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    Re: the Loilta complex: Brooke Shields, Jodie Foster, Mariel Hemingway, and the list goes on. I wonder if it was a response from men in the wake of women becoming more powerful in the world. They felt helpless so they turned to women with less power. Or men are just gross. Probably both.

    That pic of Tatum makes my skin crawl. Someone on this board once described how European people view actual nudity as innocent and funny, but something like a bikini on a child would be considered crossing a line and i think that's how i feel looking at that. Just being topless would have less ick factor.. It looks like she has a necktie across her chest. And the pose. And her half naked dad in tight booty shorts behind her...and knowing how fucked in the head he is...the combination of all that is gross.

    I watched a few clips from Paper Moon the other night and I loved that movie as a kid. It kinda makes me sad now.
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    Speaking as a European that frequented nudest beaches with my parents in the 1970s, these were family spaces & were "safe" and natural. People wore clothes or not (e.g socks if you'd burnt your feet, etc).
    Yes, it was natural but the above photoshoot isn't natural. It's creepy & posed. Very uncomfortable.


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    ^ Yikes at the topless prepubescent Brooke Shields, damn that would never fly nowadays without someone getting child porn charges. Yeah I know nothing else was exposed but I won't even post it here. She was really exploited.

    I remember this one of Gia Carangi, damn she was gorgeous, I think this was a Cosmo cover.

    I've seen & heard comments on a new film on Netflix that a podcast featuring ex- prosecutors were incensed about - in legal terms - regarding child pornography. They were very clear in the reasons & statutes that they deemed it broke the law. It was an interesting listen.


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    It's episode 194 if you are interested

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    Yes, Brooke Shields, Tatum and Jodie Foster all had films roles that cast them as children in adult jobs, hookers, grifters and more hookers.
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    Anyone remember this gem? Ryan actually hit on Tatum at Farrah's funeral and actually admitted to it.

    He didn't recognize her and was "trying to be funny" with a beautiful woman. Christ.

    There's some other stuff in the article but this shit-circus is at the beginning - I bolded it, just in case you don't want to read the whole thing.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ryan-...my-da_n_249668

    Vanity Fair has split September covers - Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett - and the explosive Fawcett article by Leslie Bennetts offers a remarkable, on-the-record example of the father-daughter dynamic between Farrah’s on-off lover Ryan O’Neal and his daughter Tatum (who he calls a bitch), as well as insight into his relationship with Farrah.

    O’Neal spoke to Bennetts and characterized himself as “a hopeless father.” He offered the below example from Farrah’s funeral as a reason why:

    “I had just put the casket in the hearse and I was watching it drive away when a beautiful blonde woman comes up and embraces me,” Ryan told me. “I said to her, ‘You have a drink on you? You have a car?’ She said, ‘Daddy, it’s me—Tatum!’ I was just trying to be funny with a strange Swedish woman, and it’s my daughter. It’s so sick.”
    “That’s our relationship in a nutshell,” Tatum said when I asked her about it. “You make of it what you will.” She sighed. “It had been a few years since we’d seen each other, and he was always a ladies’ man, a bon vivant.”




    Ryan also talks about the demise of his relationship with Farrah in 1998, when the pair initially split. He cites Farrah’s menopause and talks about subsequently bedding a much-younger woman.

    The whole article is not online, but the issue is on newsstands Wednesday in New York and LA, and a few more remarkable excerpts are here on Vanity Fair’s website.

    The magazine’s press release on the article is below, and he says he regrets some of his children and son Griffin says his father gave him cocaine at age 11:



    NEW YORK, N.Y.—Ryan O’Neal speaks extensively with Vanity Fair contributing editor Leslie Bennetts about his relationship with Farrah Fawcett, and his family struggles, both before and after her death, and tells Bennetts he is full of regrets, saying, “I wish I could do it over with [Fawcett]. I would have been much kinder, more understanding, more mature. I’d lose some of the savagery. I don’t know how she got cancer; maybe some of it was me. She wouldn’t even have a diet soda!”

    Bennetts reports that one of the reasons for their split, according to O’Neal, was that Fawcett “was going through some kind of change.... I didn’t have a change of life; I was always a jerk. But they’re hard work, these divas; I was sick of it, and I was unappreciated.” He says he felt that Fawcett didn’t like him very much, “so I excused myself, and I was lucky enough to meet this young girl. She was more a daughter to me than a lover, and my own daughter had flown the coop, so here was this replacement.” Despite their split, they eventually managed to come back together when O’Neal was diagnosed with chronic myelogenous leukemia in 2001 (it has since been controlled with the drug Gleevec). “I talked to her every day,” O’Neal says. “We pulled apart, but we never popped loose.”

    O’Neal tells Bennetts that six weeks before her death Fawcett asked him, “Am I going to make it?,” and he said, “Sure, baby—and if you don’t, I’ll go with you,” to which Fawcett replied, “Stop the Gleevec.” He didn’t give up his medication, Bennetts writes, but was at Fawcett’s bedside when she passed away.

    According to O’Neal, Fawcett’s apparent softness was deceptive, and she “had a stubborn streak of pride and righteousness,” he says. They would fight about “anything and everything,” and they “started fighting about [their son] Redmond by the time he was three,” he tells Bennetts.

    O’Neal calls Fawcett “provincial in many ways,” and tells Bennetts that he thinks she may have preferred “a picket-fence kind of life, cooking and doing her art,” rather than the strain of Hollywood. Aging was hard for her, he says. “In my mind, if I say, ‘You’re beautiful,’ that should be enough. But she was very high-maintenance. She took a long time getting ready to go anywhere, and that started to drive me nuts. We were late to see the president of the United States, and she was his dinner partner! So we were an hour late for Ronald Reagan.”

    Griffin O’Neal is suspicious of his father’s newfound devotion to Fawcett, telling Bennetts, “All those crocodile tears!... My dad’s only goal was to make sure he would be in the will. It was so disgustingly transparent as soon as he found out she was terminal. I consider him a vulture presiding over a carcass. Ryan thought he was going to get everything.” When asked about Griffin’s charge that Ryan was trying to get Fawcett’s money, the elder O’Neal says, “I hate him! He knows I have money. I made a tremendous amount of money on real estate, more than I deserve.”

    O’Neal is brutal on the subject of his parenting and his children, telling Bennetts, “I’m a hopeless father. I don’t know why. I don’t think I was supposed to be a father. Just look around at my work—they’re either in jail or they should be.” He doesn’t talk to any of his kids except for Redmond, whom he visits in jail. “I was in touch with them for years, and I was a mess,” he says of the others. “I’m not in touch with them now, and I’ve never been happier.” When asked if he’s sorry he had children, he nods, Bennetts reports. “A couple of them I would take back,” he says.

    O’Neal tells Bennetts that he didn’t recognize his daughter, Tatum, at Fawcett’s funeral. “I had just put the casket in the hearse and was watching it drive away,” he says, “when a beautiful blonde woman comes up and embraces me. I said to her, ‘You have a drink on you? You have a car?’ She said, ‘Daddy, it’s me—Tatum!’ I was just trying to be funny with a strange Swedish woman, and it’s my daughter. It’s so sick.”

    When Bennetts asks Tatum about the exchange, she replies, “That’s our relationship in a nutshell.... You make of it what you will.” She sighed. “It had been a few years since we’d seen each other, and he was always a ladies’ man, a bon vivant.”

    O’Neal fumes when asked about Tatum’s autobiography, saying “She wrote a book—bitch! How dare she throw our laundry in the street for money!... She didn’t call after Farrah’s show. She’ll have to explain that.”

    Tatum tells Bennetts that her father “has every right to be angry about the book; no parent wants to hear their kid saying shitty things about them... But what I wrote in the book was true. I’ve got a battle with drugs, but I’m a strong, independent person, and I fight for myself, and my father and I butt heads. When I was 16 years old, he and Farrah moved in together, and after that I saw my dad periodically, and that took a long time for me to get over. Would I do that to my kids? No, but I don’t think Farrah was responsible for that. I truly thought Farrah was inspirational and beautiful and kind. Anyway, it’s past; I’ve moved on. I’m older now, and I forgive him.”

    O’Neal claims Griffin has sold salacious information about the family to the tabloids, a charge that Griffin denies—“Absolutely not! Not one thing!,” Griffin tells Bennetts. “My father is afraid of me because I know the truth,” Griffin says. “That’s the part that absolutely scares him to death.” Griffin suggests that the family’s problems might have something to do with the fact that Ryan plied his children with drugs—“My father gave me cocaine when I was 11 and insisted I take it,” he tells Bennetts—and was prone to uncontrollable rages. “He was violent all the way through my upbringing,” says Griffin. “He was a very abusive, narcissistic psychopath. He gets so mad he can’t control anything he’s doing.”
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    Ryan and Trump should have drinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BITTER View Post
    Ryan and Trump should have drinks.
    Only if it has arsenic in it!

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    ^I never thought it possible, but there is a human more vile than Trump.
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    Yep. These two bitches had to be separated at birth somehow. They're somewhat close in age...hmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty Bike View Post
    ^I never thought it possible, but there is a human more vile than Trump.
    While they are both vile, the scale of the latter person's atrocities is like comparing Hiroshima to a firecracker. Especially where the environment is concerned.

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    Speaking as a European that frequented nudest beaches with my parents in the 1970s, these were family spaces & were "safe" and natural. People wore clothes or not (e.g socks if you'd burnt your feet, etc).
    Yes, it was natural but the above photoshoot isn't natural. It's creepy & posed. Very uncomfortable.
    Mrs Mo and I once took our daughter to a C/O beach when she was a baby (about 1 year old), but it was a one-and-done kind of thing. Going there is supposed to be a relaxing experience, and the logistics of caring for a newborn or toddler (food, extra stroller, diapers, SPF50 mini tent) basically takes that all away. As our kids have gotten older, we have noticed that they are even more conservative about things (except politics) than we are. It almost feels like we are living an episode of "Family Ties" where the parents are aging hippies, and the kids are straitlaced. We have just let them be themselves (within reason).

    With regard to the photographs - I grew up in the 70's and the attitude was very different. Brooke Shields' tagline on her Calvin Klein designer jeans ads was "nothing comes between me and my Calvin's". And obviously, she was a minor. In all honesty, I think when attitudes finally started to turn was some kind of marketing campaign (I forget by whom) had a little girl, wearing makeup and styled hair, posing with her arms crossed over her bare chest, with the tagline, "Would you believe I'm only 10?" THAT caused a VERY big outcry, and I think it turned the tide a lot. Gene Shalit also panned "Blue Lagoon" on national television as basically "child porn". People were getting sick of it.
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    ^ Don't forget Brooke Shields in Pretty Baby when she was 12. That one caused a lot of controversy too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novice View Post
    Only if it has arsenic in it!
    Yep. Doesn't show up on tox screens, does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BITTER View Post
    Yep. Doesn't show up on tox screens, does it?
    Let me know the answer to this and I'll be happy to be an accomplice.
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    TATUM O'NEAL ALLEGEDLY SUICIDALThreatened to Jump Off Balcony

    10/11/2020 12:30 AM PT

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    Tatum O'Neal was allegedly suicidal at a Los Angeles area home, so cops responded and she was placed on a psychiatric hold ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.
    We’re told police and fire responded last month to a call for a suicidal person, after Tatum allegedly threatened to jump off a balcony.
    Our sources say the 'Bad News Bears' star was transported to a local hospital once help arrived, and she was eventually placed on a psychiatric hold for further evaluation.
    It's a pretty scary situation, especially considering Tatum's well-documented struggles over the years with addiction.
    As you know ... Tatum has battled drug problems after separating from ex-husband John McEnroe way back in 1992.
    Tatum, the youngest actress to ever win an Academy Award, eventually got clean and got her life back together, but in 2008 she was arrested for allegedly trying to score drugs. Other than that, she's remained sober by all accounts.
    We reached out to Tatum's reps ... so far, no word back.


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    I hope the reunion didn't trigger this as she doesn't have to have her dad in her life. I hope she find peace and soon.

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