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    I had no idea- what an evil piece of crap.
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    Yeah, I think joking about rape is bad enough. But to hold someone who has just been raped up to ridicule in one of the world's largest newspapers - if someone can show where Silverman did that, I would definitely put her on my suspicious list.
    I've got you. You mean specific jokes about a person as opposed to general rape jokes. Well, I can't think of comics making rape jokes targeted at one specific person, but I've certainly heard numerous rape jokes from numerous comics. But so I know for sure, you don't add them to your list for general ones, right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    I've got you. You mean specific jokes about a person as opposed to general rape jokes. Well, I can't think of comics making rape jokes targeted at one specific person, but I've certainly heard numerous rape jokes from numerous comics. But so I know for sure, you don't add them to your list for general ones, right?
    I don't like rape jokes in general. And if a comedian (particularly a guy) tells a joke about rape, it negatively impacts my view of them. I have to admit, everybody brings their own sensitivities to the table. What bothers me about Allen was that in this particular case, this was somebody who he cared about at one time enough to marry her, no matter how badly it ended. And when she is raped, his public comment is not only to not offer sympathy, but to basically imply that she was a bad lay. I try not to judge people on isolated incidences, because everybody can slip up, but not only did Allen apparently not apologize, but he went on to David Cavett's show and repeated it, somewhat gleefully, it looked like.

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    Yeah, I get what Mo is saying. Context does actually matter.

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    Hey, everyone knows the only funny rape jokes are prison rapes jokes.
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    I found the tv show "Oz" scarier than "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Seriously.

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    I wouldn't know. I fell asleep during the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornFlakegrl View Post
    Yeah, I get what Mo is saying. Context does actually matter.
    Vouchissimo.

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    I found the tv show "Oz" scarier than "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre". Seriously.




    ETA...wait, there was a subject here. Bill Cosby. Yeah, never liked him. I remember this story well. Did the women settle out of court?

    Since he helpfully assaulted large numbers of outspoken grown women rather than a handful of terrified young children from his own family circle, I'm surprised at the degree to which this story was apparently buried. He must've spent a shit ton of money. Probably why he's working again.
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    Default Tamara Green Talks About Bill Cosby

    Dylan Farrow’s accusations that Woody Allen, her adoptive father, molested her when she was seven have been all over the Internet this week, even though the allegations have been public knowledge for over two decades. As Gawker pointed out, Allen’s not the only beloved celebrity facing accusations of sexual assault that were much discussed, then largely forgotten -- multiple women have accused Bill Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting them. Cosby has repeatedly denied the allegations, and settled a 2006 lawsuit that included 13 accusers.

    Newsweek spoke to one of those women, Tamara Green, a former trial attorney now living in Southern California who says Cosby assaulted her in the 1970s; she only came forward in 2005, after hearing about some of his other alleged victims. Green talked candidly about how her confession was a “career-ender,” and about how difficult it can be for women who accuse powerful men of sexual assault.

    How did you know Bill Cosby?

    I met him when I was a 19-year-old model in the 1970s. I was really pretty and I thought the world was my oyster. I thought, “Of course people will invite me places.” I was friends with a plastic surgeon who knew [Cosby], and we would all go to the racetrack together. I was in charge of driving the limo so they could all get loaded and I’d drive them home.


    What happened?

    He asked me to help him raise capital for a club he wanted to start. One day, I called him to cancel a meeting because I was feeling really sick, and he said, "Why don’t you come over to this restaurant I’m at, you’ll feel better if you have lunch.” I sat down, and he gave me what he said was two pills of [an over-the-counter cold medicine]. I swallowed them, and 20 minutes later I felt terrific; 30 minutes later, I was face-down in my soup. He volunteered to take me home. And then, because I was so ill, he volunteered to undress me and put me to bed. I started fighting him -- I took a lamp and broke a window. He finally left. When I woke up, I saw that he left two 100-dollar bills on the table next to my front door. I was so sincerely and deeply infuriated that, even through the drugs.... I was crazed. I wanted to rip his neck off.

    The next day, I went to go visit my brother, who was in the terminal ward at a children’s hospital. Cosby, smart man that he is, had been to the hospital to give presents to the kids. By the time I got to the hospital, my brother was glowing that the great Bill Cosby had given him a portable radio.


    Why did you come out with your story, decades later?

    I was sitting in my kitchen [in 2004] and saw CNN was covering the “allegation” that another girl had been drugged and assaulted by him, and I thought, surely this will all come out now, surely it’s happened all over the place. Then the district attorney issued a statement that it was still under investigation, but it seemed a “he said / she said” type of situation, as all sexual assault cases are. So I called and left a very substantial message, and I didn’t hear from them. I called the detectives, and didn’t hear from them either. All I wanted to do was back her up, so I called her lawyer, and they took my statement and listed me as a Jane Doe. Then, the media found me, and completely assaulted me.

    The first thing I thought when I heard [the 2004 allegations] was, “Really, at [his] age?” I guess the drugs explain all that.

    A lawyer told me I would be crazy to come out after 20 years and accuse him. But I waited and waited to see who would back this girl up, and nobody else would. The Cosby team started smearing her, making her seem petty and loose and cheap.

    I saw how nobody believed her. She had trusted him, and he had drugged her and then assaulted her, just like what happened to me. I saw that nobody was going to take him on, so I felt like it was my duty to risk my neck and stand [up] for all the other women who’ve been assaulted by him.


    Why did you wait so long to report this to the authorities?

    I always get asked that question. Here’s a question: that girl who he attacked in 2004, how did it work out for her? It never works out, unless you’re bleeding and there’s DNA and an eyewitness. I was 19 and he was the king of the world, so how was it going to work? I was a teenager. Nobody would’ve believed me.

    What happened as a result?

    It was a career-ender when I came forward. All my clients were suddenly interested in whether I was a liar or a former hooker or a philanderer. People want their lawyers to be serious-minded intellectuals, honest and honorable people. It casts a shadow on your character if you dare to attack one of these icons. The whole community -- my neighbors, my friends, people in the industry [her ex husband is an Academy Award-winning writer and producer] -- hinges your identity upon what happened. To come out and admit that you’ve had a guy’s hands all over you is disgusting to some people. People accused me of seeking my own fame, but I had a high profile of my own. I don’t need a rapist or child molester to make me famous.


    Matt Lauer seemed pretty skeptical when he interviewed you for the Today Show in 2005. What was that like?

    He was particularly irritated when he interviewed me because he was dealing with a sexual harassment lawsuit of his own at the time. He is also a little guy who is losing his hair. That must make him cranky... He kept saying, “If you make this accusation, you’re not going to be able to unring the bell.” I said, “All you have to do is keep your pants on and keep your hands to yourself. It’s not that hard.” If you do, this won’t happen to you.

    Do you know Cosby’s other accusers?

    I’ve talked to some of [Cosby’s accusers]; other women who were not in the lawsuit [which Cosby eventually settled] contacted me and apologized that they could not come forward because they did not want their husbands or their children or their social circles to know. I’ve also been contacted by other women who have been assaulted by other celebrities. They say, “We have no voice.”

    All the women [who claim he assaulted them] were from out of town, they didn’t have boyfriends who were football players or brothers or fathers in LA to chase him down, they were girls who had downtrodden shoes and were looking for fame and glory in that classic “Just got off the bus in Hollywood" way.


    What do you think about Cosby’s new show?

    He’s going to be Dr Huxtable again, right? And that’s what the USA thinks he is. They think he’s Dr. Huxtable...

    Do you think he’ll ever respond to your allegations?

    Cosby told reporters [in 2005] that he didn’t remember my name. I don’t really think it was my name he was interested in!

    Once I ran into him in a hallway in Las Vegas and pointed at him and began screaming ‘Rapist! Liar! Asshole!” and he and his whole entourage ran and hid in the bathroom! I told him the last time I saw him that I was going to tell everyone in the world.

    If [my story] weren’t true, why won’t he accept my invitation to take a public lie detector test? The offer is still on the table. Bill Cosby has done great things for the country, he’s provided hope to the poor and education for the worthy, but he’s also an old wanker and an assaulter.

    The trauma of [that] assault never goes away... It’s as fresh in my mind as it was the next day. And women all over the country live with that.

    Cosby’s publicist gave Newsweek this statement: “This is a 10-year-old, discredited accusation that proved to be nothing at the time, and is still nothing.”

    Tamara Green Talks About Bill Cosby
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    I think pudding someone to sleep so that he can take advantage of them is exactly the kind of thing I would expect from a Jello spokesperson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I think pudding someone to sleep so that he can take advantage of them is exactly the kind of thing I would expect from a Jello spokesperson.
    dude, you're making rape jokes where's the list?
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    A similar thing happened a couple of years ago with Morgan Freeman. Not rape, but the whole granddaughter fucking thing. Something along these lines. I don't remember it well because it was not reported on after maybe 2 days, if that. I vaguely recall him scoffing and saying it was bullshit.

    Funny how it always doesn't matter if you're a living legend and/or just super famous. Hell, it doesn't seem to matter anyway.
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    I haven't forgotten Cosby has been accused of multiple sexual assaults and all of it got swept under the rug, but stuff like this, right now, feels a lot like 'let's take the focus off Woody Allen and put it on the black guy'. That said, as far as I'm concerned Cosby is as big of a scumbag as WA until proven otherwise.

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    I remember the story of Morgan Freeman living and screwing the girl raised as a grand daughter. And I remember the stories of Bill Cosby and his affairs,....but not the date rape and drugging. Whoa! I can believe it though. ...I always got a smug and pervey vibe from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    I haven't forgotten Cosby has been accused of multiple sexual assaults and all of it got swept under the rug, but stuff like this, right now, feels a lot like 'let's take the focus off Woody Allen and put it on the black guy'. That said, as far as I'm concerned Cosby is as big of a scumbag as WA until proven otherwise.
    If that was the purpose they certainly could have found a "black guy" of greater relevance.
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