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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    That crossed my mind too--by taking this public and asking for donations, it does make me wonder if Stephen is mature enough to make the decision at this time. It could be an act of rebellion against his parents if they aren't financially supporting this.
    This exactly. We don't know Stephan's mental state. If Stephan thinks that sexual reassignment surgery will cure everything in his life, all the problems of adolescence, then he probably shouldn't have surgery yet. I'd be inclined, as a parent, to withhold support if my kid suffered from a variety of issues that may or may not stem from his or her sexual identity.

    Get to a stable place then commit to the surgery. It's too invasive, gory and life changing to perform at the whim of adolescent angst.
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    On a non serious note - I think it's funny that my favorite, Cher, with transgendered child and HWBL's favorite, WB, with possible future transgendered child, had sex when Cher was 16.

    Look back at Chaz' life and all the pain he went through. I hope that Kathlyn/Stephen is getting the right kind and best kind of psychological help for the transition or whatever form it takes. Chaz took drugs, drank and overate but was older and mature by the time he made the decision. If this is what Stephen wants at this age then maybe he won't have to go through years of trying anything to numb the pain. I admire Cher for making one public statement but then she's always has been open with the press - about the things that SHE wants us to know. I'm guessing that WB & AB won't ever need to say something about their personal lives.

    Cher said:

    "She is embarking on a difficult journey, but one that I will support. I respect the courage it takes to go through this transition in the glare of public scrutiny. Although I may not understand, I will strive to be understanding. The one thing that will never change is my abiding love for my child."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    On a non serious note - I think it's funny that my favorite, Cher, with transgendered child and HWBL's favorite, WB, with possible future transgendered child, had sex when Cher was 16.

    Look back at Chaz' life and all the pain he went through. I hope that Kathlyn/Stephen is getting the right kind and best kind of psychological help for the transition or whatever form it takes. Chaz took drugs, drank and overate but was older and mature by the time he made the decision. If this is what Stephen wants at this age then maybe he won't have to go through years of trying anything to numb the pain. I admire Cher for making one public statement but then she's always has been open with the press - about the things that SHE wants us to know. I'm guessing that WB & AB won't ever need to say something about their personal lives.

    Cher said:

    "She is embarking on a difficult journey, but one that I will support. I respect the courage it takes to go through this transition in the glare of public scrutiny. Although I may not understand, I will strive to be understanding. The one thing that will never change is my abiding love for my child."
    Of course you saw them on Oprah years ago, about Chaz coming out as
    a lesbian to Cher, right? I loved Cher for her candor about how shocked
    she was and how shocked she was about being shocked, LOL.
    I wonder if she (or Chaz for that matter) already knew then that it wasn't
    the end of Chaz' journey, yet.
    It's too bad the link to that particular facebook page I read last year
    doesn't exist anymore. Back then, she/he came across as annoyed
    that the rumors about her/him existed (I'm talking about Kathlyn/
    Stephen now). But then: if you don't want people to discuss things
    don't post on a public forum..... She/he was 17 when I read the page.

    Interesting responses on these sites:

    Source: The Billerico Project, daily experiments in LGBTQ

    Meet Stephen Ira Beatty, America's second most-famous trans man
    Filed by: Alex Blaze
    June 20, 2010 4:00 PM


    Not everyone has the most supportive parents:

    Kathlyn Beatty, 18, is now known as Stephen Ira and is said to be
    planning a sex-change operation.

    According to reports in the U.S., Hollywood veteran Beatty, 73, is
    'crushed' by his child's determination to change her gender.

    Meanwhile Miss Bening, 52, who starred in American Beauty, is trying
    to support her daughter as best she can, despite finding the situation
    heartbreaking.

    The National Enquirer reported that the teenager was currently attending
    college dressed as a man.

    Waiting until he turns 18 to come out and live his life as he wants to isn't
    exactly a sign of the most supportive parents, especially considering the
    Daily Mail says:


    'He and Annette have tried to deal with this over the years when
    their daughter was younger, but she's determined to go ahead with
    the transgender operation, just like Chastity [Bono].

    'She repeatedly told her parents that once she turns 18 she would
    take matters into her own hands.'


    And who know what the Beatty's were doing to keep this hush-hush
    before Stephen turned 18. Now that he's an adult, though....

    Hopefully his parents will eventually come around and become come
    supportive advocates for transgender rights as well.

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    Cute! He looks like Justin Bieber with a haircut...
    Wilson46201 | June 20, 2010 5:52 PM


    I'm not sure that's a good thing, Wilson. Justin Bieber creeps me out.
    Jerame Davis | June 20, 2010 6:01 PM

    Someone beat me to it. I was about to ask why a pic of Justin Bieber
    (who I wish Bill Hicks had lived to comment on) was accompanying this
    post.
    Kat | June 21, 2010 1:18 PM

    Assuming that this story is true, a father being crushed at his child's
    gender transition is not necessarily an inappropriate reaction. After all,
    a parent has a lifetime of experience and expectations for their child,
    and alot of emotional investment in the relationship. Being crushed is a
    genuine emotional response, not a judgement. If the parent actively
    interferes with the transition process, that's another matter.

    People who don't have gender issues aren't equipped to understand what
    it means for those of us who do, and haven't had the same amount of time
    and preparation to process the information as the person presenting it.

    And while Stephen has the potential of becoming a famous transman, right
    now he isn't. Perhaps the hyperbole of dubbing him the second most famous
    one in this country is designed to pique interest in the article, or a
    prediction.

    If the Beattys aren't as supportive of Stephen as they might be, there's
    always Aunt Shirley. I can't imagine that she wouldn't embrace Stephen
    with all her heart. Having said that, I'll have to admonish myself with what
    I tell people who make assumptions about how those in their lives will react
    to their coming out as trans: you never know. Invariably, there will be
    people you expect to be supportive who aren't, and those who you just
    know who won't be, are. That's the wacky world of gender!
    Rory | June 20, 2010 7:22 PM

    I disagree completely. A parent openly declaring to the media that he
    is "crushed" by his child's development as a healthy human being is
    being unspeakably selfish, and is obviously concerned solely with taking
    the opportunity to wage emotional welfare against his child.
    Desiree | June 20, 2010 8:49 PM

    Desiree, your conclusion is dependent on the assumption that Beatty
    made an open statement to the press about his son's transition. I think
    this is highly doubtful. If he had, it would have been covered by all of
    the media, not just one British newspaper. Further, Beatty has a very
    long history of being especially private and not speaking to the press.

    So we don't know if the statement is true, and if it is, someone was likely
    speaking out of school.
    Rory | June 21, 2010 4:32 PM

    I can say from personal experience the truth of reactions on the part of
    people to the news of someone coming out as Trans. Sadly more often
    than not they would rather you continued to live in agony than try to
    seek a correction to that, adding to the misunderstanding surrounding
    the condition of being Transgender. When they should if they wished
    to help someone show support and learn the truth so that the ignorance
    about it might someday come to an end.
    Joanna Sue | June 20, 2010 10:16 PM

    Can we help the family? Send some Trans 101 stuff to them so they can
    get a clue?
    Maybe a copy of "True Selves"?

    OK, they're famous, Icons, symbols yada yada. They're also human.
    Maybe we can make the world just a little better.
    Zoe Brain | June 20, 2010 9:12 PM

    For the Beatty's, getting in touch with Trans Youth Family Allies would
    be a good start. Kim Pearson has done the good, hard work in educating
    folks around the issue of transgender children. The Beatty's could do a
    lot worse than turning to TYFA for support.
    Renee Thomas | June 20, 2010 11:11 PM

    Let's see, this story is from which publication... oh yes, the Enquirer—
    an outstanding and highly accurate weekly journal. (sic)

    1) It's not news, Steven's public trans ID is two years old and was widely
    published in 2008. I think his parents have done an amazing job not
    allowing his life to become a media circus.

    2) Who cares if he's celebrity spawn... do NOT, I repeat, do NOT parade
    him around at GLAAD Media Awards and other fund raising events like a
    trained monkey. He's a kid, not an expert and not a "prize catch."

    3) Of course he's not going to get SRS, If anything, I'm sure he's just
    getting top surgery first as every other trans guy does who does a
    surgical transition.

    4) No one has ANY idea how his parents are reacting to his transition.
    It's just as likely his parents are upset about his story being pasted all
    over the Enquirer (or here) than him transitioning. I hope he can do this
    without having his college life f*cked up by paparazzi and bored gay
    bloggers.
    ginasf | June 20, 2010 11:45 PM

    Gina, top surgery is considered SRS for guys according to the Benjamin
    Standards. Granted, breasts aren't genitals, but the powers that be give
    them the same import when their on someone who was born with a female
    body.
    Rory | June 20, 2010 11:56 PM

    "Gina, top surgery is considered SRS for guys according to the Benjamin
    Standards. Granted, breasts aren't genitals, but the powers that be give
    them the same import when their on someone who was born with a female
    body."

    Rory, don't even get me started on that one. The WPATH does state
    something like that and it's absurd. Top surgery is more akin to FFS.
    SRS for trans men should be a Hysto/Oophorectomy (which is akin to an
    Orchiectomy in MTFs) or a Meta. But I don't want to derail the focus away
    from Steven and coverage of his personal journey.
    ginasf | June 21, 2010 10:41 AM

    "Gina, top surgery is considered SRS for guys according to the Benjamin
    Standards. Granted, breasts aren't genitals, but the powers that be give
    them the same import when their on someone who was born with a female
    body."

    Rory, don't even get me started on that one. The WPATH does state
    something like that and it's absurd. Top surgery is more akin to FFS.
    SRS for trans men should be a Hysto/Oophorectomy (which is akin to an
    Orchiectomy in MTFs) or a Meta. But I don't want to derail the focus away
    from Steven and coverage of his personal journey.

    Let's just say the press coverage isn't talking about top surgery or what is
    or isn't SRS, they're ALWAYS interested in genitals.
    ginasf | June 21, 2010 10:43 AM

    They are not the only celebrity family dealing with this. Chaz Bono is right
    in the same city, as are plenty of support groups and individuals who have
    gone through transition.

    Chaz is in his forties, I would think Stephen Ira's health options are better,
    being so much younger. Chaz is also m-f so having had the experience is a
    plus for similarities.
    And having famous parents.

    I don't know what to say about his parents being 'crushed'.

    Marie Osmond's son took a header from a balcony and died at age 18 while
    attending fashion school here in Los Angeles.

    And Michael Douglas's son Cameron is going to be serving about 5-10 years
    in prison on drug trafficking/abuse charges.

    I'd say that there are worse things that happen to the young ones than
    being trans gender. Which can't even be called bad thing.

    Adjusting to it is possible, and recommended. And Stephen can get on with
    his life. This is about HIS happiness, not theirs, when it's all said and done.
    And best to them all.
    Regan DuCasse | June 21, 2010 11:06 AM

    He's a little hottie is what he is! Yowza!
    Bil Browning | June 21, 2010 3:10 PM

    Bil, stop perving over the child. :-( Yeesh.
    ginasf | June 21, 2010 4:32 PM
    Source: Queerty.com

    How Well Are Warren Beatty And Annette Bening Coping With Their Transgender Son?

    Rumor has it Warren Beatty and Annette Bening's biological daughter, born
    Kathlyn Beatty, has been living life as Stephen and wants a sex-change
    operation now that he's 18. Stephen's celebrity parents had allegedly pulled
    him from the Buckley School in Los Angeles to home school him out of the
    public eye, because who needs another reason for prying eyes to infiltrate
    the privacy of your celebrity bubble?

    "Warren Beatty is beside himself over the situation," a supposed "source"
    tells The National Enquirer. "He and Annette have tried to deal with this
    over the years when their daughter was younger, but she's determined
    to go ahead with the transgender operation, just like Chastity [Chaz Bono]."

    It makes sense that Stephen's parents would want to protect him from the
    creepy paparazzi as a child, but now that Stephen's 18 why hasn't he gone
    ahead with the full transition? Have Beatty and Bening discouraged Stephen
    to go through it or are they keeping the young man hidden from view so he
    can experience the transformation on his own terms? Raising a trans child
    presents its own challenges. But maybe Stephen could team up with Chaz
    as a sort of trans celebrity big brother for support and advice. After all,
    Chaz would be a much better choice than the star of Killer Drag Queens on
    Dope Alexis Arquette.

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    No. 1 · ryanthehulk
    I'm just going to assume they are doing it to try and protect their child
    until I hear different.
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    No. 2 · Fitz

    "It makes since that Stephen's parents would want to protect her from
    the creepy paparazzi, but maybe they need to take a crash course on
    trans children"

    You might want to lay off telling parents that they need a crash course
    when at a queer blog you can't even get the pronouns right.
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    No. 3 · scott ny'er

    Wow. It's really interesting to me that kids so young are set on having
    the operation. It speaks volumes and yet, I still am concerned for the
    kids because I do think the operation is a one-time deal.
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    No. 4 · Fitz

    @scott ny'er: Well, really it is in phases.. but still, i agree with your point.
    I would love to hear from some of the "butch dyke" crowd, to see if they
    are feeling pressure.

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    No. 5 · Baxter

    I think having a transgender child would be tough for even the best,
    most accepting parents at first. Cut them some slack and give them
    some time. It's not like they're throwing him out of the house or anything.
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    No. 6 · counterpoll

    Shame on you Queerty! A tabloid rumor from the National Enquirer about
    a child, with NO evidence. This really is a new low on the morality/ethical
    charts. You jumped the shark of snark.

    Dig up all the dirt you want on Celebs, but don't drag the kids into it unless
    that child agrees — and is no longer a minor.

    IF it is a true story, and When/If the parents wish to discuss the situation,
    then cover it with some sensitivity.

    Do you realize that your site is complicating this young person's rumored
    transition? Adding unnecessary complications of media attention is cruel.

    Chaz Bono was an adult when she made her decisions public: this situation
    involves a much younger person who does NOT need personal info
    speculated about.

    Until then, notify your legal team, your financial backers, your
    "advertisers"–your priests, pastors, rabbis, dealers and yoga instructors
    and your Moms/Dads– that you now operate in the murky blogdom world
    along side P_r_ z H_lt_n and practice similar "ethics" Except he's got
    milliions of readers and you have at least 1000, although 1/3 of them are
    sockpuppers of J_s_n –or– An_r_wW!

    Retaction is in order. Just delete the thread.
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    No. 7 · TommyOC

    @scott ny'er: "I do think the operation is a one-time deal."

    I've never seen a medical textbook before, but I'm pretty sure you're right.
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    No. 8 · counterpoll

    It's unethical to spread rumours about a child but not knowing BENING is
    Annette's surname, well, that's just sloppy.
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    No. 9 · Dick

    I believe you meant to say "It makes sense" and not" It makes since "
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    No. 10 · jimstoic

    I have a friend who is a very liberal lesbian who gave up a daughter
    for adoption as an infant. The child knew quite young that he was really
    a boy. He eventually made contact with his birth mother, when he was
    about 14. Even then he wanted surgery. It was difficult for his lesbian
    mother to accept that her girl wanted to have her breasts removed
    and to become a boy. It's important to respect the trans person's process,
    but the parents have a process as well, and we need to respect that, too,
    as long as it doesn't harm the child.
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    Warren Beatty: actor, director, writer, producer.

    ***** celeb

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    Doesn't a person who wants to change genders have to go through a lot of therapy first? I don't know if that's been answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly_On_TheWall View Post
    Doesn't a person who wants to change genders have to go through a lot of therapy first? I don't know if that's been answered.
    In Thailand, doctors will do male to female surgery on a teenager. Reputable US doctors make you live for 18 months as your new gender, with intensive therapy, before doing surgery. As demand becomes greater, the guidelines get pushed aside. There's no authority out there saying that transgendered people MUST have therapy before surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeminx View Post
    The parents are probably devasted because their child will be thought of as a freak by many if not most.

    There is a transgender (male to female) in our community, but he's clearly a man, but with boobs, and he's looked upon as a freak. Some of the looks he/she gets from other men is scary. And women laugh at him. Its probably a lonely life.
    She's braver than all of them put together.
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    Damn right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmlok View Post
    She's braver than all of them put together.
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    Meh,I wish Stephen well.Warren Beatty has always been a major asshole anyway.
    eat a hot bowl of dicks.

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    ANNETTE BENING and WARREN BEATTY at odds over their daughter's transgender op!

    Annette is throwing her support - and her pocketbook - behind daughter Kathlyn's decision to become a man…and she's desperately trying to convince her husband Warren Beatty to do the same.

    The Kids Are All Right beauty has agreed to pay for Kathlyn's transgender surgery, a family pal revealed.

    As The ENQUIRER was the first to report, Kathlyn, 18, has been living as "Stephen" for over a year in preparation for gender reassignment - a decision that's left her famous father heartbroken.

    "Annette accepts that Kathlyn wants to surgically become a man, while Warren is still trying to come to terms with it."

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    Last Updated: 4:09 AM, September 16, 2010
    Posted: 12:16 AM, September 16, 2010

    What does Annette Bening have to hide?

    Reporters at the Deauville Film Festival in France -- where Bening was promoting "The Kids Are All Right," the movie in which she plays a lesbian mother -- were shocked when organizers warned them not to ask the actress any questions about her family, and specifically about her husband, Warren Beatty.

    "The blackout immediately amped up speculation by the press corps of an impending split," said one journalist.

    Beatty has been notably absent as Bening has traveled the world promoting her latest film, which features a steamy Sapphic sex scene with Julianne Moore. The couple has barely been seen together except for a sighting at the Ago restaurant in LA on Aug. 7.

    The National Enquirer reported last month that Bening and Beatty are fighting and finger-pointing over their daughter, Kathlyn, 18, and her plans to have gender-reassignment surgery.

    Kathlyn, the eldest of four kids, allegedly has been living as a man for two years under the name Stephen Ira, and is now in college awaiting sex-change operations. The Enquirer reports Bening has agreed to pay for the surgery.

    "Annette accepts that Kathlyn wants to surgically become a man, while Warren is still trying to come to terms with it," a source allegedly told the weekly.

    Bening's publicist Simon Halls told Page Six: "Ridiculous. She was there to promote two films and that's what she did." Reps for Beatty didn't return calls for comment. Stephen Ira couldn't be reached.

    Meanwhile, the Deauville Film Festival, in its 36th year, appears to be a victim of tighter budgets. "Where are the stars? The studios have opted to go to closer-to-home Toronto instead," said one source. "If the festival goes on like this, it won't go on much longer."


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    Oh you're right. But maybe this could open a door for her!

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    maybe that daughter isn't Warren's at all!

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