Scientology critic Shawn Lonsdale found dead...

[crackho]

Better watch what you say, Grimm. I can feel their presence.

[faithanne]

But the scary thing is, it's true. They might be reading this. Google Keith Henson - he's the guy who made a joke in response to someone else's joke about a Tom Cruise Missile, and the last few years he's either been in prison or on the run because of it.

[crackho]

^^I'm gonna check this out right now....as soon as I see who's pounding on my door......

[GawsipRawksz]

this is probably how most religions started thousands of years ago. killing people who talked bad about it, collecting peoples possessions until the masses started "believing." the fact that it's happening in front of our eyes now is probably what scares us about it.

[Fluffy]

someone ought to burn down all their "churches"

Burn their money. It's all they really care about.

[sparkly]

Ok, now I'm getting nervous.... I wonder if he really committed suicide. How sad.

[bychance]

Wheres Xena when you need her? It is only she who can destroy this cult. (I don't know if anyone here is into Sci-fi/Fantasy, but that does sound like an episode synopsis doesn't it? )

edit
okay, Xenu/Scientology was created by a Sci-fi writer. Well that explains everything. I forgot..

Very fishy. Just like the suicide of that porn broker David Hans Schmidt who tried to extort Tom and Katie.

I was just about to mention him.

[sparkly]

^Wait, what is this all about?

[bychance]

Visit Scientology Kills

Holy shit!!! Was it this guy????

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I am seriously scared shitless of this cult in Clearwater. They have the police in their pocket, they can do whatever they want in that town without disruption, no questions asked.

The guy who made the video of the street festival was Mark Bunker, not Shawn Lonsdale. Mark Bunker is "Wise Beard Man" and runs the xenutv.com site.

Shawn filmed the outside the Scientology building in Clearwater and was harrassed by the cult. He lost his job, the Scientologists had him evicted from his house, and generally tried to make his life miserable. Looks like they succeeded.

They may have murdered him, or they may have driven him to suicide (those who knew him doubt this, but it's never really possible to tell what goes on inside someone's head). But this cult goes to any length to silence people - the internet is full of stories of Scientology contacting a critic's employer and spreading lies about them to have them fired, or picketing outside someone's home with signs saying they're a pedophile or criminal. I used to think they were just a bunch of whacky sci-fi nerds, now I know they're evil.

Now I'm even more spooked.

someone ought to burn down all their "churches"

a good old fashioned pogrom.

Would it be possible if we could blackmail trick the Klu Klux Klan into believing the Scientologists are really Jewish people in disguise into burning their churches? It might just might get them to do the work. Shame you have to brainwash and trick the fucked up to demolish the other fucked ups. That or, it would be incredibly ironic and fucked up if they oppose the Scientology too.

This sad sad world...

[bychance]

this is probably how most religions started thousands of years ago. killing people who talked bad about it, collecting peoples possessions until the masses started "believing." the fact that it's happening in front of our eyes now is probably what scares us about it.

SCIENTOLOGY IS NOT A RELIGION.

Please, thats insulting. Yes, churches like the Catholic Church became corrupt, but its origin/true intentions have been defamed by zealot extremists. Same thing with Islam; now everyone associates Muslim people with terrorism, as if its synonymous.

[DontMindMe]

I'm scared shitless of the CO$. I had shivers reading this article. I'm keeping my trap shut for once. Somebody hold me.

Booga booga.

[cheray]

When they think their strength and power is going to be weakened, thats when an animal will strike. Well not an animal, but you know who I mean. But if they are so great and good and know just what to do when they see a car accident, why do they want to kill people? Nothing makes one bit of sense to me.

[A*O]

But the scary thing is, it's true. They might be reading this. Google Keith Henson - he's the guy who made a joke in response to someone else's joke about a Tom Cruise Missile, and the last few years he's either been in prison or on the run because of it.

They almost certainly are. Time was when we'd start threads dissing Co$ (like shooting fish in a barrel) and a couple of GR members would chip in with all kinds of lame defences. I called one of them out asking "Are you a member of Co$?" to which there was a deafening silence. Of course they are watching this site - BOO! Cults absolutely hate it when people work out what they are up to, ie, screwing money out of vulnerable people and congenital morons like Cruise and Travolta.

DO NOT be intimidated or paranoid. That's what they want. Get angry and cry bullshit loud and clear.

[moomies]

Yea I remember there was one that admitted to having gone to a Scientology high school. I'm sure there are other Scientology posters/lurkers on here...


I just want to say this though, I don't want people to fear (I know we all have a good reason to!) cuz I think the cult preys on that. So don't give them that power.

It may not be the same thing but their use of intimidation and violence (murders) are becoming very close to terrorism IMO.

Definition of Terrorism

Webster's University Dictionary

Systematic use of violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve an end.

The Oxford English Dictionary

(a) Policy intended to strike with terror those against whom it is adopted; (b) the employment of methods of intimidation; (c) the fact of terrorizing or condition of being terrorized.

Webster's New International Dictionary

(a) Act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; specify: the system of the Reign of Terror. (b) A mode of governing, or of opposing government, by intimidation. (c) Any policy of intimidation.

The American Heritage Dictionary

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Understanding Terrorism - Definition of Terrorism

[sluce]

Me too. The Baptist and Pentacostals alone in my town would mess up their playhouse. They thought they were being gracious by serving fish on Fridays during Lent to us Catholics in the local restaurants. CO$ is not a religion. I thought you have to worship a God to be a religion. In CO$, for the right price, you can become your own god. What a scary group.

You do not have to believe in God to be a church. The Scientologist met the criteria of being tax exempt based on the US IRS standards so they enjoy the exemption as do many other moronic groups. Anyone can start a group, call it a church, worship whatever they want and get tax exempt status if they meet the criteria set. I personally don't see a difference in worshipping a God, nature, an alien. My problem with them is the abuse of its own members. There are many in other churches who also are "buying" their way to heaven but their churches at least welcome them whether they give money or not.