Seth Rogen Calls Nancy Grace a "F--king Dumbass" Over Anti-Marijuana Tweets

[Novice]

Or maybe the dad was a homicidal maniac and the pot use was coincidental. Conjecture like that is just scaremongering. She's a fucking dumbass.

There is plenty of studies showing the link between aberrant brain development & marijuana use though.... So my vote is that BOTH of these idiots are dumbasses. Twitter is no place to debate this kind of thing due to the medical research & all the stuff that Sput & JKM posted about.

[BoogsBun]

I'm all for the legalization of pot, just because you can tax the shit out of it federally, and through your state. I think it is "fiscally sound" to legalize it. If the government doesn't legalize, that's fine, but they should at least decriminalize it. Where I live, a roach that a roach clip can't even hold, gets you a possession charge, not to mention the roach clip gets you a paraphernalia charge to boot (rolling papers get that charge too btw). Here if you get busted for under an ounce its a class A misdemeanor, over an ounce it's a class D felony.

To make personal pot carrying as illegal as it is, does more harm than good.

[AgentOrange]

I'm still waiting for #Twittertoblame

[Sarzy]

I think it should be legal but I don't think it's harmless. It's very naive to think just because it hasn't had a bad reaction on YOU that it wont on some others.

[Bombshell]

I'm all for the legalization of pot, just because you can tax the shit out of it federally, and through your state. I think it is "fiscally sound" to legalize it. If the government doesn't legalize, that's fine, but they should at least decriminalize it. Where I live, a roach that a roach clip can't even hold, gets you a possession charge, not to mention the roach clip gets you a paraphernalia charge to boot (rolling papers get that charge too btw). Here if you get busted for under an ounce its a class A misdemeanor, over an ounce it's a class D felony.

To make personal pot carrying as illegal as it is, does more harm than good.

I live in a legal state, and it's been working well. The state 2 MILLION in tax revenue the first MONTH. Businesses and employers can still opt to not hire users...it's been just fine here.

[Novice]

Is it legal for everyone or only those with a legitimate medical benefit or a Dr that will sign to that?

[McJag]

Nope. Everyone.

[levitt]

I live in a legal state, and it's been working well. The state 2 MILLION in tax revenue the first MONTH. Businesses and employers can still opt to not hire users...it's been just fine here.

Are you in my heartland state, Bombshell?

[thunder&lightning]

can't stand either one of
them.

[manningmsj]

I agree that pot isn't one size fits all, but I do think violent behavior is an adverse reaction and not the norm. Like someone said earlier, pot is the reason they aren't in jail. When considering the pros and cons of legalisation (which I support), you have to acknowledge both sides. For every person who experiences feelings of rage or psychosis, there are many more who find it therapeutic and feel it helps with psycholgical problems. I think Nancy's comment was overly salacious and ignorant, but Seth's response was petty too. I respect his position, but he also seems like a smart enough guy that he could have expressed his opinion with more than an insult.

On a side note, I envy all you stoners. I have tried it a dozen or so times and every time I get nauseous and puke. I had one good high in college and have never been able to enjoy it again. I still try every few years, just in case. That one time was pretty awesome.

[SHELLEE]

I just don't think marijuana should labeled as dangerous because it may have an adverse affect on someone with mental illness. It's not going to make the average person go berserk. If it's already in you, then yes, it probably will make you more crazy.

[Novice]

It has been proved to change the way the brain develops though.... And that alone sounds pretty dangerous to me.

What about all the increased psychosis amongst "normal" users? I remember hearing about that but not seeing any facts
facts. But shit, this is gosiprocks, not the Lancet......



Here you go, facts

Using cannabis in adolescence increases the likelihood of experiencing symptoms of schizophrenia in adulthood. Our findings agree with those of the Swedish study1 and add three new pieces of evidence. Firstly, cannabis use is associated with an increased risk of experiencing schizophrenia symptoms, even after psychotic symptoms preceding the onset of cannabis use are controlled for, indicating that cannabis use is not secondary to a pre-existing psychosis. Secondly, early cannabis use (by age 15) confers greater risk for schizophrenia outcomes than later cannabis use (by age 18). The youngest cannabis users may be most at risk because their cannabis use becomes longstanding.5 Thirdly, risk was specific to cannabis use, as opposed to use of other drugs, and early cannabis use did not predict later depression. Our findings now require replication in large population studies with detailed measures of cannabis use and schizophrenia.
Cannabis use in adolescence and risk for adult psychosis: longitudinal prospective study | BMJ

[NickiDrea]

Edit: working in the criminal justice system for several years, I have handled thousands of drug cases involving every type of drug you can think of. I have NEVER seen a case involving a defendant alleged to be psychotic due to weed. Not even one. I doubt it's healthy, but it's not worse than alcohol.

And the weed/schizophrenia correlation is still questionable:

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Harvard: Marijuana Doesn’t Cause Schizophrenia

By JOHN M. GROHOL, PSY.D.
Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on December 10, 2013
Good news for people who’ve worried that smoking too much marijuana (cannabis) — especially as a teenager — might lead to some dramatic problems in the future, evenschizophrenia.
New research from Harvard Medical School, in a comparison between families with a history of schizophrenia and those without, finds little support for marijuana use as a cause of schizophrenia.
“The results of the current study suggest that having an increased familial morbid risk for schizophrenia may be the underlying basis for schizophrenia in cannabis users and not cannabis use by itself,” note the researchers.
The new study is the first family study that, according to the researchers, “examines both non-psychotic cannabis users and non-cannabis user controls as two additional independent samples, enabling the examination of whether the risk for schizophrenia is increased in family members of cannabis users who develop schizophrenia compared with cannabis users who do not and also whether that morbid risk is similar or different from that in family members of schizophrenia patients who never used cannabis.”
Marijuana use is becoming increasingly commonplace as two U.S. states have already legalized its use next to alcohol for adults. Some previous studies have suggested that there may be a correlational link between teenage marijuana use and the increased likelihood of being diagnosed with schizophrenia in the future.
So researchers from Harvard Medical School and the VA Boston Healthcare system got together to determine whether family risk for schizophrenia is a crucial factor underlying the association between the development of schizophrenia in teens who smoke marijuana.
The researchers recruited 282 subjects from the New York and Boston metropolitan areas who were divided into four groups: controls with no lifetime history of psychotic illness, cannabis, or any other drug use; controls with no lifetime history of psychotic illness, and a history of heavy cannabis use during adolescence, but no other drug use; patients with no lifetime history of cannabis use or any other drug and less than 10 years of being ill; patients with a history of heavy cannabis use and no other drug use during adolescence and prior to the onset of psychosis.
Information about all first-, second-, and third-degree relatives was obtained, as well as information about any other relative who had a known psychiatric illness. This resulted in information on 1,168 first-degree relatives and a total of 4,291 relatives. The study gathered together information regarding cannabis use, and family history regarding schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, depression and drug abuse.
The researchers concluded that the results of the current study, “both when analyzed using morbid risk and family frequency calculations, suggest that having an increased familial risk for schizophrenia is the underlying basis for schizophrenia in these samples — not the cannabis use.
“While cannabis may have an effect on the age of onset of schizophrenia it is unlikely to be the cause of illness,” said the researchers, who were led by Ashley C. Proal from Harvard Medical School.
“In general, we found a tendency for depression and bipolar disorder to be increased in the relatives of cannabis users in both the patient and control samples. This might suggest that cannabis users are more prone to affective disorders than their non-using samples or vice versa.” Future research is needed to understand this relationship.
Drug abuse also appears to have an important genetic component.
“Drug abuse is present more frequently in family members of all 3 samples compared to those of non-cannabis abusing controls. This is in line with past research confirming a genetic predisposition for drug use.”
The research was published earlier this month in Schizophrenia Research.
Source: Schizophrenia Research

Harvard: Marijuana Doesn’t Cause Schizophrenia | Psych Central News

[SHELLEE]

Well I started about 16 yoa, so I'm good there. Plus I'd rather have natural calming meds as opposed to man made drugs that will kill you. I hate pills. HATE them because they killed one of my brothers. It's all about money IMO.

[Bombshell]

Are you in my heartland state, Bombshell?

A-yup!