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I can't remember if it was all of Ontario, or just a Toronto by-law, but there are BYOWine restaurants somewhere around there. Corkage fees were generally around $20 though. Not at all worth it for me, who probably didn't spend more than $20 on the bottle itself...
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Half the problem is that restaurant wine is so damned expensive. A reasonable bottle of something that costs, say, $18 in a bottle shop would be at least twice that in a restaurant. So a table of 6 would get one glass each = $6 per glass which is about average for a glass of wine here but sometimes it's much more. I've been asked to pay up to $10 per glass for vin very ordinaire. It's an absolute ripoff and the reason why I love BYO.
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^i remember getting a glass of wine in vegas that i really liked for $14/glass. i remembered the name of it so i could look for it when i got home and guess how much it was...$10/bottle!!! i usually stick with wine when i'm out because you never know how much liquor you are actually getting so as long as i'm good with the pour size, i'll get as drunk as the number of glasses i want to pay for.
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i get it if you're strapped for cash and your friends know it, or if you're just not a drinker and everyone else at the table is ordering cocktails and bottles but those are the exceptions. my friends and i tend to eat/drink the same or we get a lot of food to share and we'll usually start with a cocktail while we wait for our food then order wine with dinner and i assume we all drink around the same but i don't really give a crap and the last thing i'm going to do is count how many cocktails or glasses of wine my friends are having to make sure i'm not being 'ripped off'. going out to dinner is more about the experience and the company and being out, if i wanted to make sure i'm getting exactly what i paid for i'll buy groceries and cook dinner at home.
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^^^ yep, that was my understanding too.
Nights out used to involve a LOT of alcohol, bottles, cocktails, all sorts of stuff. Dinner in Chinese restaurants in particular was always expensive as the drinks bill used to be £300 alone....
Drinks in the US always taste stronger to me than our piddly little measures.
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Where I am from, it's not a big deal at all to have separate checks. People do it all the time. I seriously can't remember the last time I was with a group and everybody just split it up evenly. Individuals or couples either pay their own or one person pays for everything.
I understand how going out with people repeatedly who have similar eating & drinking habits would be a different matter, and if that's how everyone feels comfortable then by all means. But since I don't do that regularly, I am like fgg & don't want to worry about how my choices impact the bill. By the same token, I am not trying to pay for people who eat or drink a lot more than me, either.
So I guess I'm "one of those"
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It's normal here to get separate checks; my friend and I also do it on vacation in Canada. It's easier to keep your own expenses to yourself and vice versa. I've been one of the people left at a restaurant when the big eaters and drinkers went home without leaving enough money - or any. Never again if I can help it.
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