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    Don't you include intent in the defence because if you did, it seems to me they would conflict?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickiDrea View Post
    ^ Not really. I've had plenty of cases where I've argued two potential defenses... as long as the defenses don't conflict with each other it's fine. "It was an accident but even if it wasn't I did nothing wrong" is a viable defense.
    What is your take on this case? With what little we know as the public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickiDrea View Post
    ^ Not really. I've had plenty of cases where I've argued two potential defenses... as long as the defenses don't conflict with each other it's fine. "It was an accident but even if it wasn't I did nothing wrong" is a viable defense.
    How often did it work out for you? I'm not saying this in a bitchy way either, just curious.
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    What a load of bullshit he's spouting, he could have driven away, he instigated it by driving up to the guy in the first place. If he was that worried he would have driven off in the other direction. This loser has been given far too many chances already, he has zero credibility.
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    Suge Knight

    Hit & Run Victim Told Cops

    'I Fu**ed Him Up!'

    3/17/2015 3:27 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

    breaking news

    The guy who survived the Suge Knight hit and run proudly told deputies ... he attacked Suge with a flurry of punches right before getting run over.
    According to investigator's docs ... Cle "Bone" Sloan was still in his hospital bed when he described the incident to cops by saying, "I fu**ed him up!"
    In the docs, Sloan adds he punched Suge several times through the driver side window ... and when Suge tried to exit his truck ... he punched him some more. That part of Sloan's story matches exactly with the surveillance video TMZ first posted of the incident.
    But Sloan also told investigators he was attempting to walk away from the truck when he was hit -- but in the video he still appears to be fighting when Suge throws the truck in reverse and smashes Sloan.
    Another inconsistency ... Sloan says he arrived at the Tam's parking lot AFTER Suge. In the video ... Sloan is waiting right next to the parking lot when Suge pulls up.
    Suge has claimed he only ran over Sloan and Terry Carter in self-defense ... believing they were getting ready to shoot him.



    Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz3Uh6VH28g

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprynkles View Post
    What is your take on this case? With what little we know as the public?
    Sorry, just read this thread again. Honestly, I don't know enough about the case to comment fairly on it. I didn't watch the video either as I try to avoid that kind of stuff when I'm not at work. But I read that he backed over one of the people after hitting them? That seems like a bad fact!

    This case will come down to intent and whether his actions were justified under the circumstances. Either his defense is that he had no intent to hurt these people (shaky, as he ran them over with a car) or that he did have the intent to run them over but was justified in doing so. He could technically argue both defenses but I think it would be dangerous. Based on the bare bone facts of what I know about the case, I'd argue self defense and try to get in evidence about the bad character of the victims. Unfortunately for Suge, he's known as being a violent thug and that will not work in his favor. This may not end well for him.

    I've won and lost dual defense cases. I've argued that police are lying and even if you believed them it still has to be a not guilty because of sufficiency (won that). I've argued that a victim in a robbery case misidentified my client but even if the identification was correct it has to be a not guilty because my client was merely present at the scene (so in that case I argued that my client was AND wasn't at the scene of the crime) and won. But I've definitely lost dual defense cases too. I think that in many cases dual defense cases should not be tried in front of juries because they are easily confused by such defenses and they will just write your client off as as liar trying to throw up any defense that he/she can. Judges sitting as the fact finder tend to be a little better with those kinds of cases IMO.

    Edit: just read the last post before mine. I agree with his defense as being the best one. And the victim apparently just made the prosecutor's case a lot harder.
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    Suge collapsed in court this morning after his bail was set at $25M.

    Suge Knight -- Collapses in Court Nailed with $25 MILLION Bail | TMZ.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurent View Post
    Suge collapsed in court this morning after his bail was set at $25M.

    Suge Knight -- Collapses in Court Nailed with $25 MILLION Bail | TMZ.com
    Such a pussy.
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    Yep, how can you be a bad ass thug if you get a case of the vapors in court?
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    Haha.
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    My hubby just caught up to the story now. He said,"who's surge knight?" Lol. He's funny.

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    $25 million is excessive bail in this case, even if he initially fled the scene of the crime.
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    Wouldn't his history and priors figure into setting bail? He has spent a disproportionate amount if his adult life convicted and jailed.
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