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    Don't know where I read it, but during the interview with the girls you could keep hear him coughing loudly in the background so they knew he was right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs P View Post
    Don't know where I read it, but during the interview with the girls you could keep hear him coughing loudly in the background so they knew he was right there.
    Yes, Gayle said that on her recap this AM. The one girl in black jacket was a straight up brat too. Can’t wait until they see the light and to read their story when they “cash in “ on R Kelly like they are claiming their parents are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mivvi21 View Post

    I also cannot believe this fool is broke after making so much money over his career. Probably spent it all on lawyers, and financing his underage harem.
    I can't help but wonder if he's busy hiding money while pleading poverty. He knows that its likely that he's not going to skate this time and that huge lawsuits are going to head his way, either in the form of damages post conviction or civil suits if he somehow manages to slip out of it.
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    I am sure he has accountants that have been paying his bills all these years, and would have paid the child support if directed to.
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    I'm going with hiding money. Knew a family friend of my father that did that. Then my father that did that. But that was 12+ years ago. May not be as easy to get away with it now?
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    R. Kelly's lawyer from his 2008 trial is dying of cancer and wants everyone to know Kelly was 'guilty as hell'



    Ed Genson — the high-profile Chicago criminal defense attorney who defended R. Kelly during his 2008 child pornography trial — told the Chicago Sun-Times that Kelly was guilty in that case, but may not be in his current one.
    "He was guilty as hell!" Genson told the paper in a story published Friday. "I don't think he's done anything inappropriate for years."
    In 2008, Kelly went on trial for 14 counts of child pornography, accused of making a video of himself having sex with his 14-year-old goddaughter. Genson led a team of four lawyers in that case.
    He took a famously aggressive approach, filing motions that delayed the trial for six years and comparing a witness to Satan. It seemed to work: the jury ultimately acquitted Kelly on all counts, concluding that while it was Kelly in the video, they couldn't verify the female in the video was underage.



    Genson told the paper he knew Kelly was attracted to young girls, but kept him from getting arrested again. One strategy, he alleged, was putting him on medication that suppressed his libido.
    "I'll tell you a secret: I had him go to a doctor to get shots, libido-killing shots," he told the Sun-Times. "That's why he didn't get arrested for anything else."
    Numerous women have accused Kelly of having sex with them while they were underage.
    Genson — who also represented former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich in his corruption trial — told the paper he meddled in other ways to keep Kelly in check. Genson said he told Kelly to change the lyrics to "Ignition," which the singer remixed into one of his biggest hits, because it was originally about the relationship between a teacher and student.
    https://www.thisisinsider.com/r-kell...-guilty-2019-3
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    is it just on tv or in the movies when they say the defense attorney can't claim that you are innocent if you've told them you're guilty?
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    Someone paid his child support fees for him and he's free again. This time the person's identity is being kept secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fgg View Post
    is it just on tv or in the movies when they say the defense attorney can't claim that you are innocent if you've told them you're guilty?
    Ethically this is probably true, but oddly enough I don’t think I’ve ever been taught this in either school or training. I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “innocent” when defending one of my clients anyway though. We usually just say “not guilty.” Plus, legal innocence actually means something in the law, it’s not a term that is thrown around or used lightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadestone View Post
    Someone paid his child support fees for him and he's free again. This time the person's identity is being kept secret.
    Funny how 'someone' can always find a substantial amount of cash when his arse is in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickiDrea View Post
    Ethically this is probably true, but oddly enough I don’t think I’ve ever been taught this in either school or training. I don’t think I’ve ever used the word “innocent” when defending one of my clients anyway though. We usually just say “not guilty.” Plus, legal innocence actually means something in the law, it’s not a term that is thrown around or used lightly.
    I've always wondered the same as fgg.

    So Nicki, if a client comes to you and says "I did it but can you get me out of this?" What do you or your colleagues say? Does it differ when it's a public defender versus a private high-dollar lawyer?
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    I do t think it would differ from a high priced attorney vs a public defender. I have to say that our pd’s where I work are excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    I've always wondered the same as fgg.

    So Nicki, if a client comes to you and says "I did it but can you get me out of this?" What do you or your colleagues say? Does it differ when it's a public defender versus a private high-dollar lawyer?
    I look at the case and I’m honest with them. If they can beat it, I’ll tell them we should fight it. If not we talk about their options. PDs if anything are more likely to want to fight if we can. We’re trial attorneys at heart and we have the time to try cases (at least at a well-funded office like mine). Private counsel would (I would hope) give them the same advice. The difference being that many private attorneys would rather not go to trial if they can avoid it. Not because of a lack of skill, but because of the time it takes away from other paying clients. That’s not something many people think about when hiring a lawyer but it is a consideration for the lawyer. It’s one of the things I never thought about but that I learned when my friends went private or when I talked to private attorneys at court.
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    Something coming up on the police scanners involving Chicago Trump Towers, suicide, and R. Kelly. I'm at work and can't link to it right now.

    ETA this is the tweet.

    Trump Tower: a call of person threatening suicide. be advised, this call involves @rkelly. #ChicagoScanner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterslide View Post
    Something coming up on the police scanners involving Chicago Trump Towers, suicide, and R. Kelly. I'm at work and can't link to it right now.
    Honestly? If he's topped himself I'm finding it hard to care, except for it will deny his victims justice.
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