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    i am a HUGE TK fan. while i may not agree with a lot of things he says and does, he is a great entertainer, and always stands behind what he says.

    ETA: where was this commentary when the song came out in 2003.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msdebagain View Post
    i am a HUGE TK fan. while i may not agree with a lot of things he says and does, he is a great entertainer, and always stands behind what he says.
    I don't see standing by what he says as a positive attribute when he says stupid shit like, Obama, "talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian." as if Toby Keith is an expert on Blackness and we all need his commentary on how white or black people are acting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherrybaby View Post
    I don't see standing by what he says as a positive attribute when he says stupid shit like, Obama, "talks, acts and carries himself as a Caucasian." as if Toby Keith is an expert on Blackness and we all need his commentary on how white or black people are acting.
    i'm not making this a debate about white vs black. i'm saying he'll speak his mind, and not back down because someone is unhappy with it. thats all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynnieD View Post
    I am not a country music fan, never will be. I just asked him if he had any dirt on him (as he is close friends with the people that 'handle' the talent when they are the casino) and he didn't...but he is going to check....and get back to me.
    I HATE THIS GUY. He's such a douche!!!
    I can't wait till you get the dirt on this Jackhole!!!
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    I've heard this song a million times and never taken it the way this implies. When people talk about lynching people from a tall oak in my neck of the woods(The soweth), they are talking about vigilante justice, not racist hate crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msdebagain View Post
    i'm not making this a debate about white vs black.
    It's too bad Toby didn't do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msdebagain View Post
    i am a HUGE TK fan. while i may not agree with a lot of things he says and does, he is a great entertainer, and always stands behind what he says.
    So did Hitler. So does Al Sharpton. Ignorant people have no idea why they are branded with said label. Anyone who knowingly backs an ignorant person's encourages them to move forward with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhateverLolaWants View Post
    I've heard this song a million times and never taken it the way this implies. When people talk about lynching people from a tall oak in my neck of the woods(The soweth), they are talking about vigilante justice, not racist hate crimes.
    I am from the south, too. The deep south. There are people here who will make Douchebag look like Mother Teresa.

    Hanging someone from a tall oak can refer to justice, but there is no denying racists till this day use hanging and items associated with the act in racist terms. There are several cases in the south right now in which employers are being sued because of racial discrimination on the job. Minority employees found nooses in their lockers, desks, etc.

    The same words can mean a million different things based on inflection and the person who speaks them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IceQueen View Post
    Amen,
    To those who are agreeing "whiskey for my men, beer for my horses" oh no, must be racial overtones there too! Save the children.
    Plus, "whiskey for my men"?? What about for the women? He's obviously also sexist! AND an animal abuser, giving his horses beer!

    Seriously, though, I've always thought he was an ass and the song has made me uncomfortable since it first came out several years ago. Between that and the "boot in your ass" song, he lost me as a fan. His Obama comments are moronic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevellingInSane View Post
    He carries himself like a caucasian?

    WTF does that even mean? Let's take Obama and compare him to a caucasian such ass...oh Toby Douchebag.

    Obama is educated, well-spoken, successful, and eloquent.

    Douchebag is tacky, uneducated, and an insulting instigator of discord.


    His ignorance is quite apparent in

    Someone please teach this backwoods moron proper subject verb agreement. He should not insinuate blacks, or other minorities, who know "He don't" is incorrect, are less articulate than caucasians who butcher the language. Maybe "does not" exceeds his brain's maximum character count.

    Should I assume when someone is said to "act" caucasian they are ignorant, rebellious, and quasi-anarchist, if I use Keith as the basis for my assumptions on the typical caucasian male?

    Luckily, I am not as ignorant as Keith.

    Country music is filled with racists. Why does this shock anyone?

    On the other hand, listening the references in the song could be taken as pointing to the times of the Wild West, pre automobile. Saloons? Definitely 1800s, as speakeasies and bars would have been around in the early 1900s. Hanging was the punishment of the west, even for some, now considered, minor infractions.

    I, however, do believe he used the Wild West as a smokescreen to tinge his song with his racist BS. Gangsters? I never heard the wild bunch referred to in that term, which gained popularity in the early part of the twentieth century with the mob.
    I listen to Country music, go to concerts, and there is a lot of it on my ipod. It's not filled with racists, but just like in all genres it has it's bias'(If you remember when it was announced that Jay-Z was going to play Glatonsbury, the guy from Oasis said his type of music didn't belong). I have been to many Country artist concerts, from here to VA and I've never had a problem with any of the concert goers. I started disliking TK after 9/11, and then the Dixie Chick incident sealed the deal. I am a Chicks fan, and you don't mess with them. I can recite songs from Sin Wagon, to 'I'm here for the party'... And I have never heard crap like this..
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    Quote Originally Posted by msdebagain View Post
    i am a HUGE TK fan. while i may not agree with a lot of things he says and does, he is a great entertainer, and always stands behind what he says.

    ETA: where was this commentary when the song came out in 2003.
    He may not have meant it as racist, but it makes me uncomfortable. When I visited the south in the 60's as a child I was shocked. Even at the age of 10 I knew what I was seeing was wrong. I don't think people change much inside. It will take a few generations. It is bigoted of me, but when I hear "south" racist comes to mind. The wording under your avatar makes me uncomfortable too. I live in San Diego and I'm white as snow but I know what you think when I see those feelings about Mexicans spelled out.
    If I can't be a good example, then let me be a horrible warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSDiva View Post
    I listen to Country music, go to concerts, and there is a lot of it on my ipod. It's not filled with racists, but just like in all genres it has it's bias'(If you remember when it was announced that Jay-Z was going to play Glatonsbury, the guy from Oasis said his type of music didn't belong). I have been to many Country artist concerts, from here to VA and I've never had a problem with any of the concert goers. I started disliking TK after 9/11, and then the Dixie Chick incident sealed the deal. I am a Chicks fan, and you don't mess with them. I can recite songs from Sin Wagon, to 'I'm here for the party'... And I have never heard crap like this..
    I am not referring to only country artists of late. Over the years, many country artists have alluded to "old southern" values. Oasis' bigoted remarks may mean there are racists in England. The Jay-Z incident may very well have been the fact the Gallaghers still believe they are relevant and didn't want someone with more fame around them.

    I am a country fan as well. I have been to concerts. I have long been a fan of Garth Brooks, Colin Raye, Tanya Tucker, etc. In this area of the south, a minority at a country concert does not have to worry about the singers or their crew, but the ignorant fans have no issues showing their beliefs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nana55 View Post
    He may not have meant it as racist, but it makes me uncomfortable. When I visited the south in the 60's as a child I was shocked. Even at the age of 10 I knew what I was seeing was wrong. I don't think people change much inside. It will take a few generations. It is bigoted of me, but when I hear "south" racist comes to mind. The wording under your avatar makes me uncomfortable too. I live in San Diego and I'm white as snow but I know what you think when I see those feelings about Mexicans spelled out.
    you know my feelings are not racist when it comes to illegals. i get very angry when i have to take a backseat to someone because i dont speak spanish. i hate that everything is about race anymore. i understand peoples feelings, but it doesnt mean i have to like it. i'm not blind to any thing, and i feel horrible at things that people have to put up with to live in this country. but, sometimes i do feel as though i have been lost in the shuffle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonjaLasagna View Post
    I can't wait till you get the dirt on this Jackhole!!!
    DAMMIT!!! So Hub and I were out tonight w/the ONE of the guys that deals with the 'talent' and I GRILLED him about this loser. I did. I asked him every way I could about TK. The guy had nothing......I'm like COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So...

    THAT guy was gonna do some digging. Because I told him about TK's idiot comments and said that shit aint cool......though, who knows. Sorry.

    Wish I had better shit.

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    Former card-carrying Toby Keith fan here. I have every CD he's ever put out. He's been around for a long time- he's not new country.

    No way do I think he is racist. He does have a genius for getting negative publicity.

    I have lived in the South all my life. I consider racism the ultimate expression of ignorance. And the South does not have the market cornered on ignorance.

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    He comes across as an inbred racist hick. Sorry, but the guy is a pig.

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