for years by her husband. She claims she had no clue. All her children believe she knew and never did anything about it. I feel mothers like this are just as guilty as the rapists.

Out of all the people in the world, your mother should be the one protecting you. How sad.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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^^I don't agree you would know. Anyone remember the woman who only found out her husband was raping her daughter when he accidentally left a video he had made of one of his assaults in the video player? She ahdn't a fucking clue...took the tape straight to the coppers and had him put away.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #50 (permalink)
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^ IMO many mothers would know. I would know if my daughter started acting different, I would see if she became withdrawn from school/social settings/friends, I would notice if she became depressed, I would notice if she acted different around her father. I would know if she was acting out because something bad was happening to her.

What I am saying is that I believe I would know if something was off. And I would find out what the fuck was going on.

The people I know that were molested/raped as children showed signs that something horrible was going on. Kids' personalities sometimes do a 180 when sexual abuse is happening.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:17 PM   #51 (permalink)
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"The man police described as "dynamic, bossy and authoritarian" faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted of raping his daughter. His victims and wife are receiving psychiatric care at a secret location."

As if this story wasn't horrible enough - he faces up to 15 years in prison????? Although he is already in his 70's and would probably die in prison anyway after 15 years - this is appalling that he wouldn't get anything less than life! What an insult to his victims.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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What the shit, 15 years?!
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Old April 30th, 2008, 05:37 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Here's more...a neighbour saw the freak ferrying food and heard noises but never put two and two together. I feel for the guy because who would think the unthinkable?

Tenant who lived in incest house for 12 years heard knocking from sex dungeon 'but did nothing' | the Daily Mail
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Old April 30th, 2008, 05:55 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Sick fucker. I hope there's a special kind of hell for people like him
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Old April 30th, 2008, 06:16 AM   #55 (permalink)
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WTFFF this is crazy i dont understand how a human mind could actually WANT to have sex with their daughter and lock them up and so much more... arrgghhh
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Old April 30th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #56 (permalink)
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What the shit, 15 years?!
Well, this is Europe we're talking about here. Not surprised. The government probably didn't want to seem cruel or unusual in its administration of punishment.

Yes, that was sarcasm.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 10:39 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I think that perhaps if the mother didn't know... she may have had issues of her own. Now I don't say this because she's a woman, I say this because how can you truly not know that there is another presence in your home, and that it is highly unusual your grandchildren are arriving at your house and grandaddy is always finding them?

Either she was completely oblivious, or she did know but repressed it somehow, OR she is just as sick as he is.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 10:40 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I think that perhaps if the mother didn't know... she may have had issues of her own. Now I don't say this because she's a woman, I say this because how can you truly not know that there is another presence in your home, and that it is highly unusual your grandchildren are arriving at your house and grandaddy is always finding them?

Either she was completely oblivious, or she did know but repressed it somehow, OR she is just as sick as he is.

That makes sense.

I don't even know what to say about this story, I'm so disturbed I'm without words.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #59 (permalink)
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What the shit, 15 years?!
Well, this is Europe we're talking about here. Not surprised. The government probably didn't want to seem cruel or unusual in its administration of punishment.

Yes, that was sarcasm.
Agree. If he's charged with MURDER due to a failure to act in relation to the dead baby, he could get....wait for it.....20 years. Most of Europe is this way, at least I know it is in the UK and the max sentence in the Scandinavian countries is also 20 years. Sorry but that's pathetic.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 11:50 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Depends on which Scandinavian country...SWeden has a life max of 16 years but you're in for a max of 9. The max is rarely given, by the way. Interestingly, Scandinavia has a very low crime rate which gives one food for thought about crime and punishment.
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