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    Default Florida Hospital deports Luis Jimenez

    The Deportation of Luis Jimenez | New York Times Video

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    After suffering a traumatic brain injury, Luis Alberto Jimenez was deported not by the federal government, but by a Florida hospital.
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    Do hospitals have the authority to do that

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    All US hospitals are obligated to do for someone without insurance or means of paying is to stabilize them until they can be transported to a charity hospital. That's it. They are probably within their rights to kick him out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheetopia View Post
    All US hospitals are obligated to do for someone without insurance or means of paying is to stabilize them until they can be transported to a charity hospital. That's it. They are probably within their rights to kick him out.
    Kick him out, yes. Deport him, no. Only the federal government deports people.

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    "Other hospitals are more aggressive, routinely sending uninsured immigrants, bothlegal and illegal, back to their homelands.One Tucson hospital even tried to fly an American citizen, a sick baby whose parents were illegal immigrants, to Mexico last year; the police, summoned by a lawyer to the airport, blocked the flight. “It was horrendous,” the mother said.

    Sister Margaret McBride, vice president for mission services at St. Joseph’s in Phoenix, which is part of Catholic Healthcare West, said families were rarely happy about the hospital’s decision to repatriate their relatives. But, she added, “We don’t require consent from the family.”

    In a case this spring that outraged Phoenix’s Hispanic community, St. Joseph’s planned to send a comatose, uninsured legal immigrant back to Honduras, until community leaders got lawyers involved. While they were negotiating with the hospital, the patient, Sonia del Cid Iscoa, 34, who has been in the United States for half her life and has seven American-born children, came out of her coma. She is now back in her Phoenix home."
    Long ass article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/us...nted=1&_r=1&em

    How can a hospital possibly deport a citizen or legal immigrant? That's just insane.
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    Doesn't sound insane-they took care of the illegal 2 years,spent way over a million bucks for someone who came here illegally,never bothered to learn the language (nor have his cousins in the US) spent 30 thousand more to send him to his own country in a private jet with a nurse. Seems like it was their turn-he is their citizen and a law breaker from day 1. Illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy View Post
    Do hospitals have the authority to do that
    I wondered about the jurisdictional and procedural aspects as well - I wondered about them apart from questions of whether it was the right or wrong thing to do since either way, these questions would arise. I was curious about what institutions can appropriate what is essentially a governmental function and who can assume this authority. Was it the hospital on its own authority and nothing else that initiated and completed "repatriation"? Was that okay because the hospital was receiving federal money to care for him? Was there any federal agency involved or safeguards for procedural due process, especially if a legalized person - a citizen - is repatriated?

    I'm also wondering if certain hospitals do it more than others, and why - is there a legal loophole in that state, or different ties to federal money?
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    May have had something to do with federal money.

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    While I feel bad for the patient and the struggles he will face in his future, I think that his country should take care of him.
    He recieved over a million dollars in care, the hospital willl likely never see a return on that money.
    The hospital tried to send him to different care facilities, nobody would take him without being paid.
    What was the hospital supposed to do? They couldn't keep caring for him until he died, and they couldn't just throw him out on the street.
    So, they paid for him to be returned to his own country, to let them take care of him. That seems right to me. We don't have free healthcare here.

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    Uhm, good. He should have been sent back as soon as he was stabilized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCkissesx View Post
    Uhm, good. He should have been sent back as soon as he was stabilized.
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    By the government. NOT by private entities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy View Post
    By the government. NOT by private entities.
    That's the scary thing is that it was done by a private entity. Then again many things that the government once did are now being handled by contractors and private firms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kill Me View Post
    That's the scary thing is that it was done by a private entity. Then again many things that the government once did are now being handled by contractors and private firms.
    Outsourcing.
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    Yeah, we've outsourced our war in Iraq to Blackwater and what not.
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