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    Default US dairy industry petitions FDA to approve aspartame as unlabled additive

    You probably already know that the FDA has declared war on raw milk and even helped fund and coordinate armed government raids against raw milk farmers and distributors. Yes, it's insane. This brand of tyranny is unique to the USA and isn't even conducted in China, North Kora or Cuba. Only in the USA are raw milk farmers treated like terrorists.

    But now the situation is getting even more insane than you could have imagined: the International Dairy Foods Association (IDFA) and the National Milk Producers Federation (NMPF) have filed a petition with the FDAasking the FDA to alter the definition of "milk" to secretly include chemical sweeteners such as aspartame and sucralose.

    Importantly, none of these additives need to be listed on the label. They will simply be swept under the definition of "milk," so that when a company lists "milk" on the label, it automatically includes aspartame or sucralose. And if you're trying to avoid aspartame, you'll have no way of doing so because it won't be listed on the label.

    This isn't only for milk, either: It's also for yogurt, cream, sour cream, eggnog, whipping cream and a total of 17 products, all of which are listed in the petition at FDA.gov.

    As the petition states:

    IDFA and NMPF request their proposed amendments to the milk standard of identity to allow optional characterizing flavoring ingredients used in milk (e.g., chocolate flavoring added to milk) to be sweetened with any safe and suitable sweetener -- including non-nutritive sweeteners such as aspartame.

    This is all being done to "save the children," we're told, because the use of aspartame in milk products would reduce calories.

    Milk industry specifically asks to HIDE aspartame from consumers

    Astonishingly, the dairy industry is engaged in extreme doublespeak logic and actually arguing that aspartame should be hidden from consumers by not listing it on the label. Here's what the petition says:

    IDFA and NMPF argue that nutrient content claims such as "reduced calorie" are not attractive to children, and maintain that consumers can more easily identify the overall nutritional value of milk products that are flavored with non-nutritive sweeteners if the labels do not include such claims. Further, the petitioners assert that consumers do not recognize milk -- including flavored milk -- as necessarily containing sugar. Accordingly, the petitioners state that milk flavored with non-nutritive sweeteners should be labeled as milk without further claims so that consumers can "more easily identify its overall nutritional value."

    In other words, hiding aspartame from consumers by not including it on the label actually helps consumers, according to the IDFA and NMPF!

    Yep, consumers are best served by keeping them ignorant. If this logic smacks of the same kind of twisted deception practiced by Monsanto, that's because it's identical: the less consumers know, the more they are helped, according to industry. And it's for the children, too, because children are also best served by keeping them poisoned with aspartame.

    Consumers have always been kept in the dark about pink slime, meat glue, rBGH and GMOs in their food. And now, if the IDFA gets its way, you'll be able to drink hormone-contaminated milk from an antibiotics-inundated cow fed genetically modified crops and producing milk containing hidden aspartame. And you won't have the right to know about any of this!

    The FDA confirms this "secret" status of aspartame, stating, "If the standard of identity for milk is amended as requested by petitioners, milk manufacturers could use non-nutritive sweeteners in flavored milk without a nutrient content claim in its labeling."


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    oh for fuck's sake, that's just insane.
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    aspartame is fucking poison. i never use it. this would be terrible.
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    The hell? Aspartame makes me sick and if I bought some yogurt with that shit in it, somebody is getting fucking SUED.
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    Aspartame is bad for people who have phenyketoneuria. It's safe for everyone else.

    According to the CDC, though, raw milk is unsafe:

    Milk and milk products provide a wealth of nutrition benefits. But raw milk can harbor dangerous microorganisms that can pose serious health risks to you and your family. According to an analysis by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), between 1993 and 2006 more than 1500 people in the United States became sick from drinking raw milk or eating cheese made from raw milk. In addition, CDC reported that unpasteurized milk is 150 times more likely to cause foodborne illness and results in 13 times more hospitalizations than illnesses involving pasteurized dairy products.

    Raw milk is milk from cows, sheep, or goats that has not been pasteurized to kill harmful bacteria. This raw, unpasteurized milk can carry dangerous bacteria such as Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are responsible for causing numerous foodborne illnesses.

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    No it is not safe for everyone else. That shit breaks down into formaldehyde by stomach acid and that's probably why it makes me, and so many other people, sick to their stomach.
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    I'm not going to get into the raw milk debate because I've heard both sides argued pretty well to the point where I feel I can't really decide one way or another Aspartame, however, is bad for you. I have seen way too much evidence to think otherwise. It's not something that should be in anyone's food without telling them, especially not something that is a staple in most houses with children
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    It would still be on the list of ingredients. What they're lobbying for is to not have to call it "reduced calorie". I'm not 100% sure how I feel about that, but they aren't trying to get around listing it as an ingredient altogether.

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    I don't want raw mlik. I don't want aspartame. I will skip milk and stay with soy or almond milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    No it is not safe for everyone else. That shit breaks down into formaldehyde by stomach acid and that's probably why it makes me, and so many other people, sick to their stomach.
    The problem is that you get more formaldehyde from fruit juice than from aspartame.

    I've consumed hundreds and hundreds of gallons of aspartame-sweetened drinks since the late 1980's. No cancer, no seizures, no teeth fell out, no arthritis. I have all my hair. I don't wear glasses or hearing aids. No ulcers or digestive issues. I don't have the heartbreak of psoriasis. Aspartame is basically the key to my stellar health.

    ETA: I agree that if someone puts aspartame or Splenda, or whatever, in it, they should freaking label it. I also think that Orrin Hatch's stupid food supplements/additives legislation should be repealed.

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    I don't drink fruit juice, so no I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    I don't drink fruit juice, so no I don't.
    Okay, since Easter is coming up, I want to warn you that a single jelly bean contains 45 times more formaldehyde-producing material than a 12-ounce can of Diet Coke.

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    aspartame's FDA approval was one of the most heavily fought against, they had initially banned it. too much shadiness went on behind the scenes to get this crap on the market for me to ever trust it.

    i don't drink diet anything. if i can avoid chemicals in my food, i do.



    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post

    I've consumed hundreds and hundreds of gallons of aspartame-sweetened drinks since the late 1980's. No cancer, no seizures, no teeth fell out, no arthritis. I have all my hair. I don't wear glasses or hearing aids. No ulcers or digestive issues. I don't have the heartbreak of psoriasis.

    I know someone who has smoked since 1980. She doesn't have cancer, emphysema or heart trouble. Thus, smoking is perfectly safe. QED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    raw milk is unsafe
    No, it CAN be unsafe.

    Instead of making it illegal, why not just not have it in stores let the people who really want it sign a waiver and get it directly from the source?


    ...and the beginning of aspartame sounds like "ass" for a reason. It describes the taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    aspartame's FDA approval was one of the most heavily fought against, they had initially banned it. too much shadiness went on behind the scenes to get this crap on the market for me to ever trust it.

    i don't drink diet anything. if i can avoid chemicals in my food, i do.
    The initial approval was shady, and then after it was banned they re-reviewed it and approved it. Then, the GAO looked into it again like 10 years later and said that the follow-up approval process was on the up and up.

    But to tie this all back to the original post, about 35 people die from food-borne listeria in the United States every year. And here is a fairly standard warning about raw milk, listeria, and pregnancy:
    Listeria is a bacteria found in raw milk (milk that has not been pasteurized). It is actually everywhere: in the soil, on the floor of the barn, and in the water. Because it is ubiquitous, meat, milk, cheese, and even vegetables can easily become contaminated.
    Listeria poses a specific risk to pregnant women. If exposed to listeria, a pregnant woman is 20 times more likely to become ill (people with weakened immune systems, such as a premature baby, the elderly, or those with HIV, are also at increased risk). In the United States, pregnant women make up about 30% of cases of listeria infections.

    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    No, it CAN be unsafe.
    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Instead of making it illegal, why not just not have it in stores let the people who really want it sign a waiver and get it directly from the source?
    ...and the beginning of aspartame sounds like "ass" for a reason. It describes the taste.


    I think the problem with the waiver is that I don't think most stores have a process for waiving your rights to safe food. With regard to the taste of aspartame, most of the content, and taste in the packet of aspartame is the bulking agent maltodextrin.

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