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    Foreigners feel this way? no suprise but americans feel this way too trust me!

    Travel industry: U.S. losing out on international tourism

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    Industry notes steep decline in overseas travel to U.S.
    Industry says decline resulted in billions in lost revenue
    Immigration expert says industry is "motivated by greed"

    From Jeanne Meserve and Mike M. Ahlers
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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Travel industry leaders meeting in Washington Wednesday said they want the U.S. government to stop treating tourists like terrorists, and to take steps to reverse a steep decline in overseas travel to the United States that followed the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    Overseas travel to the United States has plummeted 17 percent in the past five years, travel industry officials say. And while a recent surge in travelers from Mexico and Canada have helped the industry rebound, it masks a precipitous and painful drop in travel originating in other countries.

    The U.S. share of international travel has dropped from 9 percent to 6 percent, the group says.

    The travel industry blames the U.S. government for under-staffing border posts, which they say is contributing to widespread perceptions overseas that the United States is hostile to foreigners.

    "International travelers will tell you that they find that they are treated like criminals, that they are barked at by U.S. officials," said Geoffrey Freeman of the Discover America Partnership. "They simply feel unwelcome and that is leading them to choose other countries."

    The travel decline is also hurting the United States' reputation, and the goodwill travel can engender, the group said.

    The partnership is supported by a number of major players in the U.S. tourism and travel industry, including the Travel Industry Association, InterContinental Hotels, Marriott International and Disney.

    According to the partnership members, the decline in overseas travel to the United States comes at a time when the travel business is burgeoning internationally. But travelers are choosing to go elsewhere.

    Decline hurting economy, industry group says
    Of the 25 countries that were the largest source of visitors to the United States in 2000, 17 sent fewer visitors in 2005, industry officials say. Japan -- the United States' third largest source of visitors after Canada and Mexico -- sent 5.1 million travelers to the country in 2000, but only 3.9 million in 2005. Germany sent 1.8 million in 2000, and only 1.4 million in 2005.

    The decline is hurting the U.S. economy, the group said. Travelers from Canada and Mexico typically don't spend as much as people flying in from overseas, the group said.

    Had U.S. travel remained on course, it would have resulted in $94 billion in economic gains, some 200,000 newly created jobs, and $16 billion in tax revenue, said Freeman.

    U.S. State Department and Homeland Security officials say the industry is failing to consider recent gains made to speed up the issuance of visas and modernize technology at international ports of entry.

    The State Department says it has significantly reduced wait times for visas in India, and is working to do the same in Brazil, where people wait from 11 to 79 days for a visa interview.

    The travel industry coalition says that, contrary to popular belief, U.S. foreign policy is not a significant factor in the decline of travel to the United States.

    "In fact, the evidence strongly demonstrates otherwise," the report says. A 2006 survey of travel agents showed that "their clients were far more focused on entry policies" than on foreign policy, it says.

    The group attributes the decline to increased competition, underfunded border checkpoints that create backups, and a perception that the United States does not welcome visitors.

    "Our national reputation has suffered as a direct result of policies and perceptions that discourage travel to the U.S.," the group says.

    Security concerns raised
    The group says the solution is to modernize the visa application process and ports of entry to expedite the process, and to get the word out that America welcomes visitors.

    The group also wants to expand the visa waiver program, which allows visitors from 27 mostly European countries to enter the United States for limited stays without a visa. Currently, about two-thirds of overseas air travel to the United States is from visa waiver countries.

    But a July 2006 government report noted "weaknesses" in the program, and some security experts have called for abolishing it.

    The travel industry's recommendation is "motivated by greed," said Michael Cutler, a former INS inspector now with the Center for Immigration Studies. Travelers who get visas are twice scrutinized by the U.S. government -- first when they are interviewed for the visa, and again at the border, Cutler said. But travelers from visa waiver countries are scrutinized only when they arrive at the border.

    The 2006 Government Accountability Office notes that terrorists can exploit the system by recruiting terrorists in visa waiver countries. Shoe bomber Richard Reid came from the Britain, a visa waiver country.

    Cutler said the travel industry is being "very short-sighted" in advocating expansion of the visa waiver program.

    "If, God forbid, there's another terrorist attack ... travel to our country would come to a standstill. And then, I believe, they would find themselves in a much worse position."

    Local travel officials contacted by CNN say business is matching, or even exceeding, pre-September 11, 2001 levels. New York City and Orlando both reported surpassing pre-September 11, 2001 figures.

    But national tourism officials say domestic travel, as well as a huge influx of legal Mexican travel business, is masking the truth. The positive balance of trade generated by inbound travel has declined 72 percent over the past decade -- from $26.3 billion in 1996 to $7.4 billion in 2005, officials say. Through modernization, the country can both increase travel and increase security, it contends.

    "The solution is, Congress has got to appropriate more money to spend to staff the consular offices (overseas) and to staff the immigration offices here in the United States," said J.W. Marriott Jr., chief of Marriott International.

    International travel benefits the country by improving its image, he said. "The overall image of this country abroad is extremely important to this nation in every respect. People feel good about this country; when they come they feel a lot better."

    "We've got to get them coming back," he said.



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    that's so true. US customs officials at airports are incredibly rude. i only transit through the US if i absolutely have no other choice, whereas before i would try to stay a few days in new york on my way back.
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    ^^Agreed. After our last experience flying through L.A. airport to and from Australia, my husband and I vowed not to return to the U.S. unless it was absolutely necessary. So far it hasn't been. I'd love to go to New Mexico and back to San Diego, but I won't until the current adminstration is long gone.

    Border officials tend to be rude everywhere, but we were treated with open hostility. I can't imagine how badly non-whites are treated, given what happened to us.

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    It's not the 'terror threat' that's putting tourists off visiting the US, it's the paranoid border security and the major 'Tude of customs and immigration officials, let alone the delays and general chaos at airports. They seem to assume that visitors are terrorists and we have to prove otherwise. It's just too much hassle so people go elsewhere.

    When we visit my sister in Canada we now go via Hong Kong so we don't have to transit through the US at all. It means a slightly longer flight but at least you are spending that time watching another movie on the plane instead of being interrogated by US homeland security goons on a power trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    It's not the 'terror threat' that's putting tourists off visiting the US, it's the paranoid border security and the major 'Tude of customs and immigration officials, let alone the delays and general chaos at airports. They seem to assume that visitors are terrorists and we have to prove otherwise. It's just too much hassle so people go elsewhere.
    I agree. A country's foreign policy isn't enough to affect my travel plans, but the prospect of asshole border people and a potential lengthy/exhausting process is.

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    is the lax airport so unfriendly these days..i haven't been there in a while but i live an hour from it..i suppose it makes sense with the current geo-political state tho..

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    Why does it makes sense to be hostile/rude/intimidating to do a job? Their behavior is way beyond "unfriendly;" it's harrassment. A*O is right -- they ASSUME you are guilty of being an international terrorist. And all the while, the REAL terrorists are going about their business and getting into the country legally on visas, etc.

    I know of at least two dozen people, not including people on this board, who aren't flying to/or thru the States any more because hey, we don't like being treating like criminals simply for taking a holiday. And some of these are business people who are taking their business elsewhere. If Americans were treated similarly every time they tried to enter another country, we'd never hear the end of it.

    I'm all for undergoing the necessary precautions, but this treatment is something else again. I'd say walk a mile in a visitor to your country's shoes before making that kind of statement.

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    I GOT TOTALLY FUCKED OVER THE LAST TIME I TRAVELED and it was for my grandfathers funeral too so im not doing it by plane for a while fucking assholes I swear to gawd and you can't even say anything for fear of being wrongfully arrested!
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    [quote=pacific breeze;522549]Why does it makes sense to be hostile/rude/intimidating to do a job? Their behavior is way beyond "unfriendly;" it's harrassment. A*O is right -- they ASSUME you are guilty of being an international terrorist. And all the while, the REAL terrorists are going about their business and getting into the country legally on visas, etc.
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    They use intimidation. It's like they intentionally hire some of the people with these sort of personality traits. I hate it also, PB. I'm so far from being a terrorist that it creates this hostility in me too. UGh.

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    so far from being a terrorist that it creates this hostility in me too. UGh.

    When I was growing up 'vacationing' was fun, soothing, and calm experience, now it's turned into a nightmare to me.
    OMG TOTALLY! thats why im thinking of doing road trips only for next few years! i SWEAR and you must be an asshole to want to act like that just b/c you have a little bit of authority over someone fucking idiots.

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    I swear to gawd and you can't even say anything for fear of being wrongfully arrested!
    That adds insult to injury because if you try to stand up for yourself, they will abuse their authority even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceInWonderland View Post
    OMG TOTALLY! thats why im thinking of doing road trips only for next few years! i SWEAR and you must be an asshole to want to act like that just b/c you have a little bit of authority over someone fucking idiots.
    I know, I know... you can't be relaxed or either be yourself without being outright interrogated.

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    ^ I'm even afraid to get drunk in the airport since watch so many episodes of Airline on A&E where they dont allow you to drink and fly no more but im so fucking stressed out and i already have a phobia of flying that i need to drink, but not even that is allowed, but the pilots get to fly drunk all they fucking want!

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    lol, yeah. And I swear, if I EVER meet a security personal with ANY sort of interpersonal skills, I am in awe the rest of that day! It just doesn't happen!

    Whenever, I was coming back through customs after visiting Europe, I got interrogated by this big fat hispanic man sitting on his arse asking me about football & college. I don't get into football though, is my reply back to him on my re-entry to the US.

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