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Old November 6th, 2009, 07:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Mexico boy tells 911 operator he shot father in anger

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NM boy tells 911 operator he shot father in anger

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -"Just get a doctor over here!" the desperate 10-year-old boy begs a 911 operator. "Please hurry up. It looks like he's dying."
A recording of a six-minute 911 call obtained Thursday by the Associated Press details the moments that Aug. 27 night after the boy allegedly shot his father in the head with a shotgun.
His father, 42-year-old Bryon Hilburn, was on the floor inside, still breathing, when police at the family's home in Belen, just south of Albuquerque. He died later that night at a hospital.
Now, the boy faces a charge of first-degree murder.
The district attorney filed charges against the boy Tuesday. He cannot face adult sanctions because New Mexico law says a child must be 14 or older to be tried as an adult for murder. The boy remains in the custody of his mother. His name is being withheld because of his age.
During the 911 call, the boy's desperation and concern was interrupted at times with frustration as the operator tried to figure out what had happened.
"I need a doctor. My dad's dying," the boy first tells the operator. The boy gets confused when the operator asks for the home's address. He tells her he will check on the mailbox and tells her his father is bleeding badly and "he fell asleep."
Then in a panicked voice as he breathed heavily, the boy gets further agitated when asked his father's age.
"I don't know. Just come and get him out of here!" he demands.
When the operator asked the boy if he knew what happened, the boy told her he shot his father out of anger.
"I was so over my head. I shot him in the back of the head. I got so angry at him," the boy says two minutes into the call. "Oh, please hurry."
The boy's attention then turns to his sister.
"Don't worry," he gently tells the girl before telling the operator: "Oh, my sister's crying her head off ... I think I hear the sirens."
When asked where the gun is, the boy tells the operator it's in "my dad's gun closet."
The boy can then be heard yelling to officers who arrived at the scene.
"Hurry! My dad!" he shouts at them as the call ends.
Hilburn was divorced and had custody of the boy and his two siblings. The boy's siblings have been staying with relatives following the shooting.
The state's Children, Youth and Families Department reports that state officials received nine calls regarding the family on a department hot line used to report possible child abuse or neglect. Officials substantiated only one claim involving the boy's mother.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 06:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old November 7th, 2009, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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And THAT is why guns should not be in a home.
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Wow... I wonder if the little kid just snapped or if maybe there was some provocation on the dads part. Either way this is fucking tragic. Those kids are going to be emotionally scarred for life.
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Oh yeah. It was all because of the guns.
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Well a young child, who is acting out (provoked or not) and having a tantrum is unlikely to kill his father if he doesn't have access to a loaded gun, no?
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Wow... I wonder if the little kid just snapped or if maybe there was some provocation on the dads part. Either way this is fucking tragic. Those kids are going to be emotionally scarred for life.
I find it kind of strange that his reason for shooting was that "I just got in over my head." That doesn't sound like the typical thing a 9-year-old would say. I think the boy has some kind of anger issues. I also thought it was kind of weird how aggressive he was with the 911 operator ("A few minutes ago. Hurry up!" and "I don't know, just hurry, get over here! ") Poor 6-year-old sister. At least she didn't see him shoot the father in the first place.
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Well a young child, who is acting out (provoked or not) and having a tantrum is unlikely to kill his father if he doesn't have access to a loaded gun, no?
If young child acting out and having a tantrum even gives serious consideration to killing his father, then actually carries it out, there's something wrong that has nothing to do with guns. Guns only make it slightly easier than the plethora of other weapons he could find in the household in a pinch. I guess the father has more of a fighting chance in a pinch if there's no gun used.

But hey! Let's get rid of all guns. Then we can take our time with the whole "why kid wants to kill his father" issue, or ignore it entirely.
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I find it kind of strange that his reason for shooting was that "I just got in over my head." That doesn't sound like the typical thing a 9-year-old would say. I think the boy has some kind of anger issues. I also thought it was kind of weird how aggressive he was with the 911 operator ("A few minutes ago. Hurry up!" and "I don't know, just hurry, get over here! ") Poor 6-year-old sister. At least she didn't see him shoot the father in the first place.
Well a kid can be conditioned to be aggressive depending on his environment (even though phenotype has a lot to do with aggressive personality traits... in this case, I wouldn't doubt that he was a carrier of such a trait if his dad had anger and impulse issues, too). If the dad was abusive and aggressive towards him and his sister I wouldn't doubt that aggressive behavior would be very salient given his living environment. Just a vicious cycle, like they say. It's so sad.
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It is not "aggressive" to be impatient with 911 operators when someone is dying in front of you and they go through their checklist.
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It is not "aggressive" to be impatient with 911 operators when someone is dying in front of you and they go through their checklist.
When I look at the transcript, there is a lot of ordering-the-operator-around kind of language. Not the kind of dialog I would expect from a young kid talking to an adult. Often he sounds like he's barking orders -- not pleading with her to please save his dad.
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If young child acting out and having a tantrum even gives serious consideration to killing his father, then actually carries it out, there's something wrong that has nothing to do with guns. Guns only make it slightly easier than the plethora of other weapons he could find in the household in a pinch. I guess the father has more of a fighting chance in a pinch if there's no gun used.

But hey! Let's get rid of all guns. Then we can take our time with the whole "why kid wants to kill his father" issue, or ignore it entirely.
Stop making so much sense!

That boy obviously has serious issues.
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And THAT is why guns should not be in a home.
I think it's an even better argument for why there should be no kids in the home.
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it sounds like the boy has probably never actually understood the concept of death until now. Sure we know what death means, but as we get older we live through that experience of losing friends or loved ones.
But it sounds like the kid watched too many movies, acted on impulse, and then had an 'oh shit 911 moment', which is why the things quoted of him saying on the phone seem a little off.

If it had been the result of abuse and the son was inventive, he would have been thinking enough to flee, in my opinion.
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I find it kind of strange that his reason for shooting was that "I just got in over my head." That doesn't sound like the typical thing a 9-year-old would say. I think the boy has some kind of anger issues. I also thought it was kind of weird how aggressive he was with the 911 operator ("A few minutes ago. Hurry up!" and "I don't know, just hurry, get over here! ") Poor 6-year-old sister. At least she didn't see him shoot the father in the first place.
Yes, it sounds like something a person would say in a movie, that's what I mean by 'off', followed by his "Everything will be fine" mentaily. "oh just get a doctor here, he'll fix things right as rain" sort of behavior.

I don't mean to sound like a cop out and blame the media, but people have different grasps on reality and it sounds like he was still too young to understand.
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