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Old November 18th, 2008, 08:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Casey (19) and Brittney (17) Engstrom of Hubbard are not permitted to go to her school dances together.





By John W. Goodwin Jr.
HUBBARD — Five pieces of facial jewelry may be all that is stopping a high school senior from attending any school dances with the 19-year-old man she recently married.
Casey Engstrom, 19, graduated from Hubbard High School in 2007. He has since married Brittany, 17, who is still a senior at the high school. The young couple now lives a stone’s throw away from the high school with Casey Engstrom’s grandmother, but Casey Engstrom will not be permitted to attend any school dances with his new wife. Casey Engstrom has been informed that he is banned from such school functions because of skin-stretching jewelry in his lip and ears.
Though Casey Engstrom, who also is his wife’s guardian because she is still a minor, discussed the couple’s feelings about the school’s decision, Brittany Engstrom chose not to speak to The Vindicator and deferred comment to her husband.
Casey Engstrom said the recent ban from school dances is not the first time his appearance has been called into question by school officials. He said he was forced to remove red streaks and highlights from his hair before attending his own graduation in 2007.
Brittany Engstrom “wondered how things were going to work out now this year with homecoming, prom and Hubbard’s strict dress code,” Casey Engstrom said.

The dress code in the student handbook states that “wearing pierced jewelry on any other body part than the ear, such as nose, eyebrows, lips and tongue are not permitted.”
Casey Engstrom, though no longer bound by the student dress code, spoke to school officials to see if an understanding could be reached on the jewelry that would allow him to escort his wife to the school dances. He offered to remove the jewelry.
Superintendent Richard Buchenic said Brittany Engstrom approached school officials earlier in the year to see if her husband could escort her to school dances and functions.
Buchenic said the school will stand firm on its decision not to allow Casey Engstrom to attend any school dances because of health reasons.
The skin-stretching pieces would leave an open hole in the lip if removed, and removing the jewelry “was not acceptable because fluids could still come out, and I do not want to subject our students to those fluids,” he said.
Buchenic said students or any other person would be held to the same standard being imposed on the Engstroms. He said Casey Engstrom will not be permitted to attend those school functions even if the hole in his lip is completely plugged.

Buchenic said the school will uphold its obligation to provide Brittany Engstrom with an education but is not obligated to allow her to attend dances with any particular escort.
“She chose to get married, so this is her decision. Going to dances is a privilege, not a right,” Buchenic said. “She could still attend [the dances] with friends.”
Casey Engstrom said Buchenic, during their meeting, defined him as living an “alternative” lifestyle.
“That offended me,” he said. “I live with my wife and two cats. How alternative is my lifestyle?”
Casey Engstrom has two piercings and a stretching piece in his lip as well as skin-stretching pieces in both ears. Casey Engstrom, who considers himself a “humanist” religiously, said there are religious aspects to the practice.
“I stretched my lip because I always thought it to be an interesting thing to see on a person. Once I tried it, I discovered it requires discipline. I like the discipline,” he said.
“This practice has been done worldwide. It’s outrageous that it’s still being discriminated against.”

Piercings keep husband of student out of dances - Vindy.com News - Local & Regional News - Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana, Ohio
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Old November 18th, 2008, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How absurd. He offered to remove his piercings but he's still not allowed because of "fluids"?! That Buchenic guy seriously just sounds like an ass.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 09:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Eeewwwwww. Dude wants to go to the prom with a hole on his lip. And religious reasons, my ass.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah, he just gets off on being a weirdo. And maybe has at least a small punishment/discipline fetish. As for not getting to hang with the kiddies...well, that's what happens when you marry a child. (Or you get older but your friends stay the same age) Adding a dose of the weird doesn't help your cause. There's already enough skeeviness here even if he chose a more nondescript appearance.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It can't be that skeevy; he's 19 and she's 17. This isn't the 21 year old guy with the 16 year old getting mauled by a declawed cougar.

I still wonder why they're married so damned young.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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^Being your wife's legal guardian is skeevy and gross any way you want to look at it.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, he just gets off on being a weirdo. And maybe has at least a small punishment/discipline fetish. As for not getting to hang with the kiddies...well, that's what happens when you marry a child. (Or you get older but your friends stay the same age) Adding a dose of the weird doesn't help your cause. There's already enough skeeviness here even if he chose a more nondescript appearance.
how is it skeevy? he's 19 and graduated last year. she's 17. the legal guardianship bit is just what happens when someone who is technically an adult (i refuse to call a 19 year-old a real adult) marries someone who is technically a child (i also refuse to call a 17 year-old a child)
that said, he sounds like an idiot. someone should tell him humanism isn't a religion, and even if it were piercings wouldn't be one of the requirements.
the douche at the school sounds like a total asshole. that bit about the fluids shows how ignorant he is. and it sounds more like he's punishing her for getting married than anything else. and yeah, she's a moron for getting married at that age but it's not the school's place to judge her for it.

so really, these people are all morons.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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^Being your wife's legal guardian is skeevy and gross any way you want to look at it.
Yeah but I'm sure it's just some kind of technicality. There are tons of interesting circumstances; I wonder what home was like for her. I was my sister's legal guardian when she was 15 but that's different.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 10:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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i'm glad i didn't go to that school...forced to remove red streaks from his hair before graduating? that's ridiculous. i hate stupid rules like that.
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Old November 18th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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how is it skeevy? he's 19 and graduated last year. she's 17. the legal guardianship bit is just what happens when someone who is technically an adult (i refuse to call a 19 year-old a real adult) marries someone who is technically a child (i also refuse to call a 17 year-old a child)
that said, he sounds like an idiot. someone should tell him humanism isn't a religion, and even if it were piercings wouldn't be one of the requirements.
the douche at the school sounds like a total asshole. that bit about the fluids shows how ignorant he is. and it sounds more like he's punishing her for getting married than anything else. and yeah, she's a moron for getting married at that age but it's not the school's place to judge her for it.

so really, these people are all morons.
I agree with you... They also look really happy in the picture. At least they are finishing high school and didn't get married because she was pregnant. My parents will be married for 50 years this year... They ran away and eloped when they were teens. They still do everything together.
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ick, little emo douchebag. he should also be banned for his hair-do.

i hate emo's. i always get the urge to slap the little fashion victims. so non-conformist.
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^Being your wife's legal guardian is skeevy and gross any way you want to look at it.
I agree. I have no problem with the fact that a 19 year old is married to a 17 year old. But come on. High school is still kid world. Marriage, grown up world. Wanna be a grown up? Time to shelve some childhood things. Like you couldn't wait a year to marry your schoolgirl, Elvis.

As for the guy with his ignorant panties in a twist over the "juice" form a piercing hole, of course it's stupid too, for another reason. But that doesn't cancel out the other kind of stupid existing here.

BTW....and not that we'll probably ever find out if I'm right, but I have been proven good at this....I'm giving them 3.2 years.
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I agree with you... They also look really happy in the picture. At least they are finishing high school and didn't get married because she was pregnant. My parents will be married for 50 years this year... They ran away and eloped when they were teens. They still do everything together.
Yeah but being a teen today isn't what it was 50 years ago. Both of my grandmothers were 17 when they married too. Grandads, 19 and 20. But they had been considered full grown adults with adult responsibilities for years before. They had bigger fish to fry (without yet any kids also) than even being in school, much less attending proms and breaking dress code rules.
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I think that this young man has actually acted a little more mature than the school principal - he approached them and offered a compromise to the situation, only to have it rejected out of hand on what are (IMHO) ridiculous grounds. I know of guys well into their twenties and thirties who would have started screaming the place down and kicking off big time like spoilt teenagers should they have been told that they couldn't go somewhere or do something, but this young man tried to approach it like an adult. And what's this junk about "fluids" escaping? Does this mean that all those in attendance must wear face masks in case a drop of spittle escapes while talking excitedly? Anyway, I'm sure that a lot more than a little saliva usually escapes as a result of prom night!

As for the guardianship thing, I think it makes sense - as her husband he needs to be notified should anything happen to her, but he can't be listed as her next of kin without the guardianship.

Whether you agree with them being married so young or not, they have chosen to take on adult roles and should have to accept the adult responsibilities that go with them. So far they seem to be doing ok - there's no baby on the way, she's finishing high school and they seem to be happy. In spite of usual cynical viewpoint I find myself wishing them well.
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Old November 19th, 2008, 04:14 AM   #15 (permalink)
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ick, little emo douchebag. he should also be banned for his hair-do.

i hate emo's. i always get the urge to slap the little fashion victims. so non-conformist.
Erm, I don't think he's emo. Emos aren't the only people who get facial piercings, you know.

Frankly, I think the superintendant is just being an obstinate pain in the ass. Casey offered to remove the piercings, and got denied because of some crap about "fluids". He offered to remove them but plug the hole, and still got denied. Meanwhile, the reasons for the ban flip from "dress code" to "health code" throughout the article.

As for the BS about how "any other person would be held to the same standard", I doubt that a parent or older sibling with a nose stud or some other facial piercing would be banned from school functions.
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