Are Americans getting ruder?

[buttmunch]

WASHINGTON -- Americans' fast-paced, high-tech existence has taken a toll on the civil in society.
From road rage in the morning commute to high decibel cell-phone conversations that ruin dinner out, men and women behaving badly has become the hallmark of a hurry-up world. An increasing informality -- flip-flops at the White House, even -- combined with self-absorbed communication gadgets and a demand for instant gratification have strained common courtesies to the breaking point.
"All of these things lead to a world with more stress, more chances for people to be rude to each other," said Peter Post, a descendent of etiquette expert Emily Post and an instructor on business manners through the Emily Post Institute in Burlington, Vt.
In some cases, the harried single parent has replaced the traditional nuclear family and there's little time to teach the basics of polite living, let alone how to hold a knife and fork, according to Post.
A slippage in manners is obvious to many Americans. Nearly 70 percent questioned in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll said people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. The trend is noticed in large and small places alike, although more urban people report bad manners, 74 percent, then do people in rural areas, 67 percent.
Peggy Newfield, founder and president of Personal Best, said the generation that came of age in the times-a-changin' 1960s and 1970s are now parents who don't stress the importance of manners, such as opening a door for a female.
So it was no surprise to Newfield that those children wouldn't understand how impolite it was to wear flip-flops to a White House meeting with the president -- as some members of the Northwestern women's lacrosse team did in the summer.
A whopping 93 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll faulted parents for failing to teach their children well.
"Parents are very much to blame," said Newfield, whose Atlanta-based company started teaching etiquette to young people and now focuses on corporate employees. "And the media."
Sulking athletes and boorish celebrities grab the headlines while television and Hollywood often glorify crude behavior.
"It's not like the old shows 'Father Knows Best,"' said Norm Demers, 47, of Sutton, Mass. "People just copy it. How do you change it?" Demers would like to see more family friendly television but isn't holding his breath.
Nearly everyone has a story of the rude or the crude, but fewer are willing to fess up to boorish behavior themselves.
Only 13 percent in the poll would admit to making an obscene gesture while driving; only 8 percent said they had used their cell phones in a loud or annoying manner around others. But 37 percent in the survey of 1,001 adults questioned Aug. 22-23 said they had used a swear word in public.
Yvette Sienkiewicz, 41, a claims adjustor from Wilmington, Del., recalled in frustration how a bigger boy cut in front of her 8-year-old son as he waited in line to play a game at the local Chuck E. Cheese.
"It wasn't my thing to say something to the little boy," said Sienkiewicz, who remembered that the adult accompanying the child never acknowledged what he had done. In the AP-Ipsos poll, 38 percent said they have asked someone to stop behaving rudely.
More and more, manners are taught less and less.
Carole Krohn, 71, a retired school bus driver in Deer Park, Wash., said she has seen children's behavior deteriorate over the years, including one time when a boy tossed a snowball at the back of another driver's head. In this litigious society, she argued, a grown-up risks trouble correcting someone else's kid.
One solution for bad behavior "is to put a kid off in the middle of the road. Nowadays all people want to do is sue, to say you're to blame, get you fired," Krohn said.
Krohn, who often greeted students by name and with a hearty "good morning," once was asked by a child if she got tired of offering pleasantries.
Sienkiewicz, whose job requires hours in a car, said she tries to avoid rush-hour traffic because of drivers with a me-first attitude. The most common complaint about rudeness in the poll was aggressive or reckless driving, with 91 percent citing it as the most frequent discourtesy.
Margaret Hahn-Dupont, a 39-year-old law professor from Oradell, N.J., noticed that some of her students showed little respect for authority and felt free to express their discontent and demand better grades.
Close on the heels of the baby boomers are the affluent teens and young adults who have known nothing but the conveniences of computers and cell phones, devices that take them away from face-to-face encounters and can be downright annoying in a crowd.
"They got a lot of things and feel entitled to get a lot of things," said Hahn-Dupont.
Bernard F. Scanlon, 79, of Sayville, N.Y., would like to see one railroad car set aside for cell phone users to ensure peace and quiet for the rest. Amtrak has taken a stab at that by banning cell phones and other loud devices in one car of some trains, especially on chatty Northeast and West Coast routes.
But if those trains are sold out, the Quiet Car service is suspended and anything goes.
How rude.

I think we're all getting ruder and much less service oriented. I had to deal with a government agency yesterday, whose job profile is based on helping people. They were abrubt, unhelpful, and while not blatantly rude, made it quite clear that my petty little questions and needs were not, in any way, shape or manner, of any concern to them. And this happens all the time.
so why do you think we're getting ruder? Is it like the article said or is there more to it?

[DisruptiveHair]

When you post a news story could you include a link back to the original source?

Thanks!

[SVZ]

i think people in general are getting ruder.

[DisruptiveHair]

People are getting whinier in general too. Everyone's so eager to be offended these days.

[buttmunch]

It came from a boston site, via cnn.com. Go there and click on Northeast, then the heroin story and you'll find it. (yes, I'm too lazy on this lazy Saturday to go back and do it all again...sorry!).

[Mr. Authority]

I agree with SVZ that most people in the world are getting more ruder in general. Sure there's some nice people out there, however alot of folks nowadays are more to themselves and don't feel like getting bothered by others.

[miss_perfect]

A-holes know no geographical boundaries; the world's getting ruder.

[hockeyhorse]

I notice some people won't even say hello to my little boy when he says hi to people in the store, or they don't even bother to help me open the door when I am trying to push the stroller through, or store clerks rush you out the door before you can even put your items in the cart and put your wallet or purse away. How rude!

Kids nowadays give you dirty looks when you say hi or anything to them, and they vandalize stuff without a care in the world.

[DisruptiveHair]

Originally Posted by hockeyhorse

I notice some people won't even say hello to my little boy when he says hi to people in the store, or they don't even bother to help me open the door when I am trying to push the stroller through, or store clerks rush you out the door before you can even put your items in the cart and put your wallet or purse away. How rude!

Kids nowadays give you dirty looks when you say hi or anything to them, and they vandalize stuff without a care in the world.

I admit that I often don't say "hi" back when a kid says hello to me in public because the parents sometimes go INSANE. They're deaf when their kid says hello to you, but say hi back and they think you're a stalker or something.

[hockeyhorse]

Originally Posted by disruptivehair

I admit that I often don't say "hi" back when a kid says hello to me in public because the parents sometimes go INSANE. They're deaf when their kid says hello to you, but say hi back and they think you're a stalker or something.

I do get your point. There are some overprotective parents out there. Yeah, my boy kinda gets carried away and says hello to everyone.(he is 2 ). I do make eye contact with and say hi to all the little kids that say hi to me, probably because my kids start talking to the kids, and I talk to the parents.

[A*O]

It's not just Americans unfortunately - I blame the parents LOL