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Old March 14th, 2006, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Man says 'hand gesture' not obscene.

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PITTSBURGH Mar 14, 2006 (AP)— A motorist believes the constitutional right to free speech includes obscene hand gestures.

Thomas Burns, of New Castle, contends he was denied his First Amendment free speech rights when he was cited for giving an obscene hand gesture to a construction worker in April, according to a federal lawsuit filed Monday in Pittsburgh.

Burns had become frustrated with a traffic delay and showed the gesture at a construction worker. The worker reported it to a police officer, who cited Burns for disorderly conduct, according to the lawsuit.

The citation was dropped, but Burns filed a lawsuit because he believes he was maliciously prosecuted.

The "finger gesture was not accompanied by any verbal threats, taunting or communication and was never visible to anyone other than the workers," the lawsuit states. "The gesture, albeit insulting, had no sexual meaning, did not appeal to anyone's prurient interest, and did not create a public disturbance or breach of peace."

The chief of the police department that cited Burns in Center Township, Beaver County declined comment Tuesday, saying he hadn't had a chance to discuss the case with the department's attorney.

In recent years, Pennsylvania courts have ruled that the gesture doesn't automatically constitute disorderly conduct, because it is not "obscene" as defined by the law, unless it is used in a clearly sexual context.

I absolutely agree that flipping someone the finger is not obscene. It is, in fact, one of the best and most direct forms of communication I know. But what I really want to know is this: how could it be used in a sexual context? Wouldn't he have to actually touch the construction worker for that to happen?
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Old June 2nd, 2006, 01:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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if you kissed your extended middle finger it would be kinda lude, ya know?
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Old June 2nd, 2006, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Man says 'hand gesture' not obscene.

I agree Buttmunch, and always wondered what the big freaking deal was.

I think the guy may be on to something here....
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Old June 4th, 2006, 03:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Isn't that the Hawaiian good luck sign?
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Old June 4th, 2006, 04:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Ridiculous. If they arrested every driver flipping the finger, the jails would fill up in like ten minutes.
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Old June 6th, 2006, 01:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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this just sounds like a certain cop needed to reach his quota for the month
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