Barbie launch first black doll that is NOT just a painted version of white doll - Page 2

HWBL · October 10th, 2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kingcap72

And the Barbie's all have long hair, which will ensure that a new generation grows up to keep the weave companies in business.

No kidding! And BLONDISH weaves at that!

Rondette · October 10th, 2009, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Penny Lane

I had the brown Barbie when I was a kid.. I think her name was Teresa. Some bitch in my kindergarten class told me that wasn't a real Barbie and I think I cried for a week. I kind of hated my brown-ness for a while.

eta: hehe, I just remembered when I came home crying my mom asked me what was wrong and I told her and she told me her mom wasn't a real Barbie either judging by her roots. I told her the next day and got in trouble and had to eat my snack alone.. but it did piss the little girl off

haha, your mum sounds awesome!!

Karistiona · October 10th, 2009, 06:55 AM

Penny that's a cute story too! I loved Barbies when I was little, I had loads of them, but I don't think that Barbie should really be blamed for piss-poor self image in teen/adulthood. Surely those values should come from parents rather than a doll.

Algernon · October 10th, 2009, 08:26 AM

^^^of course a doll alone isn't going to cause poor body image. But add Barbie to a culture whose media worships thinness, fake boobies, bleached hair and impossible standards, along with many other subtle societal factors, and suddenly this doll seems horrible.

I remember being fascinated by Barbie's 'perfect' body as a very young girl. And I have also always been self conscious about my lack of a tiny waist and boyish body. I think for me, even in a small way, there was a connection, even if my parents told me I was perfect and gorgeous.

B.C. · October 10th, 2009, 09:57 AM

I never had a real Barbie, couldn't afford one.
I had a cheap dime store knock off. Anyone feeling sorry for me?

Algernon · October 10th, 2009, 10:16 AM

^lol, I only had hand me downs, usually with the hair cut off.

Those dime store knock off barbies looked like cheap hookers! Thier makeup was more garish and thier hair looked over-processed!!!

WhateverLolaWants · October 10th, 2009, 03:05 PM

I never thought I was going to look like my barbie. My favorite was a brunette with olive skin, the opposite of me, but in my mind she was a beautiful italian woman who lived in wine country and ate pesto, lol

I never hated myself for not looking like her. I never thought about it in those terms. She was my friend to play with, not a persona to replace me.

I don't know...I think ALL the princess shit (Princess lamps, board games, everything possible) is more harmful because most of those disney princesses did nothing in their movies but get married and/or rescued. They DO have personalities and their personalities are primarily victims.

Cinderella? Tortured by her stepsisters and stepmother until Godmother and Prince save her.

Sleeping Beauty? Had to hide out in the woods and then was put under a spell until, yes, a prince saved her.

Jasmine? Saved from Jafar by a prince, with the once exception that she helped out the prince a little by using her SEXUAL WILES to distract him.

Snow White? Saved by a prince.

Ariel? Saved by a prince.

Belle, Mulan and (although somewhat laughably)Pocahontas are the only ones that come to mind that didn't fall into this groove though they were all still saved by the dudes at some point in the story. The also all got married ridiculously young.

A doll without a given personality can be whatever you want her to be. Having everything around your child inspire her to be like a disney princess just means she will grow up wanting to find her true love, be rescued by him, and be married at 16.

Algernon · October 10th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Lola, you make a really good point, comparing Barbie and the Disney princess crap. I agree Barbie is the lesser of the evils there. But I still maintain that for many young girls she adds to the growing stockpile of ridiculous standards.

Little girls will play with whatever toys we make and market toward them. If we made real-looking women dolls, and marketed them as fierce, independent, movers and shakers, little girls would love them just as much as playboy bunny looking Barbies. Some little girls will take a Barbie and use her imagination, and still maintain a strong sense of self, stay grounded in reality because she has great role models. Some little girls who don't have that strong sense of self, or who lack active imaginations, will play with Barbie and aspire to be that plastic 'perfect' woman. Just my opinion.

I truly wish that the makers of toys for little girls would come up with something more inspiring, that's all. Barbie Sucks.

WhateverLolaWants · October 10th, 2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Algernon

Little girls will play with whatever toys we make and market toward them. If we made real-looking women dolls, and marketed them as fierce, independent, movers and shakers, little girls would love them just as much as playboy bunny looking Barbies. Some little girls will take a Barbie and use her imagination, and still maintain a strong sense of self, stay grounded in reality because she has great role models. Some little girls who don't have that strong sense of self, or who lack active imaginations, will play with Barbie and aspire to be that plastic 'perfect' woman. Just my opinion.

I definitely agree that there is NO reason for the 'boobie' barbie...and yet she is still the norm. What's up with that?

*DIVA! · October 10th, 2009, 07:37 PM

People put too much in dolls. Just like fat ass moms-all have their daughters in cheer or pageants...

Karistiona · October 10th, 2009, 08:59 PM

Lola you make a really good point about the Disney Princesses, I hadn't thought about that before. I knew there was a reason Jasmine was my favourite, she was the slutty one

oltifreakinbaby · October 11th, 2009, 11:08 PM

I loved Barbies when I was little. To tell you the truth, my sister doesn't really play with them. I don't think they ever gave me any self esteem issues. Probably because all of my Barbies were sluts and slept with their friends' Ken dolls.

ur_next_ex · October 12th, 2009, 09:33 AM

Maybe having the new black barbies will keep the little girls from morphing into the thick ba-dunka-dunk booty shakers most (some) of their mammas have become.

B.C. · October 12th, 2009, 01:07 PM

*popping the corn*

ang · October 12th, 2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ur_next_ex

Maybe having the new black barbies will keep the little girls from morphing into the thick ba-dunka-dunk booty shakers most (some) of their mammas have become.

you are such an asshole. and, your posts suck. seriously, fuck off.

*waits patiently for my first mod slap on the wrist*