Snoop Dogg: Ugly women don't sell records

**bychance** · March 27th, 2008, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Palermo

I judge the way a person sings when all that background noise and thumping is removed. If you do that, no, Madonna, Britney, Janet cannot sing worth a damn. They are mostly whispering and all the commotion makes you think something is happening. Janet is mostly whispering words, not singing.

Janet - Love Will Never Do (Without You) A Capella

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Aaliyah - Radio A capella

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Now take it back

*DIVA! · March 27th, 2008, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by bychance

BULLSHIT.
The One I Gave My Heart To
At Your Best
One In A Million
Rock The Boat
More Than A Woman
Back and Forth
Age ain't nothing but a number
Its Whatever
I Miss You
Come on over
Back At One Piece
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
4 Page Letter
If Your Girl Only Knew
Choosy Lover

Talking????? I think not my friend. I rather believe the rumor that Aaliyah had a blind eye which is why she always covered it with her hair than believe she cannot sing and she "talks". Leave that talking to Ciara.

<ducking> Aaliyah wasn't a great singer, she was an alright singer...

**bychance** · March 27th, 2008, 08:13 PM

you can do better than that.

**sparkly** · March 27th, 2008, 08:15 PM

^You crack me up, Bychance. I adore the way you vehemently defend Janet and Aaliyah.

It makes me want to like them more.

**RevellingInSane** · March 27th, 2008, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by bychance

BULLSHIT.
The One I Gave My Heart To
At Your Best
One In A Million
Rock The Boat
More Than A Woman
Back and Forth
Age ain't nothing but a number
Its Whatever
I Miss You
Come on over
Back At One Piece
Are You That Somebody
Try Again
4 Page Letter
If Your Girl Only Knew
Choosy Lover

Talking????? I think not my friend. I rather believe the rumor that Aaliyah had a blind eye which is why she always covered it with her hair than believe she cannot sing and she "talks". Leave that talking to Ciara.

NO GREAT TALENT! R KELLY, 'NUFF SAID!

I have heard every song you listed. Who the hell said Ciara was any better? Aaliyah, Rihanna, Ciara: looks definitely helped them. Very attractive, yes. Great voices? HELL NO! Aaliyah was ok, tolerable, which is more than I can say for some of the others screeching on the radio today.

What does her hair have to do with her voice? I'd rather hear someone who was wonk or cock eyed and could sing. I can always shut my eyes and listen.

Sorry, my friend, but I stick by what I said. She wasn't great. Ok, like someone said, but nothing above that.

Great singers are people like Whitney (BC), Martha Wash, Aretha...

**bychance** · March 27th, 2008, 10:06 PM

IMO, there are more than one way to sing. You don't have to shout and holler to be considered as a great singer.

The hair comment was a joke, there was a rumor that Liyah was blind in one eye which is why she always covered it with her parted hair, lol. With the exception of marrying R.Kelly, that was basically the only rumor that swarmed around her.

*DIVA! · March 27th, 2008, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by RevellingInSane

NO GREAT TALENT! R KELLY, 'NUFF SAID!

I have heard every song you listed. Who the hell said Ciara was any better? Aaliyah, Rihanna, Ciara: looks definitely helped them. Very attractive, yes. Great voices? HELL NO! Aaliyah was ok, tolerable, which is more than I can say for some of the others screeching on the radio today.

What does her hair have to do with her voice? I'd rather hear someone who was wonk or cock eyed and could sing. I can always shut my eyes and listen.

Sorry, my friend, but I stick by what I said. She wasn't great. Ok, like someone said, but nothing above that.

Great singers are people like Whitney (BC), Martha Wash, Aretha...

You are correct! Let's not forget Patti..

**maxeythecat** · March 27th, 2008, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by sparkly

Hell no. Not even Janet's as bad as she is.

But, the difference between Madonna and all these other um...."singers" is that she herself admits in the press that she's not all that good. She's aware of her limitations and is honest about it ...well, a helluva lot more honest than the rest of 'em anyway.

**sparkly** · March 27th, 2008, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by maxeythecat

But, the difference between Madonna and all these other um...."singers" is that she herself admits in the press that she's not all that good. She's aware of her limitations and is honest about it ...well, a helluva lot more honest than the rest of 'em anyway.

ITA, that's why I can at least stomach her. Some of the others, not so much. I respect Madonna for knowing how to work the press and gain notoriety for things other than her music. She's become a true powerhouse.
The others just seem to think we're all stupid and won't see them for what they really are: marginally talented girls who use their sex appeal to sell records.

**celeb_2006** · March 27th, 2008, 11:27 PM

I like Aaliyah and her songs.

**RevellingInSane** · March 27th, 2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by SSDiva

You are correct! Let's not forget Patti..

I forgot Patti! *hangs head in shame* Oh, and Anita Baker. Where the hell is she? Sweet Love was the ish!

**Chimera** · March 28th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Chrissie Hynde !!!!!!!!!!!!!

**yoohoo** · March 28th, 2008, 01:47 AM

I have to say I agree with him. Crissy Hynde hasn't had a hit in years. She couldn't make it in today's market.

Sad but true. You have to be pretty--or at least be able to masquerade as pretty--to make it in the modern pop music industry.

**bychance** · March 28th, 2008, 04:23 AM

Hasn't Kelly Clarkson been the most successful AI alumni? She isn't ugly per se, but very homely.

Originally Posted by sparkly

ITA, that's why I can at least stomach her. Some of the others, not so much. I respect Madonna for knowing how to work the press and gain notoriety for things other than her music. She's become a true powerhouse.
The others just seem to think we're all stupid and won't see them for what they really are: marginally talented girls who use their sex appeal to sell records.

So females and gay men must like feminine sex appeal, because that is the majority of Janet's, Madonna's, etc. fanbase, lol.

**sparkly** · March 29th, 2008, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by bychance

Hasn't Kelly Clarkson been the most successful AI alumni? She isn't ugly per se, but very homely.

So females and gay men must like feminine sex appeal, because that is the majority of Janet's, Madonna's, etc. fanbase, lol.

I would say yes, to a degree it is that way. Women are far harsher on other women (especially those who are famous), than they are on men. Men seem to get a free pass when it comes to their looks. But women, on the other hand, get picked apart mercilessly. I don't feel like getting into the reasons why, because it's kind of complicated, but that's just the way it is right now, unfortunately.