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    Florida gave Samantha Burton's "unborn child" its own doctor and legal representation,while she got nothing
    By Kate Harding

    In Florida, the state can override parents' right to make medical decisions for their own children "to ensure that children receive medical treatment which is necessary for the preservation of their life and health." Given the number of children who have died of curable illnesses because their parents' religious beliefs prevented them from seeking treatment, I can't argue with that. But what about when that "child" is actually a fetus, and protecting its best interests means violating a grown woman's privacy, liberty and right to make her own medical decisions? You guessed it: At least one court decided that the woman's constitutional rights should be suspended to protect her "unborn child."
    In March 2009, Samantha Burton was 25 weeks pregnant and at risk of miscarrying. A doctor ordered bedrest, but Burton, who had two small children and a job she depended on, said that would be impossible. So the doctor asked the State to intervene and, according to a brief (PDF) filed by the ACLU on Burton's behalf -- the case is currently before the First District Court of Appeals -- "At the State's request, the Circuit Court, Leon County, ordered Ms. Burton to be indefinitely confined, which had her pregnancy gone to term would have been up to fifteen weeks, to Tallahassee Memorial Hospital and to submit, against her will, to any and all medical treatments, restrictions to bedrest, and other interventions, including cesarean section delivery, that in the words of the court, 'the unborn child's attending physician' deemed necessary 'to preserve the life and health of Samantha Burton's unborn child.'" As it happened, Burton was there for three days before the doctors ordered an emergency C-section, only to learn that the fetus had already died.
    Can we just take a moment to meditate on the phrase "unborn child's attending physician"? Because oh my god. The fetus gets its own doctor and court protection, but Samantha Burton can just piss off. At the ACLU's Blog of Rights, Diana Kasdan writes that the hearing was carried out with no legal representation for Burton, and when Burton later asked the court if she could at least switch hospitals (Tallahassee Memorial is where she met the doctor who decided he knew what was best for her fetus), she was denied. So, to review, the state took away her right to refuse medical advice, to seek a second opinion, to choose whether to be hospitalized at all and, once that was out the window, to choose where. Essentially, the state abducted and imprisoned a woman against her will, all in the name of fetus' rights -- which, you know, aren't actually a thing. As the ACLU brief says, "To ignore this fundamental constitutional distinction between the state interest in protecting fetal life and its interest in protecting the lives and health of people is to risk virtually unfettered intrusion into the lives of pregnant women." But hey, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission -- am I right, state of Florida?

    Writes Kasdan,

    Frankly, I wasn't surprised to hear that the State of Florida had stepped in to override the medical decision-making of a pregnant woman -- unfortunately we have seen that before. What was even more stunning than in other cases was the unlimited breadth of the court order; the complete lack of any consideration of Ms. Burton's constitutional rights or health; and the fact that the hearing had gone forward with no legal or other advocate to represent Ms. Burton...

    This view is not only blatantly unconstitutional, it is dangerous. It is hard to imagine any worse approach to helping pregnant women have safe pregnancies and healthy newborns than the one used by the State of Florida in Ms. Burton's case. This is immediately apparent to any woman who has ever been pregnant and any person who has ever supported a family member or a loved one through a pregnancy, especially a difficult pregnancy. It is evident to medical organizations like the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Medical Association, which uniformly oppose the use of coercive measures during pregnancy.
    It's immediately apparent to any person who can recognize the difference between a human being and an incubator, in fact. But apparently, an inability to make that distinction won't prevent you from becoming a judge.

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    OMFG, I don't even know where to begin on what to say! This is utterly outrageous.
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    Wow, that is blatantly unconstitutional bullshit. The judge who ordered this has got to be slapped down big-time. They treated this woman like an incompetent criminal, and she didn't even get to have representation? Shocking.
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    I am so very frightened of the ridiculous turn our country has taken in the last 10 years. Big brother has taken over and the ones screaming loudest about their personal freedoms are the ones who are the first to subjugate mine and yours.

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    Unless they're going to pay her rent and hire a sitter for her kids they should shut the fuck up. And that's on top of the fact that they have no right to tell her what to do in this situation. Un-fucking-believable. This is just another inroad into abortion rights, by the way. If you can give a fetus an attending physician then you can say it's a separate entity from the mother and therefore has rights of it's own.
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    Terrifying. We desperately need a women's rights movement. First these people try to smear and ridicule feminism then they strip women of their rights as human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Terrifying. We desperately need a women's rights movement. First these people try to smear and ridicule feminism then they strip women of their rights as human beings.
    Well, they start by creating this ad campaign that touts feminists as ugly, hairy, man hating, lesbians who only care about women's issues because they can't get a man themselves. You know, because if you are hot and desireable enough to make men lust after you then you wont even care about silly shit like equal pay, reporoductive freedom, sexual assault, social double standards, etc. The campaign has been very successful and young women who say they believe in equal rights will also be quick to add "but I'm not a feminist or anything". That way they can seem like modern gals but not scare of the fellas. It silences women from speaking up about things like this for fear of being made fun of for being 'one of those'.
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