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    Lottery ticket unlucky for winner
    Bank robber faces hearing over whether he violated his probation terms
    The Associated Press
    updated 2:00 a.m. PT, Thurs., Nov. 29, 2007
    BOSTON - The winner of a $1 million lottery scratch ticket may not be so lucky after all: He's a convicted bank robber who isn't supposed to gamble.

    Timothy Elliott faces a Dec. 7 court hearing over whether he violated his probation when he bought the $10 ticket for the $800 Million Spectacular game at a supermarket in Hyannis.

    Elliott was placed on five years' probation after pleading guilty in October 2006 to unarmed robbery for a January 2006 heist at a bank on Cape Cod.

    Under terms of his probation, he "may not gamble, purchase lottery tickets or visit an establishment where gaming is conducted, including restaurants where Keno may be played."

    Elliott, 55, has collected the first of 20 annual $50,000 checks from the Massachusetts lottery commission. A picture of Elliott, holding his first check, was posted on the lottery's Web site Monday, though it was removed by Wednesday.

    As part of his sentence, Elliott was put under the care of the state Mental Health Department and sent to a hospital for treatment, and state officials refused Wednesday to say whether he was still being treated.

    A telephone number for Elliott could not immediately be located Wednesday, and it was not clear whether he had a lawyer.

    The lottery routinely cross references the names of winners with the state Revenue Department to see if they owe back taxes or child support, lottery spokesman Dan Rosenfeld said. In those cases, winnings go straight to the Revenue Department.

    But in this case, it will be up to the court to determine what will happen with Elliott's winnings.

    "This is kind of new territory," he said.


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    It seems pretty clear-cut that he did violate probation, but I'm kind of on the fence as to whether he should be punished.

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    I saw this earlier. Damn right the money should be taken away from him!!! He violated his probation for robbery, and he's a felon with no regard for the law. Could it be any clearer? The guy's probation requirements was that he can't buy lottery tickets. To me, its a no-brainer. He should absolutely be punished.
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    ITA, the law is clear. We can not reward criminals. Period.

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    They could just give the $1 million to the Mental Health Department since they've already spent some on him! Worthy cause and all

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    No...he shouldn't be punished. No punishment at all! Let's see...he robbed a bank and then got measly probation. So why not continue with the consequences that have no meaning? Let him keep the money. That will teach him to follow the rules.
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    Wtf? Of course he ought to be punished. He violated the terms of his probation and should be sent back to jail.

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    they should give him the check, and then make him IMMEDIATELY sign it over to a charity...
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    Here you go. *snatch* Psyche!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoegal View Post
    ITA, the law is clear. We can not reward criminals. Period.
    Society rewards criminals all the time. Most of them are wearing $10,000 suits and Rolex watches, but they are criminals all the same. White-collar criminals who run corporations routinely break the law AND get away with it. Insider stock deals -- a lot of these people are allowed to skate and they never have to return one dime of what they steal. And it IS stealing. They just used a fountain pen or a computer instead of a weapon.

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    I think compromise would be better. I'm sure the money train will end pretty soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacific breeze View Post
    Society rewards criminals all the time. Most of them are wearing $10,000 suits and Rolex watches, but they are criminals all the same. White-collar criminals who run corporations routinely break the law AND get away with it. Insider stock deals -- a lot of these people are allowed to skate and they never have to return one dime of what they steal. And it IS stealing. They just used a fountain pen or a computer instead of a weapon.

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    Interesting. If he's legally prohibited from purchasing a ticket, it seems pretty clear cut to me. If you're not legally allowed to purchase a ticket, then the money isn't his. Did anyone ever see that surveillance footage long ago of a kid pulling a slot machine? The kid hit the jackpot, but as a minor, he wasn't allowed to gamble (I don't think he was even allowed in the casino to begin with). Needless to say, the kid wasn't allowed to keep the jackpot.

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    He should give the money to the elves.
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    I'm probably against the majority, but I think he should be given the money.

    I understand no gambling is a term of his probation. But he has not won this money for being a bank robber, he won it because he picked the right numbers, or the numbers were already picked automatically. To be honest, I hardly recognized the lottery as gambling. But I'm sure he was aware it was. Maybe it could go into a bank until he is off probation?
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