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    Payback Is a Bitch for Abortion Clinic Protestors, Thanks to a Brilliant Landlord

    Todd Stave has the unenviable position of being the landlord of a building in Germantown, Maryland, which he leases to an abortion provider called Reproductive Health Services Clinic. So he knows a little something about dealing patiently with anti-abortion protesters. But when they started calling him at home at all hours and harassing his family, he got fed up and came up with a very clever solution: Do unto others as they have been doing unto you.

    Problems really began for Stave at the end of 2010, when he leased his building to LeRoy Carhart, one of the only doctors in the U.S. who openly acknowledges that he performs late-term abortions. As you can imagine, he's a controversial man, and protesters come from far and wide. There is a constant group of them parked outside, praying and holding up signs, many of which have pictures of mangled fetuses. That's pretty much a landlord's nightmare, and yet Stave has a very calm attitude about it. He told Petula Dvorak of the Washington Post this week,
    It's their right. They are protected by the First Amendment. And outside the clinic is probably the most appropriate place for them to express their views.
    If you're wondering how Stave can remain so relaxed about the situation, he explains, "I've been a member of this fight since Roe v. Wade. Since I was 5 years old." You see, the clinic used to belong to his father, and then his sister ran it. When he was younger, the office was firebombed, and protesters were often gathered outside his dad's house. So he's used to a certain level of harassment, and he'll tolerate it, but only up to a point. And recently, the usually calm, cool, and collected Stave was pushed to his limit.

    It's common practice for anti-abortion protesters to disseminate doctors' personal information and urge people to harass them—and it can clearly go far beyond that, as with the 2009 murder of George Tiller in Kansas. LeRoy Carhart, who's now in Stave's clinic, had his Nebraska farm burned to the ground back in 1991. But protesters in Maryland figured out they could start targeting Stave for owning the clinic's property. He was largely unfazed by this campaign, until last fall when they took it too far. On his daughter's first day in middle school, a large group of people protested outside her school, and then they showed up again for back-to-school night. They were naturally carrying signs with his name and contact info and those nasty pictures of fetuses.

    He was furious, and then it got even worse. Dozens of them began calling him at home, around the clock. His friends wanted to help him fight back, and that's when Stave had the brilliant idea of turning the tables on his tormentors. He began recording the names and numbers of the assholes who called, and then he gave the list of info to his friends and asked them to call these people back on his behalf. Shazam! And the really smart part was that when they called, they always took the high road. He explains,
    In a very calm, very respectful voice, they said that the Stave family thanks you for your prayers. They cannot terminate the lease, and they do not want to. They support women's rights.
    Genius. While it was initially only a few friends doing the calling, the group quickly expanded. Soon, he was up to having 1,000 callers at his disposal. And they got crafty too. They'd look up information on the people who'd placed unwanted calls to Stave, and then when they called, they'd drop the names of the person's children or their school into the conversation. They'd also, said Stave, "tell them that we bless their home on such and such street," and then name their address. Are you getting shivers up you're spine yet? Stave's calling force became so powerful that sometimes he was able to hammer an unwanted caller with up to 5,000 calls in return. Looks like two can play at this game, stalkers!

    Stave's approach was so appealing that he was flooded with people from all over wanting to help. So he organized Voice of Choice, which now has about 3,000 volunteers. They don't just fight back for Stave anymore. They'll make calls on behalf of whoever is being bullied by anti-abortion protesters—whether it's a doctor or a landlord or their family.

    When asked if he thought this method of payback was harsh, Stave said no: "We gave them back what they gave us." Actually, not even. You gave back a mild, family-friendly version of what they gave to you. You proved to them that you know where they live and who their children are, but you didn't show up at their homes and schools and threaten them. You didn't come onto their lawn with posters detailing terrible imaginary things that they've done. You're serving up Revenge Lite™: Tastes great, less killing.

    What's more, Stave is strict about who Voice for Choice will make calls for.

    If it's just run-of-the-mill protests outside clinics, he won't help them because he believes in people's First Amendment right to be out there saying what's on their mind. People need to be harassing doctors or landlords personally before he'll help. If only abortion opponents had the same respect for people doing what they were allowed by law to do. Ahem.

    So this is the part where the evil bullies who've plagued him (and others) at all hours of the day or night learn their lesson when Stave shoves a taste of their own medicine at them through the phone, right? Yep, yep. They all realized they were being horrible, and now every anti-abortion protester is treating their pro-choice opponents with the utmost respect. Hahaha, no.

    Actually this is the part in the story where it gets much worse. Ready?

    Okay, so since Voice for Change has been such a success, Stave was honored by NARAL in California last week. Knowing that he was away receiving the award, his personal band of haters chose that moment to canvass his neighborhood with fliers that had a photo of Stave in a Nazi uniform, photos of Holocaust victims, and bloody fetuses. [Pause for a brief rage-stroke intermission.] Of course, the fliers had Stave's contact information—and all of the phone numbers and addresses for other members of his family. First of all, that is so incredibly fucked up. The guy owns a building, not a concentration camp. Second of all, what kind of person picks up a flier like that and thinks, "I need to get in touch with this Nazi!" God help us all.

    Obviously his daughter and all of his neighbors saw the fliers, but the contact information for Stave's family members must have been spread around. Because on Monday a man showed up at the dental office that Stave's brother-in-law owns and began protesting abortion outside. That's such a great idea because I'm sure the random patient walking in for a cleaning is totally going to make the connection that the dentist's brother-in-law owns a building where there's an abortion clinic and therefore abortion is wrong? Anyway, Stave was back in town, so he went over to confront the man, and when he got there, the creep said, "How was your trip to San Francisco?" Deep inhale, slow exhale.

    It is amazing that people like Stave have fortitude to stand up to psychos like this coming at them from every direction, but thank heavens they do, because, honestly, the thought that these protesters get away with so much is sickening. It's hard to know where these nutcases will end when it comes to making Stave's life a living hell—but it's probably not going to get any better now that he's getting more and more national media attention.

    At least we know he's got plenty of backup from Voice of Choice. The worse these people get, the longer VoC can keep them on the phone, telling them all about the many "blessings and prayers" they're sending to their home addresses and to the locations of their children's daycare centers. Then everyone will be so busy making and receiving calls that they'll have less time to spend protesting outside clinics. And maybe in the future, we'll get to a magical place where both sides are talking to each other 100 percent of the time, and a woman will be able to walk right up to the front door of an abortion clinic without being harassed—because everyone will be so busy talking on the phone to their enemies to notice or care what she's choosing to do with her body.






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    What a brilliannt idea.
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    I think his way of turning the tables around is genius. He owns a freaking building! And then you go after his little girl? How fucking sick is that?

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    It's one thing to protest abortion clinics in general, but to target people loosely connected to the clinics *and* their families (children, ffs) is insane. Yet when they are called out on it, it's 'religious prosecution'.

    I'm willing to bet most of these people have never even read the bible. Or they missed the part where it says 'love thy neighbor'. Or where it says this:

    Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones Against the rock
    Psalm 137:9

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    Not being a good christian, I'm missing the meaning of 137 as it relates to abortion. It's about being taken in slavery and a call for vengeance against the Babylonians. And the Psalms aren't 'God's word', they were written by men.
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    It's all a bunch of sky fairy bullshit
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    of course. first clue- who ever heard of such a thing as a Jewish carpenter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Not being a good christian, I'm missing the meaning of 137 as it relates to abortion. It's about being taken in slavery and a call for vengeance against the Babylonians. And the Psalms aren't 'God's word', they were written by men.
    Just naming it as an example. It's just one of the passages I remember off the top of my head. The bible is full of metaphors that are open to interpretation. Everyone is apparently free to interpret what they read in the bible as they see fit, while completely ignoring parts they don't like.

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    The Voice of Choice people are heroes in my mind for going up against the right-winged religious wackos. Protesting outside a child's school? People like these wackjobs are the reason shit like the Spanish Inquisition, the European Witchhunts and Salem occured: bunch of unreasonable, paranoid, aggressive thugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Not being a good christian, I'm missing the meaning of 137 as it relates to abortion. It's about being taken in slavery and a call for vengeance against the Babylonians. And the Psalms aren't 'God's word', they were written by men.
    I think it proves that according to the bible it's OK to smash the heads of someone else's children, but you apparently can't meddle with the unborn ones of your own womenfolk.
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    Is there no such criminal offence as defamation in the US or is it all covered by freedom of speech? Printing pictures of this man in a Nazi uniform and implying he is some kind of evil killer can't be legal because it is a vicious lie. Is there really nothing he can legally do about it? They are stalking him and his family and he should get a restraining order. Damn, this makes me so angry.
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    The kids should be left out of it & it should be against the law for them to protest at schools. That was shameful.

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