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Old January 4th, 2007, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Hurricane Katrina: Screw the people! Save the embryos!!!

Childbirth near for embryo rescued during Katrina

Updated Thu. Jan. 4 2007 8:11 AM ET
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NEW ORLEANS -- The baby album for Rebekah Markham's soon-to-be-born child could include something extra special: photos of officers using flat-bottomed boats to rescue the youngster's frozen embryo from a sweltering hospital in the chaotic aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
Markham is about to give birth via Caesarean section, nine months after being implanted with an embryo that nearly thawed when the flooded hospital lost electricity.
"It's going to be exciting for the little baby, once he gets old enough to realize what it went through," said Markham, a 32-year-old physical therapist whose husband, Glen, 42, is a New Orleans police officer. "Katrina's history. A big part of history."
The baby -- the Markhams do not know whether they are having a boy or a girl, but are guessing it's a boy -- will be one of the first children to be born from the more than 1,400 embryos that were rescued from New Orleans' Lakeland Hospital two weeks after the storm.
And it isn't just the Markhams who are tickled.
"That is great! I'm going to call all our officers and tell them. They'll be pretty excited," said Lt. Eric Bumgarner, one of seven Illinois Conservation Police officers and three Louisiana state troopers who sloshed through floodwaters to remove the embryos. Bumgarner said he has often wondered what happened to the embryos: "One of these embryos could be the next president."
The C-section is set for Jan. 16.
Because of fertility problems that afflicted both husband and wife, a clinic created embryos from her egg and his sperm in 2003. Two were implanted immediately, and one grew into their first child -- a boy who turned 1 just before Hurricane Katrina. The rest were stored in liquid nitrogen tanks at about minus 320 degrees to be used as needed. The Markhams had always planned to have at least two children.
Their embryos, along with those belonging to hundreds of other couples, were kept at the Fertility Institute's laboratory at the hospital. Two days before Katrina hit on Aug. 29, 2005, the clinic took steps to protect the embryos by topping off all its tanks with liquid nitrogen and moving them to the third floor.
But Katrina's eight feet of water knocked out the electricity, and the temperature climbed. A freshly topped-off tank is safe for three to four weeks in an air-conditioned room, but "I'm sure the temperature was over 100 degrees in that hospital," Dr. Belinda "Sissy" Sartor, a fertility expert for the institute.
Fearing the embryos would be ruined, she contacted a state lawmaker, who called Gov. Kathleen Blanco, and on Sept. 11, Illinois officers on loan to Louisiana set out in National Guard trucks, towing flat-bottomed boats.
A flat surface was essential: The 35- and 40-liter nitrogen tanks, which weigh 75 and 90 pounds, had to stay upright. If one tipped over, the nitrogen would spill.
In the hospital parking lot, the boats puttered past cars still flooded almost up to their windows. The boats were taken through the flooded halls, and the embryos were floated out. They were taken across town to a hospital that had not flooded.
The embryos, which are kept in separate labeled vials inside the tanks, were undamaged, doctors said.
The Markhams were too busy during Katrina -- she and her son fled to a relative's home, and her husband was on the job -- to even think about the fate of the stored embryos, and they did not find out about the rescue until afterward.
But if the embryos had thawed, each woman who wanted another baby would have had to undergo another expensive round of fertility drugs, egg harvesting, and in vitro fertilization. Markham estimated her first pregnancy cost $12,000; the second $2,000. Her husband's insurance covered that, but had a lifetime cap of $15,000.
The Markhams, who live in suburban Covington, have not picked out names yet. But if the baby's a girl, she won't be called Katrina.
"There's nothing good associated with that name," the mother-to-be said.
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A special rescue mission for embryos in nitrogen when there were stranded people all over the city is so deeply messed up.
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Old January 4th, 2007, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd ask who paid for all this, but then you might tell me and I'd have to kill myself.....I double your "egads" and raise you an "I can't believe people are this crazy!"

If the embryo began to melt, does that mean the kid's face will be all squishy? I keep picturing a Fun House Mirror Kid.....

My taxpayer $'s at work.....
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Old January 4th, 2007, 04:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I keep wondering if there turns out to be something wrong with this kid, can they send it back due to heat damage???
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Old January 4th, 2007, 04:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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^^If not that, you can bet your booties that someone will be sued over it......
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Old January 4th, 2007, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There were CHILDREN, fully formed and born roaming the streets of New Orleans looking for their parents. There were men and women BEGGING on the tops of their fucking roofs.

*vomit*
God this makes me insanely angry...
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Old January 4th, 2007, 06:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes, but those were POOR children. Who gives a damn about poor people? These embryos cost thousands of dollars to make! Money evidently determines your worth as a human being. I'm still fuming about this one.
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Old January 4th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This truly is nuts.

But OT, sorry, I have always wondered how an embryo survives being frozen anyway. If you froze cynic, and then unfroze him a year later, I'm pretty sure he'd be dead. But an embryo survives? Befuddles me.
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Old January 4th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah its a pretty pathetic situation and story. shame on those retards.
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Old January 4th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Not surprised. Saw a form today from Medicare/Medicaid authorizing the dispensing/prescribing of free Viagra/Levitra/Cialis. Your tax dollars at work, police boats for yuppies frozen embryos while regular folks died and suffered and free hardon meds for old timers and poor bootknockers while regular people with insurance have to fill out three prior authorization forms and swear on a Bible to get their insurance just to cover meds for things like high blood pressure and diabetes.
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Old January 4th, 2007, 11:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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^ thats lovely UCG; just lovely.

excuse my language but thats FUCKING BULLSHIT!
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Old January 5th, 2007, 10:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This truly is nuts.

But OT, sorry, I have always wondered how an embryo survives being frozen anyway. If you froze cynic, and then unfroze him a year later, I'm pretty sure he'd be dead. But an embryo survives? Befuddles me.
Same concept as some bugs and one type of frog that can go into statis. Something to do with the water content and quick freezing. Like if someone falls into freezing water. If you get them out quickly and thaw them properly, they can be fine, even after they have been clinically dead. And an embryo, being only a clump of cells and not an actual organism, would be even less likely to be damaged.

For myself.....various women have put me on ice from time to time....and I didn't suffer any long-term effects......well, other than giving up on women entirely and deciding to go after a third sex....
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^ hhahhahahhahaaa cynic!

you're funny.
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^ hhahhahahhahaaa cynic!

you're funny.

.....and you are easily amused....... but, sadly.....do not classify as a third sex.....
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Hmmm. Ok, well I still don't really understand it, but it would have been cool if that frozen caveman would have been alive when they thawed him.
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Old January 5th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Great. Our tax dollars paying for some clueless idjit's pathetic hard-on. Is there a *strangle* smilie available somewhere?

And don't get me started about Katrina. I watch a lot of news, and I'm a very compassionate person but few stories have made me absolutely bawl my eyes out like Katrina did. I've heard that from lots of other people too.
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