First-hand celebrity rumours! - Page 58

CherryDarling · February 13th, 2007, 10:51 PM

Keep bringing the fresh gossip, I love it!

SunShine23 · February 14th, 2007, 08:39 PM

I know SparkleHead said she doesn't want to talk about it...but I understand her reasoning that people feel they cannot know Jesus or Moses existed for sure, much the same way they can't know aliens exist. I get your reasoning, but i think equating human existence with alien existence is faulty and your argument cant be made. that's all I want to say.

hotncmom · February 14th, 2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SunShine23

I know SparkleHead said she doesn't want to talk about it...but I understand her reasoning that people feel they cannot know Jesus or Moses existed for sure, much the same way they can't know aliens exist. I get your reasoning, but i think equating human existence with alien existence is faulty and your argument cant be made. that's all I want to say.

Just popping in to say that there is plenty of historical evidence that Jesus and Moses existed. Now whether or not you believe Jesus was the son of God as he claimed is a matter of faith.

Is there as much evidence for the existence of aliens? I'm not really into that kind of stuff but I don't think there is.

Besides that, L. Ron admitted a long time ago that he made the entire religion up. I don't know how anyone can believe that stuff after that.

Personally I think $cientology is just a big-ass tax shelter for those Hollywood stars. They pay their money, get huge charitable contributions deductions, and get perks like the use of vacation homes all over the world, yachts, spa-like Celebrity Centres, etc. free as benefits for being members of the so-called "church". Why the IRS isn't all over this scam I'll never know.

sweetness · February 14th, 2007, 09:05 PM

^^ Yes, it's basically just a club for the very rich. Not a religion. They just call it that so they can get the tax breaks.

sparklehead · February 14th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Fair enough SunShine! Now to try and get this thread back on track... Can't think of any gossip I know right now, so I'll just post a couple celeb run-ins:

My friend used to work for one of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I used to hang out at his house while they were on tour, it was very cool to see all the Grammys and VMAs. He didn't want to put any of them out but my friend convinced him to display them. They were always nice to everyone I know, but extremely professional, definately left the rock and roll lifestyle behind years ago.

I talked to Mike Einziger of Incubus for a while at a wedding. He was incredibly nice. We talked about Karaoke, apparently being in a famous band doesn't stop the Karaoke fun.

I was eating at La Scala with my family a few years ago and Drew Barrymore was at the booth next to us. My dad was trying to embarass my sister and leaned over to her and introduced my sister as though she were the famous one. She was very sweet about it all, and looks the same in person only more petite than on screen.

It's been a few years since I've lived in LA but I have a few friends there who work in the industry. I'll try and see what they know!

InigoMontoya · February 14th, 2007, 11:25 PM

This is definitely sub-E list gossip; I met Roger Hazard, the guy with the big biceps on that show "Sell This House!" on A&E last year at the Seelbach Hilton (where portions of "Elizabethtown" were filmed) in Louisville. I was getting off the elevator, and he and his crew were waiting on it. I'm a fan of those decorating shows, and shook his hand and said "I'm such a fan." He said, "Well, thank you!" and a guy with him said, "That's cool." I thought, "OK, I'm a big fat geek 'cause I love those shows, and no one must tell them that when they see them."

Ahem...I don't think that show's filming any new episodes, either. ::cough:: Inigo's a geek ::cough::

Pandora · February 14th, 2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hotncmom

Just popping in to say that there is plenty of historical evidence that Jesus and Moses existed. Now whether or not you believe Jesus was the son of God as he claimed is a matter of faith.

Yep. People who have this view should also consider that no historical figure from back in the day actually was proven to exist, since there are no pics of them smiling while saying cheese to the digicam to prove it. It's all about the historical evidence, and if you don't believe in the evidence that shows the existence of these characters, you might as well rule out the chances of old emperors and conquerers ever existing as well, since the legacy is the only evidence they left behind by all of them.

sparklehead · February 14th, 2007, 11:54 PM

Actually I never claimed there was a lack of proof in thier existences, rather, as hotncmom said, that belief in status as the son of God, or hearing God's voice is a leap of faith.

InigoMontoya · February 15th, 2007, 12:10 AM

O/T -- there is biblical archaeological evidence and writings of non-Christian historians of the day (Josephus is one) that back up events that are purported to have happened. But as Sparkle says, faith is a leap. What's that old adage? "If faith could be proven, it would cease to exist."

Pandora · February 15th, 2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sparklehead

Actually I never claimed there was a lack of proof in thier existences, rather, as hotncmom said, that belief in status as the son of God, or hearing God's voice is a leap of faith.

It was not personal, dear, nothing regarding what you said about religion itself. It's just that one too many skeptical people claim the lack of proof of historical figures just because they're linked to religion.

sparklehead · February 15th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Oh ok, sorry! I must be slightly jumpy after the comment about me being suspicious.

southernbelle · February 15th, 2007, 07:23 AM

Sparklehead, the comment was not directed at you personally, so I hope that you can stop letting it bother you so much.

What I meant by "I'm suspicious of anyone who tries to claim that it's not," was that when people vehemently deny that Scientology is a cult, I am suspicious of their reasons for doing so and automatically find myself wondering if they are members.

It had nothing to do with you as an individual.

sparklehead · February 15th, 2007, 10:18 AM

I don't think I was crazy for taking it personally, but I'm glad to hear it wasn't, not because I feel you're wrong in questioning, more because I felt the attitude behind it was discussion-stiffling. I'm am very happy to hear it wasn't, I'll try not to take things personally in the future.

missbazilb · February 15th, 2007, 03:12 PM

Well, not to go too OT, but I had a roommate who got into Scientology for about a year. It dragged her down both mentally and financially. She would tell me some of the stuff that they did there, which just seemed totally whacko, like taking huge amounts of niacin, and sitting in a sauna for hours. That can't be good for you. She also spent an absolute FORTUNE on the "courses". I remember her taking a loan out (I wonder what she told the bank it was for) for about $25,000, and she would get bills for thousands each month. And she was only in it for about a year. When she stopped going, they sent her these really weird letters (she left all this stuff lying around...a cry for help maybe?), it would basically be a piece of paper that someone had handwritten that just said stuff like, "Hope to see you soon", or "Haven't seen you in awhile". Just one line, that was it. Very strange.

southernbelle · February 15th, 2007, 03:51 PM

I don't know if I've posted this or not...

One of my cousin's friends tried to do a report on Scientology for a college Religion class. She went to a Scientology center in Atlanta, and they charged her something like $30 before she was even allowed into the first meeting. She was so interested in figuring out Scientology secrets that she paid to attend another function. She said that at first, they were all welcoming, but then they started to hound her about what she was doing when they saw her taking extensive notes about the lectures and meetings. A bunch of them became infuriated and ganged up on her, taking her notebook and demanding that she leave immediately. Someone threatened to sue her if she revealed anything that she'd seen or heard while she was there. She told us that she was literally scared for her life.