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    Quote Originally Posted by effie2 View Post
    If they starve how come they shit so much?Now,i get you are on a cruise and supposed to be pampered but this is not normal,people should look after themselves and at least not leave their waste outside for the crew to pick up.Also there is plenty of sea water around to rinse pots and shit for fucks sake.
    Effie! They can't just reach out and scoop up sea water! That ship is very high in the water.
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    Befouled cruise ship scheduled for Thursday docking


    By Mark Morgenstein. Ben Brumfield and Mike Pearson, CNN

    updated 11:11 AM EST, Wed February 13, 2013

    (CNN) -- Kim McKerreghan stood in the dark at dockside in the Port of Mobile early Wednesday, worried sick about her 10-year-old daughter and her ex-husband, both passengers on the distressed cruise ship being towed there.

    Her daughter, Allie Taylor, called her in a panic Sunday after a fire broke out in the Carnival Triumph's engine room.

    Automatic sprinklers extinguished the blaze but the flames paralyzed the ship's propulsion system, leaving it temporarily marooned in the Gulf of Mexico, subject to the whims of wind and sea currents.

    "Mommy, it's so scary," McKerreghan said her daughter told her. "I want to come home." McKerreghan fought back tears as she recalled the conversation. "Just come get me," her daughter begged her.

    The cell phone signal was bad, and they ended the call, leaving the mother from Lufkin, Texas, feeling helpless. "I wanted to have a meltdown," McKerreghan said. "I'm going to have that moment here," she told CNN's Victor Blackwell at the Alabama port.

    Two tug boats are dragging the nearly 900-foot, 14-story Triumph at a jogger's pace to the harbor, where Carnival hopes to return 3,143 passengers and 1,086 crew members to freedom on Thursday, the cruise line said.

    The convoy was approximately 160 nautical miles from port around 9 a.m. Wednesday, on track to arrive at the Mobile dock approximately between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. Thursday, according to an official briefed on plans for the recovery of the ship.

    The Triumph is expected to navigate the "safety fairway," or the corridor into Mobile Bay, late Wednesday night, bringing it, around 8 a.m. Thursday, to the point where a pilot from the Port of Mobile will board the ship and guide it to dock, the same official told CNN.

    Mobile Infirmary Health Services has offered to set up a triage unit at the port, in case any debarking passengers need medical assistance, Alabama Cruise Terminal General Manager Sheila Gurganus said Tuesday.

    Then, after what Gurganus predicted would be "easy access out the door of customs with your luggage," Carnival will try to take care of its passengers on land.

    The cruise line has reserved more than 1,500 hotel rooms in Mobile and New Orleans, about a two-hour drive away, for Thursday night. In addition, Carnival has arranged for more than 20 chartered flights on Friday to ferry the stranded vacationers to Houston, the closest major city to the cruise's origination point, Carnival President Gerald Cahill has said.

    Unsanitary conditions

    The cruise ship left Galveston, Texas, for a Caribbean tour last week and was scheduled to arrive back there Monday.

    That day, McKerreghan's ex-husband, stranded at sea, phoned to say the sanitary situation had already begun to deteriorate on board the Triumph.

    "He said that the conditions have gotten so bad that they're asking them to use the restroom in bags, and they were eating onion sandwiches," McKerreghan said.

    The call was the last she has heard from them.

    Much of the ship's electrical power went down in the fire, causing widespread malfunctions, including taking out sanitary systems.

    Passengers have reported sewage sloshing around in hallways, flooded rooms and trouble getting enough to eat.

    "It's disgusting. It's the worst thing ever," passenger Ann Barlow told CNN.

    "From what I understand, they're walking around in a lot of urine and fecal matter, and the sewers are backing up," McKerreghan said. Her doctor gave her antibiotics to give her daughter as soon as she gets on land. A checkup will follow as soon as possible.

    Passenger Jet Hilton from Crawfordsville, Indiana, has relied on her sense of humor to get through the ordeal, her sister Jennifer Stanfield told CNN affiliate WTHR.

    Four thousand people on a stranded ship can't flush, Hilton jokingly messaged Stanfield to vent about the stench on board.

    Carnival has said that most of the Triumph's 23 public restrooms and some others are working. But with the large number of people on board, they will at least have to stand in line.

    Other inconveniences

    Hilton stood in line for three hours waiting for something to eat, her sister said.

    "People ahead of her hoarded food," Stanfield said. "By the time she got up there, all she could get was a hamburger and some waters."

    Hilton and 20 of her girlfriends booked the cruise to celebrate one of their birthdays.

    She is a former cheerleader, Stanfield said, and is doing what she can to keep her group's spirits up.

    The fire also cut power to air conditioning, and the ship is very hot, Stanfield said. Passengers are flocking to the deck for fresher, cooler air.

    The crew has higher priorities to fulfill than cooling cabins with what electricity the ship does have.

    "They have to make sure there's adequate power to keep the ship from sinking or burning further," said Dr. Richard Burke from the University of New York Maritime College.

    The fire also knocked out the ship's stabilization system, causing it to list, Burke said.

    "There's time when the ship is leaning pretty hard, and you're worried you'll flip," said passenger Donna Gutzman.

    Bad luck before

    The fire is at least the second problem for the ship since late January, when it had an issue with its propulsion system, according to a notice posted on the website of Carnival senior cruise director John Heald.

    In 2010, the Carnival cruise ship Splendor lost power after an engine room fire, leaving it drifting off the Pacific coast of Mexico. The USS Ronald Reagan ferried 60,000 pounds of supplies for the ship's passengers and crew as the ship was towed to San Diego.

    The cruise company apologized for the current conditions on board the Triumph and said it was using its full resources to help the passengers.

    "No one here at Carnival is happy about conditions on board the ship," said Carnival CEO Gerry Cahill Tuesday. "We are very sorry about what is taking place."

    Damage control

    Passengers will get a free flight home, a full refund for their trip and for most expenses on board, as well as a credit for another cruise, Carnival said.

    The Coast Guard and the National Transportation Safety Board launched an investigation into the cause of the engine room fire. Because the Carnival Triumph is a Bahamian-flagged vessel, the Bahamas Maritime Authority is the primary investigative agency.

    McKerreghan drove over from Texas together with a friend, Mary Poret, whose 12-year-old daughter Rebekah is on board, with Poret's ex-husband.

    Poret also received a frightening call from her daughter after the fire and feared they may never see each other again. "I will grab her, hold her in my arms and not want to let go," she said.

    Though the ship is not expected to arrive until after noon Thursday, they don't mind the wait. They'd rather be a day early than two minutes late.

    CNN's Chandler Friedman, Victor Blackwell, Tristan Smith, Joe Sutton, Mike Ahlers, Dave Alsup, Sandra Endo, Chuck Johnston, Esprit Smith, Greg Botelho and Marnie Hunter contributed to this report.
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    I ve been on a huge cruise ship 12 decks up and 4 swimming pools too.they can pump water manually and use it ,they have the means to do it,i didnt think they.ll bend over and scoop it up with a pan or a glass.God that makes me so angry,i dont even know why!
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    Ok, I get it now. The sewage system backed up and flooded the hallways with waste. Good god.
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    Jesus, that would really suck. This would be my luck if I went on a cruise.

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    Oh silly Carnival, now do you see what happens when you screw Mobile over? You end up pumping a fuckton of money back into our tourism industry when your raggedy ship fails and you need us. While we feel for the passengers (I could not fucking begin to imagine!), Mobilians are fixed with a smug smile on their face about this shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    If this wasn't the Cruise from Hell, I'm not sure what was. At least the passengers on the Titanic had lights up until the last minute. NBC News also reported last night that due to there being no power, the boat is rocking around like crazy because the stabilization system doesn't work. I guess that's making everybody even sicker. And people are shitting into baggies and leaving them outside their doors. Who says being a crew member isn't glamorous ("yes, I'm on baggie duty tonight......")?
    Especially on one of those top-heavy shoe boxes...they are only stable in calm weather anyway and have a very high center of gravity.

    I took the Carnival Victory to the Canadian Maritimes ages ago, right before 9/11. The ship itself wasn't too bad, and actually had some pretty public rooms. But they watered down the drinks, did everything they could to suck the money out of your pocket and the cruise staff suffered from burnout. And the crowd that it attracted - some of the tackiest people I've ever seen. And they treat the crew like shit - there is a reason that their ships are registered in foreign countries - that way they can hire whomever that want and pay them the lowest wages possible. A lot of folks from the Third World work on cruise ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    Remember, you don't have any running water to rinse out the pots, so I think there would be a residual smell no matter what. And once kids enter the equation, all bets are off.



    Not even a SCATter diagram???
    A world of no!
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    I'm not surprised at people and their bathroom habits. Have you ever seen a gas station bathroom or a restroom at a fast-food place? People are filthy. The plumbing is shot, the air is broken, people that are in the lower cabins have moved mattresses to the decks because it's so hot and the stinky sewage has backed up the hallways and is running down to the lower levels. There is little running water and the water that is running isn't safe to drink. They already ran out of food and had to have a Coast Guard ship deliver more supplies. I would be furious if I had to live like this for a day. Sorry, I guess I'm just a spoiled princess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nancydrew View Post
    Oh silly Carnival, now do you see what happens when you screw Mobile over? You end up pumping a fuckton of money back into our tourism industry when your raggedy ship fails and you need us. While we feel for the passengers (I could not fucking begin to imagine!), Mobilians are fixed with a smug smile on their face about this shit.
    Otherwise known as "thanks for filling the hotels back up when they're usually empty in the days after Fat Tuesday."
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    Quote Originally Posted by effie2 View Post
    I ve been on a huge cruise ship 12 decks up and 4 swimming pools too.they can pump water manually and use it ,they have the means to do it,i didnt think they.ll bend over and scoop it up with a pan or a glass.God that makes me so angry,i dont even know why!
    Effie! I am so sorry, I did not mean to make you angry, I have not been on a crisise ship in many years! Dumb me!!!
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    Yikes I can't imagine a rocking boat filled to the brim with piss and shit. I don't understand why they can't get another ship that's empty to transfer the passengers out of that drifting hellhole. Carnival is cheap but they can't be THAT cheap can they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Authority View Post
    Yikes I can't imagine a rocking boat filled to the brim with piss and shit. I don't understand why they can't get another ship that's empty to transfer the passengers out of that drifting hellhole. Carnival is cheap but they can't be THAT cheap can they?
    And they'll probably get even cheaper (in terms of cutting back) after all the lawsuits are settled (and believe me, there will be lawsuits on this).

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    My husband has a theory about how public restrooms get so dirty. All it takes is one person to piss or shit on the toilet or floor, and every person after that is forced to stand/squat (whatever) farther and farther away from the toilet. So imagine that the feces is coming out of the toilet, the next person in is going to want to stand far back to do their business. Even if it is only urine it will mix in and spread all over the floor. Ugh.

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    ^^That's pretty true. I can tell you that there would be no way in hell that I would slosh through someone else's shit or piss, or dare let my child slosh through it. I would be going in bags, too.
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