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    India Oxenberg says she was ‘systematically groomed’ by Nvixm sex cult

    India Oxenberg says she was brainwashed for nearly five years when she joined the Nxivm sex cult as a teenager.

    “I went into this when I was 19 years old, so very young, and what I didn’t realize is that I was being systematically groomed towards something that would happen later on. Almost five years later,” the 29-year-old told Dr. Ian Smith in a new, hour-long interview on “The Doctors,” set to air on Thursday.

    “So when I first joined, I didn’t really see anything bad. I actually thought it was pretty fine. I had friends there, relationships, I was learning about myself,” she went on, adding that nothing about Nxivm struck her as potentially dangerous at the time.

    “Sure, there were things I didn’t like, but it wasn’t until later that things got more aggressive within DOS, the secret sorority underneath Nxivm,” she said.

    Her mother, “Dynasty” actress Catherine Oxenberg, descrbied Nxivm as manipulating people into thinking they’re special before tearing them down.

    “The way these groups work is, in the beginning, they do something called ‘love-bombing.’ They’re like your instant best friend and they build you up,” Catherine told Smith. “They make you feel very special, they draw you in, they invite you to do all sorts of activities. It’s very seductive.

    “It’s not until way down the line that they start then to criticize — to break you down. So the whole, it is a slow drip.”

    DOS, which stands for Dominant Over Submissive, was a secret subset of the cult run by “Smallville” actress Allison Mack. The women in the group allegedly had to give incriminating information about themselves for “collateral” and were branded with founder Keith Raniere’s initials.

    “It was a trap and a ploy for Keith to enslave women for his own sexual desires,” India said during an interview with “Good Morning America” on Tuesday.

    She also described her sexual relationship with the Nxivm founder as “rape.”

    In June 2019, Raniere was found guilty on all counts for running the upstate New York sex cult. He is currently awaiting sentencing.

    Meanwhile, Seagram’s liquor heiress Clare Bronfman was sentenced to more than six years in prison last month for her role in the sex cult. Mack also pleaded guilty for her role int he group.

    Page Six previously reported that India eventually left Nxivm because she fell in love.

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    ^^^ In one of the episodes of "The Vow" (and I've fallen behind) Catherine Oxenberg confesses to feeling a huge amount of guilt over her daughter's plight. Mainly because Oxenberg got her into it in the first place. She describes herself as a "seeker" and someone who has tried all kinds of different things to pursue enlightenment or something. I'm not sure I remember if Oxenberg herself explained how she didn't get caught up in the group, though. It's very interesting to see someone who I thought of as kind of an airhead back in the 80's, like Oxenberg, turn out to be actually a very circumspect, unpretentious and tenacious person.
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    ^^^
    yeah i liked her a lot too. she's very charismatic. but she also has a bit of narcissist energy. you can see it in almost all the participants in the documentary, and in all the people who joined the cult. they're all a little extra. the seagram sisters were originally introduced to nxivm by their late father, a billionaire tycoon (another prime candidate for narcissistic tendencies, along with actors).
    narcissists are ideal candidates for cults. they're hungry for attention and validation, and power. and they don't have the same sense of boundaries that most people have.
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    I'm glad I came over to this thread because I was going to ask about Catherine Oxenberg. I watched a lot of The Vow when I was probably falling asleep and hadn't remembered that she was the one who initially (and innocently) gotten her daughter involved in this. There's another documentary I came across on Hulu that has maybe 4 episodes and the 1st episode goes into more detail about India Oxenberg's experiences and culpability in the cult, so Catherine does talk a lot about how she was the one who went through some of the initial trainings, too. I don't know how I blocked all that out.

    Definitely agree about cults going after narcissists, but this one in particular is interesting to me because it feels like Raniere was really going after smart, attractive people, almost like he had a type though. I think part of it was that he liked women who were otherwise seemingly pretty strong without all his babble and nonsense and seeing that he could make them do all these otherwise insane things. I know Scientology also goes after actors, but they're not necessarily going after the sharpest crayons in the box. It seems like Scientologists are more likely to prey on less formally educated or well-spoken people and also the majority of "everyday" Scientologists are pretty average looking, run of the mill people. I watch these documentaries about NXIVM and if you look at the crowds, everyone looks like they fell out of some kind of ad or brochure. Maybe one or two average or less attractive people, but everyone else is pretty camera ready, like they're all already wearing the suit.

    And I also think the truth of the matter is that every single one of us has met someone in our personal or professional lives that hoodwinks us like this, maybe because their reputation precedes them. If friends or colleagues you respect keep telling you someone is smart or great at something you kind of believe it until the person's mask slips (quite literally at the moment). It's just that they're only fooling maybe 100 people, not thousands and they aren't capitalizing on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterslide View Post
    I watched a lot of The Vow when I was probably falling asleep .
    The Vow does have (purposefully) a kind of dreamlike or nightmare quality to it. It's worth watching though.
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    I don't think this thread has been updated:

    Nxivm leader Keith Raniere sentenced to 120 years in prison

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    Keith Raniere was sentenced in a Brooklyn court on Tuesday

    The US leader of a sex cult has been sentenced to 120 years in prison.

    Nxivm founder Keith Raniere was convicted last year of racketeering, sex trafficking, child pornography possession and other crimes.

    As leader of the group he recruited women as slaves and forced them to have sex with him.

    Prosecutors said the 60 year old should spend his life behind bars for the "immeasurable damages" he caused to victims of the cult.

    District Judge Nicholas Garaufis also fined Raniere $1.75m (£1.34m) at the sentencing hearing in Brooklyn on Tuesday.

    Raniere himself never took the stand during the case last year. He was the only member of Nxivm's leadership to face trial as others took plea deals.

    His lawyers have maintained his innocence throughout and have blamed a "media campaign involving witnesses who were motivated to testify falsely" for his conviction.

    US authorities began investigating Nxivm - pronounced nexium - after the publication of a New York Times investigation in 2017.

    Based in Albany, New York and created in 1998, the group described itself as a "community guided by humanitarian principles that seek to empower people".

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    Raniere oversaw a "slave and master" system in the group
    According to its tagline, the organisation is "working to build a better world". It says it has worked with more than 16,000 individuals and operates centres across the US, Canada, Mexico and Central America.

    But in reality Raniere sat at the top and controlled female members through a slave and master system. Some women were branded in their pelvic areas with Raniere's initials in filmed ceremonies, while members would gather each year to celebrate and pay for his birthday - an event known as "Vanguard Week".




    One former member testified that she was "groomed" for weeks before she turned 18 so Raniere could take her virginity. Known as Daniela, she told the court that she and her sisters were impregnated by him and forced to have abortions, and that she and one of her sisters - who was underage - were forced to have sex with him a number of times.

    The cult membership reportedly included Hollywood actresses, heiresses and even the son of a former Mexican president - some of whom testified against Raniere in court.

    In 2018 FBI agents arrested Raniere in Mexico after he left the US following the New York Times report.

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    Woman who escaped alleged NXIVM sex "cult" speaks out for the first time

    The woman credited with helping investigators take down the former leader of alleged cult NXIVM has revealed her name, her face and her own story publicly for the first time in an exclusive interview with "CBS This Morning."

    "I finally felt like I was ready. … And my name is Jessica Joan," she told CBS News' Nikki Battiste.

    In her late 20's, Joan, who was referred to in Keith Raniere's arrest warrant as "Jane Doe #2" although her identity was known to investigators, spent time modeling and acting in California. In 2016, she joined the group NXVIM, founded by Raniere in 1998 in Albany, New York. The group was marketed as a self-help organization.

    "I had a really traumatic childhood. The appeal was that they offered something that they said would help you get rid of all your limitations," Joan said.

    Shortly after joining the group, Joan said she was approached by India Oxenberg, the daughter of "Dynasty" actress Catherine Oxenberg, about joining a female-only society within NXIVM called DOS, or The Vow.

    "India described DOS as a secret women's-only mentorship program, much like a secret society… I wanted to surround myself with powerful women and wanted to do great things in the world," she said.

    Joan claims she was forced to hand over compromising photos and videos in order to join the secret society. After joining, the women were organized into levels and given titles such as "masters" and "slave." Shortly after joining DOS, Joan said she was placed on a calorie restriction program that required her to eat only 500 calories a day.

    Allegedly at the top of the organization was Raniere and "Smallville" actress Allison Mack, who purportedly gave Joan a special assignment.

    "The assignment would be to seduce Keith and have him take a naked picture with me," she said.

    It was at that moment Joan said she realized what exactly NXIVM was.

    She said the "whole room started spinning… Everything just started crumbling… For me, it was literally my worst nightmare come to life — that I ended up joining a cult and that the leader behind it wanted to sleep with me."

    Former members of DOS have said, according to court documents, that they were branded with Raniere and Mack's initials and were also coerced into having sexual relations with Raniere. One of those victims was Oxenberg, who said she now believes that Raniere was a pedophile and predator.

    "What I believe [is] DOS was a grooming and filtering system for Keith and his personal desires," Oxenberg has said. Her legal team has not released any additional comments.

    Joan soon came to the same realization, and began to plan her escape. She collected evidence that she would hand over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. That evidence, along with other former group members' testimonies, would lead to Raniere and Mack's arrest.

    Cult specialist Rachel Bernstein is a therapist for eight former members of NXIVM. She said the former group members were made to endure pain at the enjoyment of the leader.

    A jury found him guilty last year of seven charges, including sex trafficking and racketeering, an offense which included the production and possession of child pornography. Raniere was sentenced to 120 years in prison— he has maintained his innocence.

    "He got exactly what he deserves," Joan told CBS News.

    Mack, who pleaded guilty to racketeering, has not yet been sentenced. Joan is hoping that she gets the maximum sentence possible, "so she can spend time thinking about her actions and all of the havoc and destruction that she's caused for myself and many other people."

    During the trial, Joan testified against Raniere. Prosecutor Moira Penza said Joan's testimony reflected "her tremendous bravery."

    "I will always stand up for what's right and no one can ever take my power away," Joan said.

    Since the trial, she has started a new endeavor: A podcast called "The Untouchable Jessica Joan."

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    Joan claims she was forced to hand over compromising photos and videos in order to join the secret society. After joining, the women were organized into levels and given titles such as "masters" and "slave." Shortly after joining DOS, Joan said she was placed on a calorie restriction program that required her to eat only 500 calories a day.
    ^^^ This particular topic comes up a lot in terms of women who joined the inner circle. How is being asked to hand over "compromising photos and videos" to join not a bright red flag? By definition, an empowerment and self-help group would not ask you to do something that would "disempower" you.

    To me, it would be like being asked to join Weight Watchers' inner circle by eating two entire cheesecakes in one sitting. Or joining Alcoholics Anonymous inner circle by drinking a fifth of vodka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    ^^^ This particular topic comes up a lot in terms of women who joined the inner circle. How is being asked to hand over "compromising photos and videos" to join not a bright red flag? By definition, an empowerment and self-help group would not ask you to do something that would "disempower" you.

    To me, it would be like being asked to join Weight Watchers' inner circle by eating two entire cheesecakes in one sitting. Or joining Alcoholics Anonymous inner circle by drinking a fifth of vodka.
    But you are pretty secure in yourself Mo. I would guess that the women who were lured into these groups already had deep seated insecurities and issues that made it easy for a forceful and charismatic personality to overwhelm them in record time, all while telling them that this was for their own good (which is what pretty much every abuser fostering dependence on them says).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    ^^^ This particular topic comes up a lot in terms of women who joined the inner circle. How is being asked to hand over "compromising photos and videos" to join not a bright red flag? By definition, an empowerment and self-help group would not ask you to do something that would "disempower" you.

    To me, it would be like being asked to join Weight Watchers' inner circle by eating two entire cheesecakes in one sitting. Or joining Alcoholics Anonymous inner circle by drinking a fifth of vodka.
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    In 2016, she joined the group NXVIM, founded by Raniere in 1998 in Albany, New York. The group was marketed as a self-help organization.

    "I had a really traumatic childhood. The appeal was that they offered something that they said would help you get rid of all your limitations," Joan said.

    Shortly after joining the group, Joan said she was approached by India Oxenberg, the daughter of "Dynasty" actress Catherine Oxenberg, about joining a female-only society within NXIVM called DOS, or The Vow.

    "India described DOS as a secret women's-only mentorship program, much like a secret society… I wanted to surround myself with powerful women and wanted to do great things in the world," she said.
    She has already got a predisposition due to her childhood.
    She's joined the public organisation, where there is a lot of pressure to complete courses (think Co$ "auditing"), spend $$$, and also recruit friends.
    Then when she's well sucked in, Hollywood "royalty" (literally) approaches her & invites her - hand picks her - to join a special group, creating feelings of belonging and acceptance and maybe sucess...
    The photos are normalised, which women are experts at (did he really say that, do that, touch me where???) and also she would be told that everyone else has already done it so it made to feel odd about not doing it - in this special group that are her new BFFs of successful women....


    And BANG! you are in & brainwashing started when you joined the first group & you didn't even realise it.
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    It's like an MLM scheme but with sex instead of leggings or vitamins.

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    I would rather smear myself in overpowering essential oils every day for the rest of my life than have sex with that repulsive creep.
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    I learn so much from all of you. Some of what I learn is shocking, repellent, and almost unbearably sad, but it's important to know, so thank you for having the courage to explain the inexplicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    ^^^ This particular topic comes up a lot in terms of women who joined the inner circle. How is being asked to hand over "compromising photos and videos" to join not a bright red flag? By definition, an empowerment and self-help group would not ask you to do something that would "disempower" you.

    To me, it would be like being asked to join Weight Watchers' inner circle by eating two entire cheesecakes in one sitting. Or joining Alcoholics Anonymous inner circle by drinking a fifth of vodka.
    When you are surrounded by people you trust, you would fine it cleansing, as in a "I'm no longer held bound by these pictures, the don't define me or shame me, I release their power because here, here we are all the same". And then after the cobwebs clear you realize what you did but it's too late. I'm not sure if that's how they felt, but I can imagine it. Anyhow, that's how I've felt whenever I have overshared information with the wrong type of person.

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    Allison Mack gave prosecutors tape of Nxivm leader talking about branding members

    Nxivm sex-cult “slave master” Allison Mack helped federal prosecutors bolster their case against Keith Raniere by providing them with an audio recording of the leader talking about branding the group’s members, a new report said.

    Mack’s cooperation was revealed in a sentencing memo filed by prosecutors on Monday in which they ask Brooklyn federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis to give the 38-year-old former “Smallville’’ TV actress a reduced sentence in return for her speaking up, according to Variety.com.

    “Although Mack could have provided even more substantial assistance had she made the decision to cooperate earlier, Mack provided significant, detailed and highly corroborated information which assisted the government in its prosecution,” prosecutors said in the memo obtained by the outlet.

    Mack is set to be sentenced June 30 after pleading guilty in April 2019 to racketeering and racketeering conspiracy charges that included extortion and forced labor.

    She confessed to being part of Nxivm’s secret DOS slave-master group in which some members were branded like cattle with Raniere’s initials and blackmailed into having sex with him and others.

    In the audio Mack handed over to prosecutors, she and Raniere could be heard talking about the branding ritual, the report said.


    “Do you think the person who’s being branded should be completely nude and sort of held to the table like a, sort of almost like a sacrifice?” Raniere says in the recording.

    “And the person should ask to be branded,” he adds. “Should say, ‘Please brand me, it would be an honor,’ or something like that. ‘An honor I want to wear for the rest of my life,’ I don’t know … And they should probably say that before they’re held down, so it doesn’t seem like they are being coerced.”

    Raniere was sentenced in October to 120 years in prison.

    https://pagesix.com/2021/06/22/allis...nding-members/

    i'm eager to see what she gets sentenced to because even though she cooperated, she really was in as deep as raniere, based on all of the docs i watched.
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