Woman has sex with twins and gets pregnant, DNA test can't tell who the father is

**MaryJane** · May 23rd, 2007, 04:55 AM

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Twin brothers Raymon and Richard Miller are the father and uncle to a 3-year-old little girl. The problem is, they don't know which is which. Or who is who.

The identical Missouri twins say they were unknowingly having sex with the same woman. And according to the woman's testimony, she had sex with each man on the same day. Within hours of each other.

When the woman in question, Holly Marie Adams, got pregnant, she named Raymon the father, but he contested and demanded a paternity test, bringing his own brother Richard to court.

But a paternity test in this case could not help. The test showed that both brothers have over a 99.9 percent probability of being the daddy— and neither one wants to pay the child support. The result of the test has not only brought to light the limits of DNA evidence, it has also led to a three-year legal battle, a Miller family feud and a little girl who may never know who her real father is.

"'Did you sleep with him [Richard Miller] while in Sikeston for the rodeo?'," Cameron Parker, Richard's lawyer, said she asked Holly Marie Adams in 2003 court testimony, to which she answered "'Yes ma'am.'" "She then said she went to appellant's [Raymon Miller's]home where they had sex later that night or early the next morning," Parker said.

Asked if it is true that he did at one time formally date Adams, Richard Miller told ABC News, "Well, if you call that dating." Raymon confirms that he never dated Adams in any sense, but that they were "messing around."

As soon as Raymon was asked to pay child support, he demanded that he and his brother both take a paternity test. When the paternity test came back with the same results, he took the matter to the courts where Judge Fred Copeland ruled that even in light of the identical DNA tests and overlapping relationships, Raymon would remain the legal father of the child. Raymon hopes to continue appealing the decision.

"I want to go to the Supreme Court," Raymon told ABC News. "If they can't prove it's me then they should throw it out of court." And as for the child support, he said, "The state should eat it."

Miller contacted ABC News through the Law & Justice unit internet tipline. Copeland, however, notes that as the judge in the case, he does not have to depend solely on DNA evidence and can rule based on the testimony of Adams as well -- who believes she can nail down the date of conception to a night spent with Raymon.

"Look, she had a bunch of girlfriends to the rodeo and they got drunk and she went banging on Raymon's door trying to have sex," Copeland said. "He says he did reluctantly…but I can't imagine it was reluctantly — and that's when the baby was conceived I guess."

As for the mother, Holly Marie Adams just wants the whole battle to be over.

"We've been to court over and over and they always ruled the same way," Adams said. "We are tired. We are done with this."

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ABC News: Identical Twins Caught in Paternity Flap

yanna · May 23rd, 2007, 05:03 AM

Why don't those two identical assholes both pay half?

CRAZY 'N' NUTS · May 23rd, 2007, 05:21 AM

All three parties involved are idiots, clueless dickheads. I only feel sorry for the poor baby, I hope she doesnt learn about this situation when she grows up.

buttmunch · May 23rd, 2007, 05:48 AM

A trio of cro-magnuns.

Voodoo Child · May 23rd, 2007, 06:43 AM

Geez what a circus!

VenusInFauxFurs · May 23rd, 2007, 06:52 AM

A circle of stupid.

Lucky32 · May 23rd, 2007, 10:43 AM

"And as for the child support, he said, "The state should eat it.""

Worthless piece of s**t! So did both brothers know they were sleeping with the same woman, since he demanded his brother be tested after child support was asked for?

Just Kill Me · May 23rd, 2007, 10:47 AM

Poor kid. This whole situation is bullshit. Why the fuck would you go through with a pregnancy intending to ask for child support and not knowing who the father is?

greysfang · May 23rd, 2007, 10:54 AM

I find this utterly fascinating from a scientific standpoint. But this is utter BS. I'm assuming the court is going with standard DNA testing, there is much more involved DNA that can be done to determine the father, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't been admitted in a court case before.

That said, I'm so sorry for that baby. This is just horrid.

McJag · May 23rd, 2007, 11:08 AM

Why is this difficult? Both should be held equally accountable for this child. Their mother should give them vasectomies for Christmas since they can't be trusted to wear condoms.

sputnik · May 23rd, 2007, 11:37 AM

klassy bunch. and the fact that it all happened at the rodeo makes it even funnier

greysfang · May 23rd, 2007, 11:39 AM

Hey! I'm going to a rodeo this weekend.

And just so I don't seem like a total hayseed, I'm also going to see Morrissey tonight.

McJag · May 23rd, 2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by greysfang

Hey! I'm going to a rodeo this weekend.

And just so I don't seem like a total hayseed, I'm also going to see Morrissey tonight.

Take condoms.

greysfang · May 23rd, 2007, 11:45 AM

I'm taking my kids, I'm not hooking up with anyone.

MrsDark · May 23rd, 2007, 11:48 AM

I know it's so commonplace people barely give it a thought but: It really affects a kid in ways people don't seem to give a shit about at all when it takes a court order to get a parent to support a child. Believe me, that child almost always knows when this happens. A parent should want to support their child. Even if it means sucking it up and handing something over to the now-despised ex. I don't give a fuck what all excuses and situations people come up with about how crazy their ex is and how they were deceived and yada, yada. If your ex is that bad then you should be petitioning the court for custody.

In this case, the woman is a selfish whore, and the men are BOTH deadbeat piece of shit punks. Can we put the poor kid with somebody...anybody ELSE who actually gives a shit about its welfare?