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    Australian couple leaves Down syndrome baby with Thai surrogate

    DateAugust 1, 2014Lindsay Murdoch

    South-East Asia correspondent for Fairfax Media

    Hundreds of Australian families travel to Thailand each year to achieve their dreams of having children. Their future is in doubt after Thailand announced changes to its surrogacy laws.








    Gammy, a six-month-old baby abandoned by his Australian parents, could die because his impoverished Thai surrogate mother cannot pay for medical treatment for his congenital heart condition.
    The child will never know his twin sister, who was born healthy with him in a Bangkok hospital and has been taken away by their parents, who are living anonymously in Australia.
    The story of how 21-year-old Pattharamon Janbua was cheated by a surrogacy agent in Bangkok and left to try to save the life of her critically unwell baby has emerged as Thai authorities move to crack down on IVF clinics, leaving hundreds of Australian couples facing uncertainty about their surrogacy children.
    Gammy has Down syndrome.
    Ms Pattharamon says when she looks at Gammy, who has Down syndrome, she feels sorry for him and guilty.
    “But I think this is not a bad karma ... it’s good karma that make us be together,” she says from her village in Chonburi province in northern Thailand.
    “I would like to tell Thai women – don’t get into this business as a surrogate. Don’t just think only for money ... if something goes wrong no one will help us and the baby will be abandoned from society, then we have to take responsibility for that.”
    Ms Pattharamon’s family were struggling to pay off debts last year when she was offered the equivalent of $11,700 to be a surrogate mother for an Australian couple who could not conceive a baby.
    “I asked the agency, ‘Did I have to sleep with the man?’ I was an innocent young girl and I don’t know about this business," she says.
    "The agent told me, ‘We are going to make a glass tube baby,’ but I didn’t understand.
    “My husband agreed because we didn’t have money to pay our debt and I didn’t need to have sex with another man.”
    Ms Pattharamon says three months after a doctor injected the Australian woman’s fertilised egg into her uterus, she discovered she was having twins.
    The agent promised her an additional $1673 to have the second baby.
    Four months into the pregnancy, doctors doing routine checks discovered one of the babies had Down syndrome. They told the Australian parents, who said they did not want to take the boy, according to a source familiar with the case.
    “They told me to have an abortion but I didn’t agree because I am afraid of sin,” Ms Pattharamon says, referring to her Buddhist beliefs.
    When the babies were born the agent took the healthy girl and left the boy with her.
    Ms Pattharamon never saw the Australian couple.
    Under the threat of not being paid, she lied to an official of the Australian embassy in Bangkok about the circumstances of the births, which allowed the Australians to take the healthy baby.
    “But the agent never paid the rest of the 70,000 baht ($2341) owed to me,” she says.
    A “Hope for Gammy” campaign (gofundme.com/bxci90) to raise money for a series of desperately needed operations and to help Ms Pattharamon care for the boy is under way in Bangkok, after the Thai Rath newspaper revealed their plight.
    Some officials of the Australian embassy in Bangkok are supporting the campaign.
    “Greedy, selfish people,” Nicole McCafferty, who has two surrogate children, wrote on a gofundme.com site.
    An Australian donor wrote on the Thai Surrogacy Forum: ‘‘... to leave a twin behind? Like a toy you bought from a shop you picked the one you wanted and ripped away the baby from its twin. Will they tell the healthy twin [she] has a brother that oh, we decided to leave behind and ignore and never supported, not even financially.”
    Senior Thai health and legal officials threw Thailand’s booming surrogacy business into crisis on Wednesday when they declared that, according to Thai law, the only legal surrogacy cases were those in which a married couple cannot conceive a child and engage a blood relative to carry their child in an altruistic surrogacy arrangement.
    They declared as illegal any surrogacy arrangement commissioned by an unmarried couple or a couple whose marriage is not legal in Thailand, such as a same-sex couple.
    Any arrangement in which money was provided to the surrogate to carry the child was also illegal, they said.
    And any foreigner removing a child from its mother to another country permanently without permission from Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs would be violating the country’s human trafficking laws.
    Sam Everingham, director of Families Through Surrogacy, an organisation that runs best-practice conferences for surrogacy, said the declaration placed ‘‘hundreds of Australian and other foreign parents in a very difficult position’’.
    “Many of them had taken on trust the advice of Thai doctors and agents to enter into surrogacy arrangements in Thailand on the understanding that this was a reliable pathway to parenthood,” he said.
    “Already Australian parents leaving Thailand with children via surrogacy are being asked for additional proof that their surrogate was not compensated for carrying their child.”
    Mr Everingham said Gammy's case showed ‘‘the need for couples to be counselled before they go into any surrogacy, to ensure they know the risks they may be faced with that could lead to these situations".
    "It’s a really sad story but not the first case we have seen in this area,” he said. “There have been recent tragic cases of foreign parents not accepting disabled children born through surrogacy.”
    Mr Everingham said commercial surrogacy was not generally accepted in Thai society and had been conducted discreetly for years.
    But he said operators who had arrived in Thailand to take advantage of the industry’s growth had crossed the line and were exploiting surrogates and would-be parents, and were not respecting local culture.
    Some clinics were not certified by the Thai Royal College of Obstetricians.
    Stephen Page, one of Australia’s leading surrogacy lawyers, said although it was illegal for people living in Queensland, NSW and the ACT to undertake commercial surrogacy in Thailand, “this has not stopped the deluge’’.
    Mr Everingham said that at any one time there were about 20 Australian couples in Thailand for the birth of their child or children.
    “It is a very significant market for Australia – particularly the same-sex couple market,” he said. “We have hundreds of Australian couples in our forums at the moment because they are worried about the security of surrogacy arrangements they have entered into.”
    Thai authorities have also signalled a crackdown on clinics that use IVF procedures that allow selection of a baby’s sex, which brings dozens of Australian couples to Bangkok every month.
    The procedures are banned in Australia.
    Commercial surrogacy has been largely unregulated in Thailand


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    an aussie friend posted about this on her facebook and obviously it was a clusterfuck.
    i think the couple are assholes but not for abortion rights reasons, i think they're dicks for leaving the sick baby in thailand, and for going to thailand and hiring a surrogate who didn't even understand how that works. now i realise that if australia got its shit together and made it easier for people to use surrogates, people would be less likely to resort to shady arrangements in developing countries with loose or lacking regulation, corruption, poverty and ignorance, but i feel kind of icky about how they basically exploited this poor woman.

    at the same time, they were facing a tough situation. had they been able to conceive normally, they would have been able to opt for an abortion once the abnormality was discovered and no one but their doctor would have known and they wouldn't have faced any judgement or condemnation, and would have been well within their rights.

    but it doesn't excuse that they abandoned the baby in thailand, when at the very least, if they were adamant about not keeping him after the surrogate refused to abort, they should have brought him back to australia, placed in him in foster care and at least guaranteed that his health needs would be met.
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    This falls into the category of Unintended Consequences and the whole clusterfuck of unregulated, commercially motivated artificial human breeding programs. This poor little boy is the inevitable victim.
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    JFC - how sad is this.
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    Well, this is just sad. Poor Gammy.

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    Ugh, how could they do that?Poor boy.

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    How can this woman be responsible for a baby she doesn't share any DNA with? The couple should be forced to bring their baby home, I hope the twin they kept grows up to hate her parents for what they did.
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    I'm a messed up human being sometimes, but am still capable of being surprised by the shitty shit people can do. Count this as being one of those times.
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    Breaks my heart. That sweet baby. The surrogate too, so sad. At least it sounds like she is stepping in acting as his mother and showing him love.

    ETA Here's a clickable link to the Go Fund Me: http://www.gofundme.com/bxci90

    And a video that explains what is happening to Gammy right now: https://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/vide...or-baby-gammy/
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    I wonder if she can get some child support from them or even sue the agency since another article says she does not know their names/hasn't met them before.

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    This was a semi legal, unregulated, commercial surrogacy arrangement with an uneducated Thai peasant girl. Nobody appears to have any legal protection or obligation at all, only a moral one and relying on that is always very risky. The baby is now in a good hospital receiving the treatment he needs thanks to generous public donations ($200k?) but his longer term future still looks very uncertain.

    If the bio parents of this baby are as morally bankrupt as these two seem to be then maybe their infertility was God trying to tell them they don't deserve to be parents. Flame away.
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    How could they leave their own flesh and blood with an impoverished stranger knowing what a shit life he will have? And not make even scant provision for his future? I just hate people sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    If the bio parents of this baby are as morally bankrupt as these two seem to be then maybe their infertility was God trying to tell them they don't deserve to be parents.

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    I don't agree that infertility is any sort of punishment but those two should have never had kids, such pricks. I hope their "normal" daughter gives them hell when she grows up.
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    Infertility isn't a sign from the universe that you'll be a terrible parent. Look at all the shitty parents who have no trouble spitting out kids.
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    I think surrogacy can be a beautiful and selfless thing - but you also have to get what you are given. You cannot go into it unless you are prepared to accept every consequence and possible outcome without walking away because you got less than your idea of perfection.
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