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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post

    It's a crazy business, full of crazy people.
    I have to admit you make a very compelling case. To me, what still seems unique to about Charney, as opposed to the other examples you cite, is that Charney is known outside the apparel business for his behavior. And that his behavior is kind of in synch with the porno style of his clothing ads. And not only that, he not only doesn't try to hide all the stories of his crazy behavior, it seems like he kind of considers it another way of marketing his company and its overall culture. He has media analysts ranting about him constantly

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    Exactly, he's a perv with no talent, going by his clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I have to admit you make a very compelling case. To me, what still seems unique to about Charney, as opposed to the other examples you cite, is that Charney is known outside the apparel business for his behavior. And that his behavior is kind of in synch with the porno style of his clothing ads. And not only that, he not only doesn't try to hide all the stories of his crazy behavior, it seems like he kind of considers it another way of marketing his company and its overall culture. He has media analysts ranting about him constantly

    He reminds me of a young Al Goldstein (from Screw magazine), I just always got that vibe off him
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    I really like simple jersey knit separates, so I bought two A-line skirts from AA. They're both the same size according to their labels, but one is clearly smaller than the other, and the waistband started ripping away from one of the skirt panels within a few days of purchase.

    And these weren't cheap items, either.

    I don't care who works in the stores, but I expect expensive jersey items to be properly constructed.

    So maybe other shoppers came to the same conclusion.
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    There's a AA store in the downtown where I live at. I do have a couple of their v-neck shirts, but I did feel like the whole shopping expereince was...kinda off. Almost like the people that work there were dazed or high or something. I dunno.

    Judging by the creep in the pic, maybe AA has stashes of pot and LSD lined in the back part of the stores. They should market it and I'll be there in a heartbeat.

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    i don't doubt for a second this guy is an asshole, and i think it's totally wrong of him to want to fire the uglier employees, but i guess i am in the minority who doesn't mind the AA ads. yes, they're risqué, yes, they may be slightly porny. but i like that the models aren't generic, silicone-enhanced barbies. some of them can't even be called traditionally good looking.
    and sure, they're suggestive but they always skirt the line. maybe i'm just not bothered by sexually suggestive ads. they remind me of those calvin klein ads in the early 90s - the models looked very young and people started the typical 'child porn!' accusations even though none of the models were underage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    i don't doubt for a second this guy is an asshole, and i think it's totally wrong of him to want to fire the uglier employees, but i guess i am in the minority who doesn't mind the AA ads. yes, they're risqué, yes, they may be slightly porny. but i like that the models aren't generic, silicone-enhanced barbies. some of them can't even be called traditionally good looking.
    and sure, they're suggestive but they always skirt the line. maybe i'm just not bothered by sexually suggestive ads. they remind me of those calvin klein ads in the early 90s - the models looked very young and people started the typical 'child porn!' accusations even though none of the models were underage.
    Man, I remember some of those Calvin Klein ads. The ones that I thought REALLY got him in trouble, and that Calvin Klein yanked right away, were the ones where you had some nervous-looking teenage boy shirtless in Calvin Klein jeans in some guy's basement. And there is this gravelly voiced older guy in the background telling him which way to turn and how to pose.

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    selfridges is an actual name of a company? lol
    another year i claim of total indifference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    i don't doubt for a second this guy is an asshole, and i think it's totally wrong of him to want to fire the uglier employees, but i guess i am in the minority who doesn't mind the AA ads. yes, they're risqué, yes, they may be slightly porny. but i like that the models aren't generic, silicone-enhanced barbies. some of them can't even be called traditionally good looking.
    and sure, they're suggestive but they always skirt the line. maybe i'm just not bothered by sexually suggestive ads. they remind me of those calvin klein ads in the early 90s - the models looked very young and people started the typical 'child porn!' accusations even though none of the models were underage.
    i agree on both of your points...the ads don't bug me, but that dov guy comes across as quite assholish & creepy.

    there was a great weekend update skit on SNL with fred armisen playing him, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder&lightning View Post
    selfridges is an actual name of a company? lol
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    We don't really seem to have AA ads over here.... We'd probably think they were rather tame considering what Bennetton did in the 80s...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    Didn't the middle aged, tweaked and facepulled abercrombie owner do this as well
    Yup, I remembered when that happened. I think he was more into only having white kids at his stores though.

    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I have to admit you make a very compelling case. To me, what still seems unique to about Charney, as opposed to the other examples you cite, is that Charney is known outside the apparel business for his behavior. And that his behavior is kind of in synch with the porno style of his clothing ads. And not only that, he not only doesn't try to hide all the stories of his crazy behavior, it seems like he kind of considers it another way of marketing his company and its overall culture. He has media analysts ranting about him constantly
    I recall when they made one of the staff writers at Jane magazine go to work for this guy and do a story on him. It was a funny read, but basically she found out from people he'd openly hit on employees and expose himself.

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    American Apparel ousts CEO; source says Dov Charney 'will fight like hell'Â*-Â*Los Angeles Times

    American Apparel ousts CEO; source says Dov Charney 'will fight like hell'


    Founder Dov Charney in American Apparel's downtown L.A. factory in 2012. (Gary Friedman / Los Angeles Times)

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    'We take no joy in this, but the board felt it was the right thing to do' -Allan Mayer on Dov Charney's ouster

    Dov Charney, the controversial CEO of American Apparel, was ousted Wednesday by the company's board of directors, who said the action “grew out of an ongoing investigation into alleged misconduct.”

    The board voted to replace Charney as chairman and “notified him of its intent to terminate his employment as President and CEO for cause,” according to a statement.

    “This is not easy, but we felt the need to do what we did for the sake of the company,” Allan Mayer, the company’s newly-appointed co-chairman, told The Times. “Our decision to do what we did was not the result of any problems with the company’s operations.”

    The termination is a dramatic turn for Charney, who has been dogged by lawsuits and allegations of misconduct for years, but has always served as the public face of the Los Angeles retailer. When reached by phone by a Times reporter, Charney hung up. Mayer said the board launched an investigation earlier this year after “new information came to light.”
    Charney’s behavior problems did not appear to be criminal in nature, but involved his personal conduct with women and poor judgement, said a source familiar with the matter.

    Mayer said he expects some critics to question why the board didn’t act sooner. But Mayer said, “a board can’t make decisions on the basis of rumors and stories in newspapers.”

    The board voted unanimously to terminate Charney on Wednesday after its annual meeting, the source said.
    “He was totally taken by surprise, which is part of the problem,” the source said. “He’s going to fight like hell to get this company back, but he won’t succeed."

    Charney’s firing comes at a precarious time for American Apparel, which has been fighting to lift sales after years of lackluster performance and debt. The company said the move may trigger a default under its credit agreements, and it will talk with lenders about its obligations.


    In 2013, American Apparel reported a net loss of $106.3 million, compared to a loss of $37.3 million in 2012. Facing a cash shortfall, the retailer in March announced plans to sell $30.5 million of stock to meet debt payments.

    “We take no joy in this, but the board felt it was the right thing to do,” Mayer said in the statement. “Dov Charney created American Apparel, but the company has grown much larger than any one individual and we are confident that its greatest days are still ahead.”

    Charney, 45, was born in Montreal and attended Tufts University where he ran American Apparel out of his dorm room. He moved the business to Los Angeles in 1997. American Apparel began as a wholesale brand and expanded in 2003 into the retail market.

    In his battles with those who accused him sexual harassment, he previously had been publicly backed by the company.

    In 2011, American Apparel lashed out when four female former employees filed a sexual harassment suit. At the time, the company told The Times that the four women were friends who were colluding to "shake down" Charney and the company for money and that it had "voluminous evidence" to prove that the allegations were false.

    In 2012, Charney was accused in a wrongful termination suit of choking and rubbing dirt in the face of a former store manager in Malibu. Charney also was accused of calling the employee "a wannabe Jew" and a "fag" and asked if he was sleeping with a certain girl. The company denied the allegations.
    He has also become a well-known advocate for the Made in the U.S.A. movement and for immigration reform. American Apparel’s clothing is manufactured out of a factory in downtown Los Angeles, and he has emphasized that the company is "sweatshop-free."

    Still, in recent years, the company has had to remove a third of its workforce after employees were found without required documentation. And its ads, some shot by Charney, have raised eyebrows or racy themes in public locations.

    This year American Apparel has fought to retain its listing on the New York Stock Exchange while buried in negotiations over financing -- efforts that the retailer said would force it to file its annual report late.
    According to the release regarding Charney's ouster, American Apparel has about 10,000 employees and retail stores in 20 countries.

    Board members said Wednesday that they planned to work with a search firm to identify a permanent chief executive.

    Times staff writer Megan Garvey contributed to this report
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    I went in one of these stores back in April and laughed my ass off at every stitch of clothing in there.
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    ^^^^
    agree for the most part but i love their underwear. the heart-shape panties are the best.
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    Disgraced American Apparel CEO dances naked in front of employees (WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT!)

    Published time: June 20, 2014 15:27
    Edited time: June 20, 2014 17:53

    Still from Vidd.me video

    Following the unexpected firing of American Apparel CEO Dov Charney, video of the executive dancing naked in front of what could be two employees has gone viral on the internet.

    Charney’s termination came amid turbulent times for the company’s bottom line as well as numerous allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct on the part of the CEO. Although the video was originally posted on a site called Viddme around two months ago, that falls into the roughly the same time period that American Apparel’s board began thinking about pushing the controversial executive out.

    According to the New York Times, the board started “seriously considering” the idea of firing Charney six weeks ago.

    In a statement, the company’s board said only that it chose to “terminate his employment as president and CEO for cause.”

    As reported by Gawker, which brought the nude video to light on Thursday, a former American Apparel model confirmed it was Charney dancing around, saying, “That is 100% him.”


    An ex-employee, meanwhile, stated the two women in the video either used to work for the company or are still employed there.

    “I worked for AA years ago,” the unnamed employee said. “That girl in the video used to be my boss. And the girl he's referring to, Daisy, also used to work with me. I think she still works for the co.”

    Charney’s exit may have come as a shock to some, but Ken Nisch of the retail branding firm JGA told USA Today that since American Apparel has been struggling to keep its line of basic clothing in demand, it’s not surprising that the board would become less tolerant of allegations of misconduct.

    Still from Viddme video

    Not only has the company’s stock price plummeted from its peak back in 2007, but last year saw it suffer from $106.3 million in operating losses.

    "What they have is a tired concept," Nisch said. "I imagine (the board comes) to the conclusion, saying, 'He's not delivering a plan to move us forward, and we've got all these liabilities around us .. .so why are we putting up with all these liabilities when we're not seeing a clear path to the next chapter?' "

    While company performance is one issue, others include the controversy Charney has attracted for using extremely sexual advertisements featuring young women – sometimes employees or even porn stars – with barely any clothing on. In some cases, the ads portrayed women in their underwear with men and posing very suggestively.

    The most damaging black marks on his record, though, involve the numerous sexual harassment charges he’s been involved in since the company went public in 2007. As noted by USA Today, a former employee accused him of sexually assaulting her during what was billed as a job interview in 2010. Charney allegedly “violently kissed her” and "forced her to perform various sexual acts." If she resisted, the lawsuit stated he became "more aggressive and violent."

    Three other employees were a part of the lawsuit, claiming separately that the CEO forced them to sign documents intended to "keep employees from disclosing unlawful conduct" by the company and to push the women "into an unfair forum."

    Allegations of sexual harassment dated back to even before American Apparel went public. According to the New York Times, three ex-workers filed a lawsuit against Charney in 2005, claiming the workplace under him was unsafe and that women were forced to endure sexual misconduct and innuendo.


    In 2010, after a complaint was filed with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in Los Angeles four years earlier, the organization found American Apparel discriminated against “women, as a class, on the basis of their female gender, by subjecting them to sexual harassment.”

    In nearly all cases, the lawsuits were settled outside of court. The company said one case resulted in a plaintiff winning an "inconsequential amount."






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    cio 21.06.2014 07:32

    LOL!! Look at him bounce.....



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