Kim Kardashian in body hugging white dress in Hollywood (02/22/08)

[crumpet]

I'll admit, I'm jealous of the way she says ...ohhh shiiiiit I'm gonna cuuumm...

Did she really say that? I've seen porn where girls are saying, "Oh Shit, Oh Shit" over and over as they get excited. That is such a turnoff. I don't want to be thinking about the stuff that comes out of someone's asshole when I'm fucking. It's gross and very unsexy.

[VenusInFauxFurs]

She did! I didn't see the whole video, but I saw part of it and she said that. Very unsexy indeed.

[MrsMarsters]

^^ LMAO... what is wrong with just moaning..? Haha...

[Bijoux]

No matter what she looks stinky.

[MissDecember]

No amount of plastic surgery could give my body that Vargas girl look...haha, I wish. The tits and ass may or may not be fake...we can only speculate....but the waist-to-hip ratio and shapely calves can't be created by plastic surgery. She may have had a nose job, but what was already there - the jawline, cheeks, those amazing eyes -- are gorgeous. It's not as though PS can create a beautiful face from scratch. If that was the case, there'd be no Rumers, Tori Spellings, or Kimberly Stewarts, and so on. Wouldn't it be nice though, if you could just drop X amount of $$$$ and wake up with Kim's face and body? If I had her body I'd showcase it in form-fitting dresses too. A body like that isn't meant to be downplayed in demure numbers with Peter Pan collars.
My best friend bears a striking resemblance to Kim and I definetly notice a bitchy response from women when we go out together. There's palpable frost in the air when we enter a room, or a store as the case often is. My boyfriend suggests that we should wear less eye makeup and not show off our legs so as to make women around us less insecure, but what kind of Afghanistan shit is that? I despise this notion that dramatic makeup + short skirts = WHORE.

And as much as I may disagree with it, and would never do it myself, I don't think making a sex tape with your long-term boyfriend makes a woman a whore either. I'm still not understanding this "Kim is a whore" refrain.

I'll believe the pissing thing when I see it, too.

[powerorchid]

As a curvy girl myself, I'd like to see her in some "pick your kids up from school" clothes or some work clothes - just to get some ideas. All models and clothes in fashion magazines are for flat chested people. She looks a little cartoonish and overdone, but still I like the fact that she is bringing back curvy.

[Mel1973]

No amount of plastic surgery could give my body that Vargas girl look...haha, I wish. The tits and ass may or may not be fake...we can only speculate....but the waist-to-hip ratio and shapely calves can't be created by plastic surgery. She may have had a nose job, but what was already there - the jawline, cheeks, those amazing eyes -- are gorgeous. It's not as though PS can create a beautiful face from scratch. If that was the case, there'd be no Rumers, Tori Spellings, or Kimberly Stewarts, and so on. Wouldn't it be nice though, if you could just drop X amount of $$$$ and wake up with Kim's face and body? If I had her body I'd showcase it in form-fitting dresses too. A body like that isn't meant to be downplayed in demure numbers with Peter Pan collars.
My best friend bears a striking resemblance to Kim and I definetly notice a bitchy response from women when we go out together. There's palpable frost in the air when we enter a room, or a store as the case often is. My boyfriend suggests that we should wear less eye makeup and not show off our legs so as to make women around us less insecure, but what kind of Afghanistan shit is that? I despise this notion that dramatic makeup + short skirts = WHORE.

And as much as I may disagree with it, and would never do it myself, I don't think making a sex tape with your long-term boyfriend makes a woman a whore either. I'm still not understanding this "Kim is a whore" refrain.

I'll believe the pissing thing when I see it, too.

I hear about about this shit & I honestly don't know women who instantly hate other women simply based on eye makeup or nice legs. In order for me to hate or even dislike another person, they would need to do something that offends me - and it ain't walking into a joint looking good. I actually will point out an attractive woman, I don't feel threatened or anything like that. That's why I find all this "ya'll are all jellluss!11" stuff ridiculous.
although, if a woman walks in and has that smug/I just stepped in shit/I'm better than you" look - we may not be pals....

[crumpet]

^^Unfortunately, Mel, not all women have your confidence and many are threatened by the presence of a woman whom they view as competition for male attention, even if the other woman isn't necessarily trying to get a man's attention. They instantly know which women have the jaw dropping factor and they resent that she takes attention off of them, or maybe they feel that their man would want them to look like that and it makes them feel inadequate.

I'm actually embarrassed for woman who wear their insecurities on their sleeve like that. It's sooo transparent and men pick up on it right away.

[VenusInFauxFurs]

I hear about about this shit & I honestly don't know women who instantly hate other women simply based on eye makeup or nice legs. In order for me to hate or even dislike another person, they would need to do something that offends me - and it ain't walking into a joint looking good. I actually will point out an attractive woman, I don't feel threatened or anything like that. That's why I find all this "ya'll are all jellluss!11" stuff ridiculous.
although, if a woman walks in and has that smug/I just stepped in shit/I'm better than you" look - we may not be pals....

Damn true! I don't know anyone that hates anyone based on short skirts or too much eye make up. I hardly feel threatened in life by such things. If a woman think she has leverage over me because she has a short skirt on and heavy eye make up

No, not jealous. Sorry. Who are these jealous people, Come on 'fess up jealous haters!

[MissDecember]

I hear about about this shit & I honestly don't know women who instantly hate other women simply based on eye makeup or nice legs.

You've never encountered women who resent or full-on hate you for a perceived (physical, but not always) advantage on your part or one lacking on theirs? Count yourself lucky. Trust me, they exist

In order for me to hate or even dislike another person, they would need to do something that offends me - and it ain't walking into a joint looking good. I actually will point out an attractive woman, I don't feel threatened or anything like that. That's why I find all this "ya'll are all jellluss!11" stuff ridiculous.
although, if a woman walks in and has that smug/I just stepped in shit/I'm better than you" look - we may not be pals....

A pretty woman definetly doesn't need to have the smug look for other women to hate her on sight. (And I wouldn't say my best friend and I are smug, we are defensive if anything in our body language because we're so used to the hostile reactions we get...it's hard to stay upbeat and sunshiney when you have women drilling holes into your head from across the room/store/whatever. Location has some bearing on it....we live in an area where makeup is disdained, and dressing up is for weddings. In my hometown of Daytona Beach my gorgeous friend and I would blend right in, and not draw this kind of ire.)
If an insecure woman is with her boyfriend or husband and he ogles an attractive woman, the attractive (and wholly innocent) woman is the one who gets the evil eye. Or at least in my experience and observation.

I don't know anyone that hates anyone based on short skirts or too much eye make up.

I'm not trying to say the sky is green or that aliens live beneath the Earth's surface...jealous women DO in fact (unfortunately) exist...it's not mythology.

[Mel1973]

^^Unfortunately, Mel, not all women have your confidence and many are threatened by the presence of a woman whom they view as competition for male attention, even if the other woman isn't necessarily trying to get a man's attention. They instantly know which women have the jaw dropping factor and they resent that she takes attention off of them, or maybe they feel that their man would want them to look like that and it makes them feel inadequate.

I'm actually embarrassed for woman who wear their insecurities on their sleeve like that. It's sooo transparent and men pick up on it right away.

I actually have a friend (or two) who told me that they originally decided to be my friend because they "just knew" if their husbands were ever gonna leave them, it was going to be for me. I find that shit silly and inconsequential. I think there are far more important things in life than looks. It's sad to me, that some people put so much stock in looks. Shallow, shallow, shallow...

You've never encountered women who resent or full-on hate you for a perceived (physical, but not always) advantage on your part or one lacking on theirs? Count yourself lucky. Trust me, they exist



A pretty woman definetly doesn't need to have the smug look for other women to hate her on sight. (And I wouldn't say my best friend and I are smug, we are defensive if anything in our body language because we're so used to the hostile reactions we get...it's hard to stay upbeat and sunshiney when you have women drilling holes into your head from across the room/store/whatever. Location has some bearing on it....we live in an area where makeup is disdained, and dressing up is for weddings. In my hometown of Daytona Beach my gorgeous friend and I would blend right in, and not draw this kind of ire.)
If an insecure woman is with her boyfriend or husband and he ogles an attractive woman, the attractive (and wholly innocent) woman is the one who gets the evil eye. Or at least in my experience and observation.



I'm not trying to say the sky is green or that aliens live beneath the Earth's surface...jealous women DO in fact (unfortunately) exist...it's not mythology.

jealousy exists, for sure - but sometimes what's perceived as jealousy can also be that defensiveness that you described in your post. I've walked into places and made friends immediately and probably made enemies at first sight. But I'm not going to carry those people's insecurities around with me for life. You walk in with a chip on your shoulder and people notice, you know?

[VenusInFauxFurs]

Much like the"jealousy" the two girls that claimed they were kicked off the airline in that news story yesterday for being "too good looking" because everyone was "jealous". Bullshit. Sometimes. People, just don't happen to think you're all that attractive. You've just got an attitude and that's what gets noticed.

ETA: Jealousy does exist; I choose not to buy into it personally, if a woman is jealous of me I refuse to play into it, what good can come of it. I've usually zero interest in their man anyway and upon clarification make that abundantly clear.

[crumpet]

If an insecure woman is with her boyfriend or husband and he ogles an attractive woman, the attractive (and wholly innocent) woman is the one who gets the evil eye. Or at least in my experience and observation. yep.

Jealously is such an ugly emotion and it makes people feel so vulnerable that trying to find someone who owns up to it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. No one is anxious to admit they feel 'less than' someone else because it shows a chink in their armor.

I suspect we have a lot of women here who are more enlightened and feminist than average. Although, some brands of feminists actually resent women who dress femininely and who wear makeup in a style that blatantly appeals to the opposite sex. It also isn't unsual for a woman to come up with hundreds of imaginary character flaws when unable to tear up another woman's appearance (she looks like a slut, she looks like a bitch, you just know she's sooo stuck up). Of course, these same women feel it is their obligation to inform their drooling boyfriend that 'you know those aren't real' and 'those hair extensions look soooo fake', lest he start thinking or wishing he had something like that at home. Lots of women don't put jack shit into their appearance and are armed with a littany of excuses for why they don't 'have time' to shower or exercise or put on lip gloss. It doesn't take any more time to put on a dress than it does a sweatsuit.

That said, I have all kinds of women friends who have all different ideas of how they want to look. Lipstick lesbians, androgynous looking lebians, country girl tomboys, Wal-Mart fashionistas, and girly girl shoe addicts and designer makeup snobs. Most of them are comfortable with themselves and sledom, if ever, make catty comments about other women based on their looks. So I know women like that exist. Unfortunately, so do the other kind and I don't think December and her friend are just imagining things.

Those two dolts on the airplane have been watching too much Sweet Sixteen and have likely been told by their parents since birth how unique, special, gorgeous, and wonderful they are whether they ever actually lived up to it or not. I wouldn't use those brats as an example that women who say other women are catty are making it up.

[Mel1973]

and I think some women have vivid imaginations. I don't hate a confident woman, but there are some women who walk into a room with shitty smirks on their faces and then try to alienate every woman in the room.

I'm a jealous bitch... *hums Jealous Guy by the Beatles*

[crumpet]

^^^^No, you are right about those kinds of women. Ironically, those are the same ones who insist they don't have many women friends and they get along better with guys........they like being the only girl and getting all the attention that comes with it.

There's lots of variety in the bitch community.