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    Oh GEEZ. If I had a pound for every time someone called me 'pet,' 'love,' or 'flower,' I'd be RICH. It's not offensive.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/4360170.stm

    Women are no longer ladies and older people are never senior citizens, according to equality officials at Hull City Council.
    Council workers were stunned, and many offended, when they received an email warning them to mind their language.

    In a list of unacceptable terms, girls, elderly, pet and love appeared next to words already widely recognised as being offensive, racist or homophobic.

    The council has since said it should not have banded the terms together.

    The guide to 'professionally appropriate language' was issued on behalf of the corporate equalities manager Julie Thomson.

    It advises that traditional northern greetings such as duck, flower, dear or sweetheart are unacceptable and women should only ever be referred to as women.

    'Offended and amused'

    Likewise, older people are never senior citizens or wrinklies and disabled people should not be called wheelchair bound or infirm.

    Liberal Democrat leader Carl Minns said the guide was a classic example of political correctness gone mad.

    "My initial reaction was a mixture of being quite offended and quite amused," he said.

    "I was offended because it was a blanket email and the implication was that I'm using inappropriate language and amused because it's a typical silly season story.

    "But I think that by putting really offensive language next to words like ladies and elderly it cheapens the effect.

    "Any public organisation has to have a set of standards where it treats people courteously and efficiently but the way to do that is to treat people as individuals and be sensible about it," he said.

    The council said the guide was based on a manual published by the TUC and Unison, entitled Diversity in Diction, Equality in Action.

    "The guide highlighted older descriptions that have been, or are being, phased out of common use, as well as derogatory terms that are wholly unacceptable," a spokeswoman said.

    "There is obviously a world of difference between these terms and the council accepts that these should not have been banded together under one 'catch all' heading of 'unacceptable'."

    The acting head of equalities Alan McKenzie has since written to everyone who received the email to apologise "unreservedly".

    "Clearly it caused offence to many people and for that I can only apologise."

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    oh *fuck* off

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    So you're supposed to say "good morning, women." to a group of.. well, ladies?
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    Who the hell knows. The language police are definitely ON PATROL. I'm sick of political correctness.

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    hey you group of human beings, someone telephone the low atmosphere commodoties conveyor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVZ View Post
    hey you group of human beings, someone telephone the low atmosphere commodoties conveyor.

    What the hell is a low atmosphere commodities conveyor?

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    stewardess.

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    Talking about words to call girls, as a non-native English speaker I find most of them lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVZ View Post
    stewardess.

    LOL...aren't they called "flight attendants" now?

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    i have no idea. seems anything you say will offend someone now-a-days.

    i just like to snap my fingers at them and grunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryJane View Post
    Talking about words to call girls, as a non-native English speaker I find most of them lovely.

    Some people find it patronizing to be called 'duck,' 'love,' or 'flower,' but it's really not the end of the world. Any time we have builders in the house, they call me 'pet' or 'love' instead of "Mrs. So-and-so," but that's just the way they are. It's no big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVZ View Post
    i have no idea. seems anything you say will offend someone now-a-days.

    i just like to snap my fingers at them and grunt.

    They don't like that. One of my second cousins was a flight attendant for the same airline that my dad's cousin is VP of during her summers off from college, and she didn't like to be snapped at.

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    i'm kidding

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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptivehair View Post
    Some people find it patronizing to be called 'duck,' 'love,' or 'flower,' but it's really not the end of the world. Any time we have builders in the house, they call me 'pet' or 'love' instead of "Mrs. So-and-so," but that's just the way they are. It's no big deal.
    Actually "duck" - always as a non-native English speaker! - would weird me out though!
    I guess it also depends a lot on the context these terms are used, and on the relationship between the speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryJane View Post
    Actually "duck" - always as a non-native English speaker! - would weird me out though!
    I guess it also depends a lot on the context these terms are used, and on the relationship between the speakers.

    I thought it was weird at first, but I'm Texan and I'm used to being called "sweetheart," "cupcake," "dumpling," etc. I wouldn't like it at work, but out in the real world it doesn't bother me very much. There are much more important things to worry about.

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