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Old December 11th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A man murdered his girlfriend after he was released early from prison to ease overcrowding.


Andrew Mournian had already served five jail terms when he was jailed for 20 weeks for attacking Amanda Murphy.

But eight weeks into that sentence, he joined the roll-call of 11,000 other inmates given their freedom early.

And five days later he beat Miss Murphy so badly that the mother-of-two died in hospital of her injuries. Scroll down for more...
Vile: Murderer Andrew Mournian killed his girlfriend after being released early for attacking her



The case - which emerged yesterday - immediately triggered demands for the Government to scrap its early-release policy. Ministers are braced for two more shocking cases - including a sex assault - to come to court.

Critics last night questioned how many more early-release inmates had committed serious crimes.

After the fatal attack, Mournian, 36, dialled the emergency services and claimed Miss Murphy had fallen down the stairs.

The 48-year-old ex-teacher suffered fatal head injuries along with internal bleeding and fractures to the face and ribs.

Her mother, Elaine, struggled even to recognise her.

In 2005, Mournian served a 12-month sentence and was given an Asbo for attacking a former girlfriend with a beer bottle.

Miss Murphy, in their ten months together, complained to police five times about Mournian's violence. In June, he was convicted of assault and criminal damage and given a 12-month supervision order.

A day later he attacked Miss Murphy again at their home in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, and received the 20-week sentence.

Despite his past history, and with fatal results, he was deemed eligible for the early-release programme brought in by the Government in June after prison spaces ran out.

The scheme is to continue indefinitely while Justice Secretary Jack Straw scrambles to build more jails.

Nick Herbert, his Tory shadow, said: "Andrew Mournian killed Amanda Murphy when he should have been in prison. He was released early as part of a disastrous scheme to relieve prison overcrowding.

"We argued that this scheme put members of the public at risk and should be scrapped immediately - this has now been tragically demonstrated."

Opposition politicians say the early-release scheme is a direct result of Labour's failure to build enough prisons. More than 2,000 violent offenders have benefited from the programme so far.

Prisoners released early are not individually risk-assessed and have committed 180 further crimes.

In the Commons yesterday, Mr Herbert asked Mr Straw: "What have you got to say to Miss Murphy's relatives about the Government's decision to release such offenders early?" Scroll down for more...
Attacked: Jack Staw was criticised for his early-release End of Custody Licence sheme


Mr Straw replied that the judge had indicated Mournian - an alcoholic and heroin addict - would have killed whenever he was released.

At Leeds Crown Court last week, Mrs Justice Swift sentenced Mournian to life imprisonment and ordered that he serve a minimum of 14 years in jail.
Norman Brennan, of the Victims of Crime Trust, said Mournian, who admitted murder, was a "ticking timebomb" who should still have been behind bars when he carried out the fatal attack.

The Tories last night released a list of questions for Mr Straw to answer, including whether checks were made on the address Mournian gave to officials.

Harry Fletcher, assistant general secretary of probation union Napo, said his organisation had warned ministers in the summer of the dangers of freeing inmates without risk assessments or address checks.

He added: "We pointed out that men with a history of violence against their partners were being let out without proper checks.

"The scheme needs to be urgently revised to ensure that anyone convicted of violence against their partner is not automatically returned to the same address."

Last week, Mr Straw announced plans to build an extra 15,000 prison places by 2014, taking the total to 96,000.

The scheme includes up to three huge Titan jails, holding up to 2,500 inmates each, a prison ship and the conversion of a former army camp.

But the Government's own expert, Lord Carter, said more than 100,000 places were needed by 2014.
This will mean thousands of criminals being electronically tagged instead of jailed.

Wife-beater released early during prison crisis killed girlfriend five days later | the Daily Mail
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Too bad he wasn't arrested for drug possession, because that's REALLY dangerous to the public and he would have stayed locked up (sarcasm).
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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He just needs a single bullet between those eyebrows.

Problem solved.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Oh our wonderful Injustice System is at it again.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, he was only released a few months early. I doubt that three months would have made a difference in his character or violent tendencies, so she might well have ended up dead anyway.

But I would really like to know, didn't they have any prisoners in for non-violent crimes that they could have released instead?
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I hate that this happened, but she should have been careful about dating a man that had already been in trouble for beating other women.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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^^How would she ahve known about his past? I'm not sure many people are in the habit of running criminal checks on prospective new partners.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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But I would really like to know, didn't they have any prisoners in for non-violent crimes that they could have released instead? Well, thanks to Reagan's genius war on drugs, there are often mandantory sentences for drug possession, so that means the pedos/rapists/murderers have to get out early instead.
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^^How would she ahve known about his past? I'm not sure many people are in the habit of running criminal checks on prospective new partners.

Actually, after I found out that a guy I was dating was married in a neighboring state and had houses, businesses and driver's licenses in both states and was never caught in a lie unil after sometime after we started dating - I started to do background checks after a few dates.

I know it sounds nuts but I never wanted to be in that situation again so I learned to take matters into my hands.

You may not get all the info and it's likely that an abusive person can have no record of their behavior but I see no harm in trying anyway.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
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^^How would she ahve known about his past? I'm not sure many people are in the habit of running criminal checks on prospective new partners.
People that beat women are normally very easy to spot. It's all about control and rage and it's not something they can hide. And this day and time it probably is a good idea to run checks on men that you don't know and plan on living with.

Also, "Miss Murphy, in their ten months together, complained to police five times about Mournian's violence."
It only takes one time. THEN LEAVE!
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree she should have broken it off after the first time but I can't say that I would ever run a check on someone I was dating unless there were obvious signs something was amiss, and even then I'd probably just end it.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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^ I wouldn't either but then again, I think I am smarter than the average woman when it comes to dealing with a man.

Seriously though, I have heard of a lot of people starting to do background checks on people before they start dating them. They were talking about this on the radio other morning and a lot of callers said they did it and knew a lot of friends that did too.
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When did people stop trusting thier instincts? I know when I've dated wackos and gotten out stat.
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^ Well, I have only dated about 4 guys in my life and been with my husband for 15 years so I don't know much about the dating world. I just think people hear of so much going on now that they feel it's better to be safe than sorry; and with the internet it's just so easy to check up on things.
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The UK has the pussiest criminal justice system in the world.
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