Girl draws on desk, ends up in handcuffs

[twitchy2.0]

And the lesson learned is that authority figures are overly harsh and on a power trip.

[sputnik]

no, twitchy. the lesson learned is that today's children are feral and out of control because they get time-outs instead of beatings and because they dress like prostitutes from a young age and have myspace pages. we should all long for the good old days when the world was all puppies and picnic baskets and harsh parental discipline and everyone walked 20 miles barefoot in the snow to get to school and no one ever doodled on desks.

[bellini]

Nope, never doodled on a desk. I went to Catholic schools and there was no way you'd do something like that.

I went to Catholic school for eight years. Everyone doodled on their desks. Especially in that depression thingy where you put your pens and pencils. If you got caught doing it, of course you'd get a detention. But handcuffs? No even the sadistic nuns who taught my school wouldn't go that far.

[Charmed Hour]

who said anything about letting her get away with it? why is the fascist biddy brigade convinced that the alternative to excessive use of force is always to do nothing? so now the alternatives to child discipline are either 'do nothing' or 'have them arrested and hauled off by the cops'? that's ridiculous.
so which is it, do you agree with the cuffing or not? you seemed fine with it a couple of posts ago since she 'learned her lesson' but now you think some discipline would be enough?

I said it was harsh to have cuffed her, meaning I did not agree with it, but that she did indeed learn her lesson. She knew what she did was wrong and against school rules, yet she did it anyway. She showed a lack of respect for authority and other's property.

I'm not a member of some "facist brigade", however, I do think schools have lost control (and parents too). I don't advocate going back to corpoeral punishment in schools. I certainly don't agree with little kids being arrested, either. But there has to be some happy medium achieved.

[Grimmlok]

Yeah, like cleaning desks in detention. A punishment that fits the crime.

Why are people so fucking retarded these days. It's either do nothing at all, or practically shoot them in the face.

Does anybody have any common sense left?

[sputnik]

She knew what she did was wrong and against school rules, yet she did it anyway. She showed a lack of respect for authority and other's property.

yes. but she doodled on a desk. in the grand scheme of things and given that teenage years are the time when it's normal to show a lack of respect for authority and other's property (and that doesn't mean i don't think they souldn't be disciplined), it's really not a big deal. at all. in fact, if you can raise a kid and the worst thing they ever do at that age is doodle on a desk, you're doing a pretty good job. i mean, didn't you ever act out as a teenager? maybe i'm crazy but i'm more creeped out by teenagers who always respect authority and never rebel at all than i am by kids who do the same kind of thing as this girl.

[Lalique]

So, Charmed...what should schools do about serious offenses? Capital punishment?

[Charmed Hour]

yes. but she doodled on a desk. in the grand scheme of things and given that teenage years are the time when it's normal to show a lack of respect for authority and other's property (and that doesn't mean i don't think they souldn't be disciplined), it's really not a big deal. at all. in fact, if you can raise a kid and the worst thing they ever do at that age is doodle on a desk, you're doing a pretty good job. i mean, didn't you ever act out as a teenager? maybe i'm crazy but i'm more creeped out by teenagers who always respect authority and never rebel at all than i am by kids who do the same kind of thing as this girl.

I was a pretty good kid for a few reasons, most importantly, my parents would have whipped my as and that was enough of a deterrent to think twice about most things.



I drank and smoked and missed curfew and the punishment for all those things was an ass whipping and major punishment. Oh, and my mom would come looking for you which was worst of all. That's embarassment.

I also was throw out of my first high school for fighting, when I didn't even have the chance to throw a single punch. Don't ask what my parents did about that one.

So, Charmed...what should schools do about serious offenses? Capital punishment?

What do you consider a serious offence? For me, that's brining a weapon to school, causing bodily harm, etc. Kids should be arrested for those types of things. Same way they would be out on the street.

[kingcap72]

The educational system is rotting away, and more kids are bringing weapons to school, and kids are being arrested for...doodling on desks? No wonder kids are falling behind in reading and math, the people responsible for educating them are dumbasses.

[stef]

This is so absurd you have to wonder if it really happened.

seriously!
handcuffing a 12-year-old for... doodling? is this a joke? are you fucking kidding me?

[Ravenna]

A teacher caught me writing on a desk once. He kicked the desk and yelled at me. I thought that was an overreaction.

[visitor42]

who said anything about letting her get away with it? why is the fascist biddy brigade convinced that the alternative to excessive use of force is always to do nothing? so now the alternatives to child discipline are either 'do nothing' or 'have them arrested and hauled off by the cops'? that's ridiculous.
so which is it, do you agree with the cuffing or not? you seemed fine with it a couple of posts ago since she 'learned her lesson' but now you think some discipline would be enough?

Word.