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Old August 22nd, 2009, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fathima Rifqa Bary


On July 19, Fathima Rifqa Bary, 17 hopped aboard a bus in Ohio and ran away to Florida. She did so because of the alleged abuse she has suffered at the hands of her father, as well as her fear that he will soon kill her.
Fathima was placed in foster care by the Florida Department of Children and Families, rather than send her back to Ohio with her parents, Judge Daniel Dawson has scheduled a hearing for September 3, at which time a dependency petition will be argued.
In a Youtube video, Fathima explains why she had to run away.
"I'm a Christian, and my parents are Muslim. They are extremely devout. They threatened to kill me. … You guys wouldn't understand. Islam is very different than you guys think. They have to kill me. My blood is now halal, which means that because I am now a Christian, I'm from a Muslim background, it's an honor. If they love God more than me, they have to do this. I'm fighting for my life. ..."
She also described the note she left for her parents: "I said, 'I refuse to deny Jesus. He is my Lord and Savior. I pray you find his forgiveness and mercy, and I love you both dearly.' I wrote that, but they never showed it to the police officers."
As to what finally made her leave the abusive home, Fathima said: "I was threatened by my dad. When my dad found out – I had a Facebook, that's how he found out – and phone calls from the Muslim community started coming in with e-mails that confronted me. And I had a laptop and he took that laptop and waved it in the air, and he was about to beat me with it, and he said, 'If you have this Jesus in your heart, you're dead to me. You're not my daughter.' And I refused to speak but he said, 'I will kill you. Tell me the truth.' In these words, bad words, cuss words. So I knew that I had to get away."
Dr. Phyllis Chesler, an expert on the subject of so-called ‘honor killings,‘ told Fox News: "Anyone who converts from Islam is considered an apostate, and apostasy is a capital crime. If she is returned to her family, if she is lucky, they will isolate her, beat her, threaten her, and if she is not 'presuaded' to return to Islam, they will kill her. They have no choice."
In a chilling statement, Fathima said that she is the first person in 150 generations of her family to accept Jesus…"I am the first one. Imagine the honor in killing me."
Of course, Fathima would not be the first young woman murdered by her Islamic family, the practice known as ‘honor killing’ is accepted by the Muslim world. In fact, it would not even be the first such case to occur in the United States.
In February 2009, in Orchard Park, NY, Muslim television executive Muzzamil Hassan, was arrested and charged with murder, after allegedly beheading his wife Aasiya.
After several incidents of domestic abuse, Aasiya Hassan filed for divorce, and secured an order of protection against her husband. A few days after divorce papers were filed, she was beheaded. Her remains were left in the offices of the television station she and her husband owned, near Buffalo.
Muzzamil Hassan has been held without bail since his arrest, and is currently awaiting trial.
Despite the horrific nature of this crime, Aasiya Hassan’s murder has received very little media attention.
On New Years Day 2008, in Irving, TX, two Muslim girls, Amina Said, 18, and her sister Sarah, 17, were allegedly shot to death by their father Yaser, in an apparent “honor killing.” Amina had been accepted to Texas A&M University, and was planning to become a doctor.
Their father was enraged because the two girls had boyfriends.
Shortly after the murders, the girls’ aunt, Gail Gartrell, told reporters, “This was an honor killing.” She said that Yaser Said had been physically abusing the girls, and upon discovering the pair had boyfriends, he had threatened to kill them. Their mother took the girls and ran. “She ran with them,” said Gartrell, “because she knew he would carry out the threat.”
Yaser Said is still at large.
In 2005, a Kuwaiti man confessed to the murder of his own teen aged daughter, he believed that the girl was having sex. The father, Adnan Enezi, had just returned from a pilgrimage to Mecca, the day he killed his daughter.
He tied and blindfolded 14-year-old Haifa, then slit her throat. He did this in front of her two brothers and one sister. As it turned out, the girl was in fact still a virgin, as was determined in an autopsy.

In 2003, a Jordanian man was sentenced to one year in prison, for the murder of his own sister. The young woman became pregnant as a result of being raped by a neighbor. Her family then decided that she must marry the rapist. Before the forced marriage could take place, word of the pregnancy spread throughout the community. The woman's brother returned from a trip to slurs and jeers, his male friends were calling him the "brother of a slut."

According to the Jordan Times, the man was so angry with his sister over the fact that she had been raped and impregnated, he slipped into her room at night and strangled her with a telephone cord.

The Jordanian paper published excerpts of the court's rulings. They are as follows: "The victim's actions were an unlawful and dangerous act that brought disgrace and shame to her family. He (the brother) could no longer control himself and became very angry. It does not matter that the defendant killed his sister hours after returning from Aqaba. He was still under the influence of extreme anger, which caused him to lose his ability because of the unlawful act committed by his sister."
The United Nations reports that there are at least 5,000 so-called ‘honor killings’ by Muslim families throughout the world.

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Old August 22nd, 2009, 09:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is sickening. I abhor the way these females are being treated. They need to arrest the father of this girl for domestic violence for starters. More needs to be done to protect females from these disgusting "honor killings" which is nothing less than murder.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is serious. They had better hide her-now and forever.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 10:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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And this is happening in the U.S. (not that it's excusable anywhere). Did these wankers bring out the old "it's a cultural thing" excuse?

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Old August 22nd, 2009, 10:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Religion is fucking stupid
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 10:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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^^^It's times like this that I can understand people having this kind of reaction. But to be fair, "honor killings" only happen in the Muslim faith and all other faiths are repulsed by it.
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uhhuh, and how many kids are offed by their parents who claim jebus told them to do it, and how many clinics are bombed by religious nutjobs preaching jebus, and how many people are twisted, abused, assaulted in the name of jebus

Religion.

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^^^Don't know. But there are nutjobs in every element of society.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 07:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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It's fucking wingnut families across the religious spectrum who feel that domestic violence and controlling young women to the point of murder who are an issue. Honour killing? It's a term used when a Muslim family murders a woman, but what's it called when a Christian, or Jewish or Atheist family murder's a woman? And for what? For the same reasons, sexuality, defiance, control.

I hate that this shit always gets focused on one religion. I've worked with abused women and I can tell you, there are plenty of women from all religions who are under threat of death to shape up and act how their men want them to, not just Muslim women. Yet everyone including abused women are wiping their brows thinking they're safe from "honour killings". WTF ever.
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I hate that this shit always gets focused on one religion.
^^^Oh please. That's because it primarily happens in one religion!! This is a separate issue completely to domestic violence. "Honor killings" are where the females are murdered in their thousands every year. In many cases, the men who kill them are exempt from penalty. Please supply examples to back up your claim that honor killings happen in this large degree in other faiths. The UN report from 2002 states that honor killings had been reported in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Pakistan, the Syrian Arab Republic, Turkey, Yemen, and other Mediterranean and Persian Gulf countries, and that they had also taken place in western countries such as France, Germany and the United Kingdom, within migrant communities." It is BY FAR a practice that primarily occurs in the Muslim faith.

Jordan: "he who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty."

Syria: "He who catches his wife or one of his ascendants, descendants or sister committing adultery (flagrante delicto) or illegitimate sexual acts with another and he killed or injured one or both of them benefits from an exemption of penalty."

Iraq: women are killed nearly every day for dishonoring their families.

Pakistan: Often a man must simply claim the killing was for his honor and he will go free. Up to 2000 women are murdered each year (estimated)

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Something like this happened in Canada a couple of months ago. Three sisters were killed by their father, brother and mom. They were drowned when their van went into a canal.
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Something like this happened in Canada a couple of months ago. Three sisters were killed by their father, brother and mom. They were drowned when their van went into a canal.
Canada: “Honor Killing” Investigated in Death of Three Montreal Sisters :: Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.)


FWIW, honor killings also occur in Hindu and Sikh religions, so Muslims don't have the market on crazy. In India though, a lot of it has to do with the caste system as well.
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In the NY Times magazine section today there's a story on woman's issues. There is a UN figure in there- that 5000 women a year are murdered for 'honor killings'.

It's a staggering figure.
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FWIW, honor killings also occur in Hindu and Sikh religions, so Muslims don't have the market on crazy.
Yes, but thankfully this is not widespread and the authorities don't condone it. I also think it has to do with the caste system. But this is what I asked examples of:
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Please supply examples to back up your claim that honor killings happen in this large degree in other faiths.
GardenofEve seemed to think that this widespread, nauseating murder of innocent women was just as prevalent in other faiths.
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honor killings are specific to certain cultures whether muslim, hindu or christian ex. arabs and other asians. period.
violence against women is widespread regardless of what name people want to label it.
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