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    Pa. vending machine dispenses 'morning-after' pill - Yahoo! News

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    Pa. vending machine dispenses 'morning-after' pill
    By KEVIN BEGOS | Associated Press 2 hrs 24 mins ago...

    Students at Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania can get the "morning-after" pill by sliding $25 into a vending machine, an idea that has drawn the attention of federal regulators and raised questions about how accessible emergency contraception should be.

    The student health center at Shippensburg, a secluded public institution of 8,300 students tucked between mountain ridges in the Cumberland Valley, provides the Plan B One Step emergency contraceptive in the vending machine along with condoms, decongestants and pregnancy tests.

    "I think it's great that the school is giving us this option," junior Chelsea Wehking said Tuesday. "I've heard some kids say they'd be too embarrassed" to go into town Shippensburg, permanent population about 6,000 and buy Plan B.

    Federal law makes the pill available without a prescription to anyone 17 or older, and the school checked records and found that all current students are that age or older, a spokesman said. It doesn't appear that any other vending machine in the U.S. dispenses the contraceptive, which can prevent pregnancy if taken soon after sexual intercourse.

    The machine has been in place for about two years, and its existence wasn't widely known until recently. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is contacting state officials and the university to gather facts, agency spokeswoman Stephanie Yao said Tuesday.

    The FDA's sudden interest took place amid a furor over religious rights and access to birth control. An official resigned from the nation's largest breast cancer charity Tuesday over Planned Parenthood funding, and Republican presidential candidates attacked the Obama administration for a recent ruling requiring church-affiliated employers to provide birth control.

    Consumers have long been able to insert a few coins for the likes of aspirin, ibuprofen, antacids and other common over-the-counter remedies. But some experts see a worrisome trend in making drugs like Plan B, which is kept behind the pharmacy counter, available in a vending machine.

    Alexandra Stern, a professor of the history of medicine at the University of Michigan, said she wasn't questioning a woman's right to have access to Plan B, but whether making it so easily available is a good idea.

    "Perhaps it is personalized medicine taken too far," she said. "It's part of the general trend that drugs are available for consumers without interface with a pharmacist or doctors. This trend has serious pitfalls."

    Taking Plan B within 72 hours of rape, condom failure or just forgetting regular contraception can cut the chances of pregnancy by up to 89 percent. It works best if taken within 24 hours. Some religious conservatives consider the emergency contraceptive tantamount to an abortion drug.

    The idea for a vending machine started at Shippensburg after a survey about health center services several years ago. Eighty-five percent of the respondents supported making Plan B available, school spokesman Peter Gigliotti said. The student government endorsed the idea.

    The machine is in the school's Etter Health Center, which only students and university employees can access, Gigliotti said in a statement. In addition, "no one can walk in off the street and go into the health center," he said; students must check in at a lobby desk before being allowed in.

    Students and administrators at Shippensburg said they're puzzled that a single vending machine at a small school has attracted such attention. Matthew Kanzler, a senior, said a lot of students at the school weren't even aware of the machine until recently.

    Most students do support the idea, he said but not all.

    "It's a way for students to get the help or care they need," he said, adding that students appreciate the on-campus health care because the school, about 130 miles from either Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, is so isolated.

    In December, the Obama administration's top health official overruled her own drug regulators and stopped the Plan B pill from moving onto drugstore shelves next to condoms and other items. It remains available behind pharmacy counters.

    Denise Bradley, a spokeswoman for Teva Pharmaceuticals, which makes Plan B, said in a statement that it sells the product only to "licensed pharmacies or other licensed healthcare clinics, which are required to follow federal guidelines for the distribution of pharmaceutical products."

    On whether the machine might violate the law, "I don't have a definite yes or no," said Ron Ruman, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, which oversees the state pharmacy board. If a person younger than 17 used the machine, it "potentially could be a violation," he said.

    The drug isn't covered or subsidized by the school. Its price at the vending machine is set by the school's cost to the pharmaceutical company and is less than at off-campus pharmacies.

    Deanne Hall, a professor at the University of Pittsburgh School of Pharmacy, noted that the ease of access to such a machine could be positive for many women, but wondered whether self-treatment might deter sexual assault victims from seeking medical attention.

    "This does open up a different door," she said.

    Rob Maher, a professor at the Duquesne University School of Pharmacy in Pittsburgh, said he had never heard of a vending machine dispensing Plan B, but noted that there have been vending machines in doctor's offices, and even a specialized machine designed to fill prescriptions.

    Still, he questioned whether the machine would make it possible for a young person to buy the drug without discussing their risk factors with a health care professional.

    "That's the big risk with a vending machine like this," he said.

    Carol Tobias, president of the anti-abortion group National Right to Life, said other services would be more appropriate.

    "It would be a much more productive use of funds if universities would partner with local pregnancy resource centers where students can get real help if they need it," Tobias said.

    Said Anna Franzonello, counsel to Americans United For Life: "Students at Shippensburg University deserve better than to have their administration represent the potent drug with life-ending potential as no more harmful than any other vending machine item."

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    Begos reported from Pittsburgh.
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    I don't know much about this drug but is it something that can be taken repeatedly? I'd be worried about these kids abusing it and hurting themselves in some way.

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    On one hand, I'm thinkong this is awesome. Easy, anonymous and affordable. On the other hand... could this be too easy? 'Now I won't have to use condoms!'

    And of course, what CornflakeGrl said, what's the danger of someone taking this too often?


    Eta: Also, there's the Magic Milkshake thing. This could encourage more guys to slip this to a girl without her knowing.

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    This is a high dose of the birth control pills, that is all. I would be more concerned about STD's due to so much unprotected sex.
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    The article doesn't say if there are any other items available from that vending machine, but if there aren't any condoms in that machine there should be.


    Are condom vending machines common in the states? I know in a lot of European countries they're common in public toilets, clubs, bars and even schools.

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    ^^ The article does list other items for sale.

    The student health center at Shippensburg, a secluded public institution of 8,300 students tucked between mountain ridges in the Cumberland Valley, provides the Plan B One Step emergency contraceptive in the vending machine along with condoms, decongestants and pregnancy tests.

    I support this. Over winter break, my daughter took her friend to the pharmacy to buy Plan B because the condom broke the night before. She was almost too afraid to go in a buy it so my daughter and another friend went with her. It cost $50. It comes with full instructions. It can be used over and over but I doubt people want to do it over and over. It's expensive and has some side effects like heavy bleeding.
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    Alexandra Stern, a professor of the history of medicine at the University of Michigan, said she wasn't questioning a woman's right to have access to Plan B, but whether making it so easily available is a good idea.

    "Perhaps it is personalized medicine taken too far," she said. "It's part of the general trend that drugs are available for consumers without interface with a pharmacist or doctors. This trend has serious pitfalls."
    i agree with this.
    i'm actually surprised that this is available so freely in the states. you have to go to a doctor and then to a pharmacy to get it here. and that's the right way, imo. i remember my friend taking it when she was 14 and she was miserable after taking it (kept throwing up and collapsing) so i don't think somebody would use this as an alternative to condoms, but i think pharmaceuticals in general should be ordered by doctors and should only be available at pharmacies.

    they said they did it because the school is so isolated - does that mean there are no doctors or pharmacies around?
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    This is a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's rare, but serious complications can happen and there have been a handful of deaths. Sure its still less hazardous than pregnancy, but I don't think it should be as easy to access as ibuprofen.
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    ^ I agree with you. I don't think it's a good idea. Condom machines are a much better idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    This is a lawsuit waiting to happen. It's rare, but serious complications can happen and there have been a handful of deaths. Sure its still less hazardous than pregnancy, but I don't think it should be as easy to access as ibuprofen.
    It's already that easy to buy. You just go into any pharmacy and buy it. No need to talk to a doctor or pharmacist. I believe the abortion pill has different standards though?
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    There is an extra step. You have to go to a pharmacy and ask for it because its behind the counter. Not that that is difficult, but it is another layer, moreso than grabbing a bottle of Motrin off a shelf. I do believe it should be accessible, just not quite as accessible as a vending machine.

    The RU-486 still requires a prescription, I'm fairly certain that anyone over 17 can get Plan B without a prescription.
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    Shit, I can't even get Claritan D without asking the pharmacist and signing a paper.

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    What, you have to promise not to make meth out of it? Bwahahaha!
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    Exactly. And as I stand there getting the hairy eyeball from some pharma tech, I starting thinking "don't scratch your head. don't do it. goddamn it, my foot itches. don't twitch." Suddenly I'm in full on tourettes mode and I don't even have tourettes.

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    It's my understanding that you have to go the pharmacy window just because you do have to show ID that you are at least 17. They did not ask any questions of my daughter's friend or give her any extra info. They just checked her license and took her money. Since the school has confirmed every student is at least 17, and no one else can access they area where the machine is located, they have already done the same process as a pharmacy.
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