October 28th, 2009, 02:57 AM
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Christian woman may sue after police investigate 'gay hate crime' letter
A woman who complained about a gay Pride march in Norwich has said she may sue the police and local council after she was investigated for possible hate crime.
Pauline Howe, 67, wrote the letter to Norwich city council to complain about a Pride march she saw.
In the letter, she described gays as "sodomites". She added that homosexuality had "contributed to the downfall of every empire" and was a major cause of sexually transmitted infections.
Howe added: "It is shameful that this small, but vociferous lobby should be allowed such a display unwarranted by the minimal number of homosexuals."
She was then warned in a letter from Bridget Buttinger, the council's deputy chief executive, that she could face charges for hate crime.
Buttinger wrote: "The content of your letter has been assessed as potentially being hate related because of the views you expressed towards people of a certain sexual orientation."
The council then passed Howe's details to the police and she was interviewed at her home by two officers who later decided that no crime had been committed.
Howe told the Sunday Telegraph she was not homophobic but was merely expressing her Christian beliefs.
She has now contacted the Christan Institute for advice and is considering whether to take legal action.
Christian woman may sue after police investigate ‘gay hate crime’ letter - from Pink News - all the latest gay news from the gay community - Pink News#
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October 28th, 2009, 08:24 AM
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This was a massive and dangerous over reaction by the council. She was exercising free speech which is the most important element of any democracy. Here is what Outfront UK said in response:
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That this woman has loony views is without question, but that the Bridget Buttinger from the Council threatened her and that she was interviewed by the police under the guise of protecting gay people from hate crimes is absurd and dangerous, and only serves to give fodder to the anti-gay and far right agenda as promoted by groups like the Christian Institute and the BNP.
The Council should have replied to saying that the same right that protects her writing her letter is the same right that allows the gay pride march to go ahead. She should be allowed to stand on the pavement as the march goes by and scream anti-gay obscenities till she is hoarse, such is the importance of free speech.
The fact that she was investigated for expressing her views gives the far right forces that want to destroy democratic values the ammunition they need. The fault lies squarely with Bridget Buttinger and other unelected officials in public bodies that are misinterpreting the laws to protect people against speech that incites violence and undermining the most valuable weapon against extremism, free speech.
You can tell Bridget Buttinger what you think of her actions by contacting her.
01603 212066 or email bridgetbuttinger@norwich.gov.uk
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OUTfrontUK: The woman who fails to protect free speech emboldens the anti-gay agenda
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October 28th, 2009, 03:22 PM
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AHAHAHAHHA Norwich is not only what is visually the arse of Britain but it's also infamously a really backwards and inbred crackhole. This doesn't suprise me.
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October 28th, 2009, 04:07 PM
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Let's see if Wiseguy will feel the same way after I edit it.
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"A woman who complained about a Black Pride march in Norwich has said she may sue the police and local council after she was investigated for possible hate crime.
Pauline Howe, 67, wrote the letter to Norwich city council to complain about a Black Pride march she saw.
In the letter, she described blacks as "niggers". She added that blacks had "contributed to the downfall of every empire" and was a major cause of sexually transmitted infections.
Howe added: "It is shameful that this small, but vociferous lobby should be allowed such a display unwarranted by the minimal number of blacks."
She was then warned in a letter from Bridget Buttinger, the council's deputy chief executive, that she could face charges for hate crime.
Buttinger wrote: "The content of your letter has been assessed as potentially being hate related because of the views you expressed towards people of a certain race."
The council then passed Howe's details to the police and she was interviewed at her home by two officers who later decided that no crime had been committed.
Howe told the Sunday Telegraph she was not racist but was merely expressing her Christian beliefs.
She has now contacted the Christan Institute for advice and is considering whether to take legal action."
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Fuck her, fuck her "christian beliefs" and fuck anybody who agrees with her. It's only alright because gays are still somewhat acceptable to kick around.
Hate speech laws exist for a reason, to keep bitches like this SILENT like they should be.
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October 28th, 2009, 04:52 PM
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Let's see if Wiseguy will feel the same way after I edit it.
Fuck her, fuck her "christian beliefs" and fuck anybody who agrees with her. It's only alright because gays are still somewhat acceptable to kick around.
Hate speech laws exist for a reason, to keep bitches like this SILENT like they should be.
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Well I kind of have some split views on this, what with our 'Free Speech' legacy and all here, and your 'Hate speech" laws in Canada. I can see both sides. But anyway, I LOVE the 'rewording' of the text-always a good way to let people see how it really is.
I do not think she would be guilty of breaking any laws here in the US even if she was talking about blacks instead of gays, but putting it in that perspective does show how tawdry, narrowminded, and ..well..fucked up her views are.
Fuck that poisonous old bitch. Right in the ass, like a good Sodomite(as if sodomy is performed only by gays...right!!!  ).
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October 28th, 2009, 05:00 PM
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Let's see if Wiseguy will feel the same way after I edit it.
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Like I said, Grimm - it's free speech. It's something I'd be prepared to fight and die for. You have reworded things to emphasize your point, but at the end of the day, this woman expressed her point of view in a letter and she has the right to do that.
What are you proposing? That people get thrown in jail for this kind of thing????
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October 28th, 2009, 05:00 PM
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She sounds batshit. That picture made me lol. How British getting her to pose with a tea cup!
Back to the story, I think I'm with Grimm on this one. But I can see the free speech side too. Hm..
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October 28th, 2009, 05:04 PM
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To be fair, that dried up old prune has probably never even looked a cock in the eye, much less sucked one. She comes from a time when people turned the lights out and broads closed their eyes, laid there and prayed their husbands would be "quick". But she'll be dead soon and then we can all (gay and straight) celebrate with lots of cock waving. Or buttfucking, if that's your bag.
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October 28th, 2009, 05:06 PM
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Like I said, Grimm - it's free speech. It's something I'd be prepared to fight and die for. You have reworded things to emphasize your point, but at the end of the day, this woman expressed her point of view in a letter and she has the right to do that.
What are you proposing? That people get thrown in jail for this kind of thing????
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She would be fine here in the US-but other nations have hate 'Speech" laws..nations like Canada..and she could face prosecution in nations like that if she lived there. No KKK marches andPhelps protested allowed in Canada like it is here. It is an interesting question...should we have 'hate speech' laws here? Our right to 'free speech' is already compromised in many ways..no threatening the Prez or yelling fire in a crowded theater...this could be just an extension of that..
what do you think?
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October 28th, 2009, 05:07 PM
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Like I said, Grimm - it's free speech. It's something I'd be prepared to fight and die for. You have reworded things to emphasize your point, but at the end of the day, this woman expressed her point of view in a letter and she has the right to do that.
What are you proposing? That people get thrown in jail for this kind of thing????
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Thrown in jail for being a bigoted, racist, antisemitic piece of shit? No. Inciting people to violence against people of other races, creeds, colors, sexual orientations or otherwise? Oh yes.
That's what hate speech covers and she's skirting quite close to it with the whole "gays bring doom to the planet" shit and then trying to hide behind Jesus like a piece of shit coward.
I have no time or patience for these freaks. They just want to hate SOMETHING and if their target suddenly vanishes, they'll pick something or someone else. They're abhorrent. Animals.
They're the ones that bring down civilizations with their hatred, and if i had my way these people would be locked in fucking institutions.
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October 28th, 2009, 05:09 PM
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To be fair, that dried up old prune has probably never even looked a cock in the eye, much less sucked one. She comes from a time when people turned the lights out and broads closed their eyes, laid there and prayed their husbands would be "quick". But she'll be dead soon and then we can all (gay and straight) celebrate with lots of cock waving. Or buttfucking, if that's your bag.
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Naw, I just KNOW that old hag has had a cock in her mouth at some time...I can just tell it!  Old nasty hubby probably told her it was her 'wifely duty' and she had to 'submit' or some such old shit.
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October 28th, 2009, 05:11 PM
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Thrown in jail for being a bigoted, racist, antisemitic piece of shit? No. Inciting people to violence against people of other races, creeds, colors, sexual orientations or otherwise? Oh yes.
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Exactly. In this particular case, she lodged a hateful and homophobic complaint, but she wasn't inciting violence. This should be covered under free speech, even as abhorrent as it is. Hell, we have Holocaust deniers, people who still think interracial marriage is wrong, etc. I find their views absolutely repugnant but I don't think we should censor them unless they start inciting violence. People are free to their views, however close-minded and stupid they are.
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Naw, I just KNOW that old hag has had a cock in her mouth at some time...I can just tell it!  Old nasty hubby probably told her it was her 'wifely duty' and she had to 'submit' or some such old shit.
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 As much as I hate to think about this, you're probably right! I never doubt a gay male's cockwhoremouth instincts.
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October 28th, 2009, 05:36 PM
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 As much as I hate to think about this, you're probably right! I never doubt a gay male's cockwhoremouth instincts.
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I first read that as 'gay male whore's cockmouth instincts'-and I was NOT offended!
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October 28th, 2009, 06:07 PM
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What the fuck is so wrong in being gay that this granny cannot live in the same city with them and how does love between two people make empires fall?
And like she has never taken it in the ass. Wasn't that the way to not get pregnant in the old days.
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