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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Moscow's 1st gay pride parade ruined by Christians and skinheads

Wow. You know your religion and it's freakish adherents have sunk to a new low when they they're in league with racist, fascist neo-nazi skinheads.

Then again, they aren't so different.

[quote]Sunday, May 28, 2006; A16

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MOSCOW, May 27 -- Riot police broke up an attempt by gays and lesbians to stage Moscow's first gay pride parade Saturday. Gay activists who attempted to lay flowers near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier outside the Kremlin wall and then assemble across from city hall were heckled and assaulted by skinheads, Orthodox Christians and radical nationalists.

Police said they had arrested about 120 people, both supporters and opponents of the parade. Gay activists were dragged away by riot police when they began speaking to reporters, but opponents of the parade, including a nationalist member of parliament, were allowed to speak and chant, "Moscow is not Sodom."

Several international activists and politicians traveled to Moscow in a show of support for Moscow's gays and lesbians. Volker Beck, a member of the German Parliament from the Green Party, marched with the group and was struck in the face by skinheads outside city hall. He was briefly detained after the incident. A Canadian journalist was also assaulted by opponents of the parade, who threw smoke bombs and eggs before police moved in to disperse them.

"Lesbians and gays have to cope with major problems in Russia," Beck said at a news conference earlier in the day. "There is a massive threat of violence, and it is also frightening that there is no clear support from the state for the rights of lesbian and gay citizens. On the contrary, the mayor of Moscow deprives people who advocate tolerance and equal rights of the freedom to demonstrate."

The city had banned the parade on the grounds that it was anathema to the values of most residents and therefore presented a threat of violence. A city court upheld the ban Friday.

Mayor Yuri Luzhkov said in a radio interview Friday that a gay parade "may be acceptable for some kind of progressive, in some sense, countries in the West, but it is absolutely unacceptable for Moscow, for Russia."

He added: "As long as I am mayor, we will not permit these parades to be conducted."

Homosexuality was decriminalized in Russia in 1993, but the gay community in Moscow remains largely underground. Some gay activists had objected to the parade, which was the culmination of a gay pride festival, saying it was likely to provoke a backlash that could damage efforts to build tolerance.

Other activists, backed by international supporters from the United States and Western Europe, decided to go ahead with the demonstration. Unable to march legally, they decided to place flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier on Saturday afternoon but to act as individual citizens to avoid being charged with staging an illegal protest.

A phalanx of riot police sealed off Alexander's Garden where the tomb is located. Women singing hymns and skinheads jostled with the several dozen gay activists when they arrived.

Nikolai Alexeyev, a leading gay rights activist, was arrested at the monument. "This is a great victory, an absolute victory -- look at what's happening," he shouted as he was taken away.

After the marchers were prevented from reaching the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, a small group of activists followed by an even larger crowd of reporters made their way to a square across from city hall where their opponents had already assembled.

"We are going to clean ourselves of the dirt of the last 15 years," said Nikolai Kuryanovic, a member of parliament for the nationalist Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, speaking at the foot of a monument to Yuri Dolgoruky, the founder of Moscow. "This provocation failed."

Riot police looked on as Kuryanovic spoke, but moved in as soon as Yevgenia Debryanskaya, a leading lesbian activist, began to speak to reporters just in front of Kuryanovic. She was dragged away.

Police also stood by as skinheads crowded around Beck and Scott Long of U.S.-based Human Rights Watch, who had unfurled a rainbow flag.

"The police were encouraging the skinheads," Long said. "It was disturbing but not surprising. Luzhkov spent months encouraging violence by his public homophobia."
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This article frustrates me so much that I don't know what to say.

I keep deleting words. It's frustrating.

For the hundredth time, I will NEVER EVER EVER understand why anyone gives a rat's ASS about what other people do sexually, as long as no one gets hurt.

I'm frustrated because, with all the problems in the world, WHY do people focus on beating down homosexuals? Surely the ignorance & inaccurate stereotypes have been erased by now?
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We're the new Jews. A target to hate. It's not even about us, its about people wanting something to loathe.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I can't ever remember being infringed upon or abused by a homosexual. I can't ever recall homosexuals negatively impacting upon me or my community in any way.

I would REALLY like to understand why these people think it's a worthy & justifiable fight. Do they not have jobs to do, families to take care of, vacations to enjoy, responsibilities to fulfill, etc.???? Why spend your time in this way?

Seriously, I do not understand.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm apparently ignorant to an embarrassing degree, but I was under the impression that Russia and its people were fairly tolerant concerning homosexuality.

I have no idea where I got that idea.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It seems the only bastions are the nordic countries, belgium and a few more.. and canada.

Bout it. At least we have some redoubts to call our own.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Mayor Yuri Luzhkov said in a radio interview Friday that a gay parade "may be acceptable for some kind of progressive, in some sense, countries in the West, but it is absolutely unacceptable for Moscow, for Russia."
And this is the mayor saying this?!

So much for tolerance.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 01:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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So he just admitted Moscow is a jerkwater city and Russia as a nation is backwards and undeveloped.

Nice. I bet the national tourism board is just peeing themselves with happiness over that one.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 02:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Click here for a picture of how they apparently deal with gay activists in Russia.

Lovely. I'm sure they're very proud.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 02:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I'd like to cleanse that woman and all her horrible, hate-filled peers from the face of the earth.

I honestly would not hesitate to throw them into the gas chamber and fry them all. They're not people. They're twisted creatures undeserving of kindness or mercy.
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Default Re: Moscow's 1st gay pride parade ruined by Christians and skinheads

That article estimates that 5 - 8 percent of Russia's 143 million people are homosexual.

That's 7,150,000 - 11,440,000 million people they're descriminating against and treating like 2nd class citizens.
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Old May 28th, 2006, 02:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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An army that size could wipe those fascist/religious freaks out and sterilize a nation that big from their scourge.

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Seriously.

It's mind boggling that at the very least that's 3 million more people than live in the entire state I live in being told we don't give a shit about you.
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