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    I watched the docu-series. This creature is evil.
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    I agree. And I'm glad it's happening. Especially to this scum of the earth.

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    I think some of this has to be credited to the #metoo movement. More and more previously untouchable predators are starting to tumble after years and years of openly abusing others. The fear of fame is still there but it has been weakened with every case.
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    01/09/2019, 07:27pm
    At least 2 women contact Cook County prosecutors with new R. Kelly allegations


    Musician R. Kelly photographed at the Chicago Recording Company, Thursday, October 15, 2015. | James Foster / For Sun-Times Media" data-medium-file="https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/rkelly-10xx15009_56872087.jpg?w=450" data-large-file="https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/rkelly-10xx15009_56872087.jpg?w=1024" style="box-sizing: border-box; max-width: 100%; height: auto; display: inline-block; vertical-align: middle; width: 700.656px;">R. Kelly, at the Chicago Recording Company in October 2015. | James Foster / For Sun-Times Media

    BySam Charles
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    At least two women have contacted the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office since Wednesday afternoon to complain of alleged inappropriate conduct by R. Kelly.

    Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx made a public plea Tuesday evening for accusers to come forward so that the office could investigate. Foxx said she was “sickened” by the accounts described in the “Surviving R. Kelly” Lifetime television series, but said she has not — and cannot — open a criminal probe in the absence of cooperating witnesses.


    Kelly, who has been dogged by allegations of sexual impropriety for two decades, has not been charged with any crimes since he was acquitted of child pornography charges in 2008.


    Two women contacted the Sun-Times Wednesday and gave accounts of what they allegedly experienced at the hands of Kelly.


    Neither woman lives in Chicago, but both said they were the victims of inappropriate conduct by Kelly in the city — one in a home on the South Side in the mid-1980s and the other at the R&B singer’s warehouse/studio space in the 200 block of North Justine in 2002.


    After they described their experiences to the Sun-Times, both women said they called the phone number that Foxx publicized Tuesday evening — the direct line to the state’s attorney’s office’s Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence Division — and left messages after their calls went straight to voicemail.


    State’s attorney confirms calls


    Tandra Simonton, a spokeswoman for the state’s attorney’s office, would not say how many calls related to R. Kelly have been received since Foxx’s plea. In a statement, Simonton said, “We can confirm that the office has received calls related to this matter. We are in the process of reviewing and following up on these calls and have no additional information to provide at this time.”

    One woman, who’s originally from Georgia, said that Kelly engaged in inappropriate conduct with her at his rented warehouse/studio space in 2002. She said she ran away from home in Georgia, met Kelly in Florida and eventually came back to Chicago with him.


    Cook County court records show that an eviction order was entered against Kelly on Monday to vacate the warehouse/studio space. The building’s owners sued him him in June, alleging he owed nearly $80,000 in back rent.


    Another woman, who was born in Chicago but has since moved to Detroit, said that her incident with Kelly happened while at her grandmother’s house on the South Side in the mid-’80s.


    Neither woman had previously reported their allegations to law enforcement.


    Hours after the women contacted prosecutors, more than 30 people turned out for a demonstration across the street from Kelly’s warehouse/studio space.


    The group, largely made up of women, chanted “black girls matter” to show support for Kelly’s accusers. A volunteer activist with #MuteRKelly, a national group leading protests against the Chicago singer, described the latest accusations as “atrocities.”


    At the warehouse, a couple dozen people could be seen filing into the building. Outside, a woman stood on the sidewalk calling the protestors “liars.”


    On Tuesday, Foxx said her office has been in touch with two Chicago-area families who have lost touch with relatives — both women over 18 — who the families claim were coerced by Kelly into staying with him.


    Steve Greenberg, Kelly’s attorney, said in an emailed statement: “Mr. Kelly did not sexually abuse anybody, at anytime, not when he was in high school and not after.”


    Greenberg also has blasted Foxx’s press conference.

    Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx called on alleged victims of R. Kelly to come forward at a media conference Tuesday. | AP ; Chicago Sun-Times/Ashlee Rezin

    “I don’t think Kim Foxx should be giving any legitimacy to reality TV allegations,” he said Tuesday. “The lead prosecutor should be silent until there’s evidence . . . She essentially went up there and said, ‘We have no evidence of a crime, but if someone would like to make something up, please call us.’”

    He continued: “No one here has reported a crime. There’s no evidence of anything. You can’t disprove something that didn’t happen.”


    In 2000, the Sun-Times was the first major media outlet to report on allegations of inappropriate behavior involving Kelly and underage girls.


    Two years later, someone mailed a copy of the now-infamous sex tape to former Sun-Times reporter and music critic Jim DeRogatis. Kelly was hit with 21 counts of child pornography and was found not guilty in 2008.


    No statute of limitations


    Even decades-old allegations could be trouble for Kelly. State lawmakers in 2017 eliminated the statute of limitations for prosecutors to charge sex crimes against children, in the wake of revelations of abuse of students by former U.S. Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert that dated back to the 1970s.

    The law got rid of the 20-year window to file charges in child sex cases for all cases from 1997 forward, meaning that even illicit sexual encounters that took place months before the videotaped sex acts that led to his 2008 trial on child pornography could still be grounds for prosecution. At trial, witnesses testified that Kelly was in a sexual relationship with the then 15-year-old girl in the video as early as 1998.


    Prosecutors could bring new charges based on the evidence in that case — Kelly faced only charges related to child porn, and no counts of child sex abuse — without concern for double jeopardy issues, but prosecutors’ decision to wait more than 15 years to file them might trouble jurors, said Jeffrey Urdangen, director of Northwestern’s Bluhm Legal Clinic.


    But new charges stemming from that case are unlikely, said Richard Kling, a criminal law professor at IIT-Kent College of Law. If prosecutors were aware of crimes Kelly committed that were connected to the sex captured on the video, they would have brought those charges within a few months of his initial indictment.


    But if a number of alleged victims come forward amid the furor from the “Surviving R. Kelly” documentary series, it may also be helpful for Kelly should he face any new charges, said Chicago defense lawyer Joseph Lopez.


    “In any kind of a sex case, the big thing is always when did the victim make the outcry, and why,” Lopez said. “If you do it because of a lot of publicity from a TV series, or the prosecutors going out and soliciting for victims, that’s a lot less credible.”


    Contributing: Nader Issa


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    I really appreciated the documentary. The people who participated, including the founder of Me Too, were clear- no one cared because it was young black girls who were the victims. He would NEVER, EVER have gotten away with having sex with a 14 year old white girl and peeing in her mouth on camera. Or marrying a 15 year old celebrity. Period. I was very appreciative that they were honest about those facts.

    It’s sad that it took this long for “Me Too” to trickle down to us when the movement was literally started by black women. It got co-opted and then we were totally pushed out of the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsaywhit View Post
    But Gaga, who is so vocal about abuse victims is hypocritically silent after showering him with support in the past. I think this might end up hurting her in the Oscar race.

    did you see her tweet?


    https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1083237788663697408



    Defending her decision to sing with R Kelly....


    seems like everyone in the industry knew about R Kelly...so
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    That's a lot of talk from GaGa. Had she cut it off after the first sentence and just went directly to the last one, it would have been good.

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    I remember the time she released the song with R Kelly and I thought it was an odd considering his reputation.
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    I'll be glad to see him gone. Maybe him and Chris Brown can share a cell.
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    01/10/2019, 03:14pm
    Warehouse rented by R. Kelly illegally used as recording studio, residence: city

    By Sam Charles@samjcharles | email

    Attorneys for the city are asking a judge to grant inspectors access to the warehouse rented by R. Kelly on the Near West Side, alleging that the two-story building is not being used in compliance with its zoning designation.

    City lawyers cited Kelly’s recording studio inside, which, it is alleged, was built without a permit. Additionally, the building is also being used as a residence.


    “Upon information and belief it is being used as a residence and artist workspace — specifically as a recording studio in violation of the zoning law,” city attorneys said.


    RELATED: At least 2 women contact Cook County prosecutors with new R. Kelly allegations


    Citing the municipal code, city attorneys said the property at 219 N. Justine “is zoned as a Planned Manufacturing District,” which precludes the building from being used as a residence or artist workspace.


    The building’s owner and tenants have also failed to “arrange for inspection of the premises,” attorneys allege.


    The complaint was filed Thursday and Cook County Circuit Court Judge Patrice Ball-Reed said she would hear arguments Friday morning. It’s unclear when she will issue a ruling.


    Wednesday evening, inspectors from the city’s Department of Buildings could be seen knocking on the building’s windows and doors in an effort to get inside, but no one answered. They declined to comment to reporters.


    City attorneys are requesting Ball-Reed “authorize the Department of Buildings to conduct a full interior inspection of the property to determine its current use, compliance with the code, and ensure safety of occupants and first responders.”


    They’re also asking for an order against Kelly and the building’s owner “to correct the violations alleged in the complaint and to restrain future violations permanently.”


    Midwest Commercial Funding LLC, which owns the building, and the bank that issued the mortgage were named as defendants. Kelly is not named in the filing, though other defendants were listed as “tenants & occupants.” Kelly is the only tenant.


    Kelly’s attorney did not respond to a request for comment.


    In an emailed statement, Midwest Commercial Funding said the company is “committed to cooperating with the city and providing any and all support that it needs to resolve this matter.”


    The 8,000-square-foot building is currently listed for sale on several realty websites and, in at least one case, boasts of a “high profile tenant” and a recording studio in the building.


    Superstar being evicted


    The city’s request to inspect the building came just days after another county judge ordered Kelly be evicted from the building. Midwest Commercial Funding sued Kelly last summer, alleging he owed the company nearly $80,000 in back rent.

    Monday, the judge ruled in Midwest Commercial Funding’s favor, court records show, and awarded the company $166,981 while also issuing an “order of possession” for Midwest Commercial Funding.


    A spokeswoman for the Cook County Sheriff’s Office — the agency that handles evictions in the county — said the office had not yet received the judge’s eviction order as of Thursday afternoon and it was unclear when it would be executed.


    Wednesday evening, a group of about 30 people rallied outside the warehouse, chanting “black girls matter.” A couple dozen people could be seen filing into the building. Outside, a woman stood on the sidewalk calling the protestors “liars.”


    In 2017, Buzzfeed News reported that several sets of parents had told various police agencies that Kelly was holding their daughters against their will in what they called a “cult.”


    RELATED: A timeline of the R. Kelly child pornography case


    Tuesday, Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx made a public plea for alleged “victims” of Kelly to come forward so that her office could investigate. At least two women contacted the state’s attorney’s office Wednesday afternoon, alleging inappropriate conduct by Kelly in 2002 at the warehouse and once at a home on the South Side in the mid-1980s.


    Kelly’s attorney has denied all abuse allegations, including those made in a recent Lifetime series, “Surviving R. Kelly.” The singer was acquitted of child pornography charges in 2008.


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    I wasn't sure, at first, if I wanted to watch this because I felt like it was giving him attention. However, these women finally spoke up. I felt like watching it was allowing their voices to be heard, allowing for their stories to be told. It was a very difficult watch, but I'm glad I did. I really feel for all of the women involved, you could really see the pain in their faces.

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    Is this doco only available on Netflix?

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    It's not on Netflix, it's put out by Lifetime. I have an Android box, so I used that to watch it.
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    I had to stop watching it. :-( I don't know if it's on Lifetime OnDemand's or Xfinity's end, but the video is all jumbled, cuts away in the middle of sentences or some other interesting thing going on and keeps repeating large parts. When the 2nd episode came on, I just figured it was kind of a rehash of the episode before but it was literally the S1, Ep1 replayed under a S1, Ep2 label. I tried to just start with the third episode but the constant cutting off to promote Lifetime movies/shows in the middle of someone speaking and even more repeating of the 1st episode was enough to make me give up. So bummed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallison View Post
    It's not on Netflix, it's put out by Lifetime. I have an Android box, so I used that to watch it.
    thanks for some reason I thought it was on netflix.

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    R. Kelly's daughter speaks out on 'monster' father

    R. Kelly's estranged daughter has broken her silence about the controversy surrounding her father.

    Joann Kelly, who goes by the name Buku Abi, posted a lengthy statement on her Instagram stories Thursday which began "Buku here. I just want to say a few things..."

    "Before I start I just want it to be known that I am speaking from the heart, nothing I say or do not say is to hurt ANY party reading this or affected by this," the statement read. "To the people that feel I should be speaking up/against everything that is going on right now. I just want you all to understand that devastated is an understatement for all that I feel currently."

    R. Kelly has come under fire in the wake of the recent Lifetime docuseries "Surviving R. Kelly" which chronicles allegations of abuse, predatory behavior and pedophilia against the singer.

    Kelly has consistently denied the allegations and has never been convicted of any crime tied to them.

    Abi is one of three children born to Kelly and his ex-wife, Andrea Kelly, who also appeared in the docuseries and shared her allegations of having been abused by him.

    Abi apologized "if my silence to all that is happening comes off as careless."

    "That is my last intention," she wrote. "I pray for all the families & women who have been affected by my father's actions. Trust, I have been deeply affected by all of this."

    She said she's been struggling to process it all and find the right words to say.

    According to Abi, she has been estranged from her father for a while.

    "Anyone that knows me personally or has been following me throughout the years knows that I do not have a relationship with my father," Abi said in her statement. "Nor do I speak on him or on his behalf. I also am not fond of dealing with my personal issues or personal life through social media but, I feel things are starting to get out of hand."

    She then went on to discuss how "Reminders of how terrible my father is, and how we should be speaking up against him, rude comments about my family, fabricating me, my siblings & our mothers 'part' etc. Does not help my family (Me, my sister, my brother, and my mother) in our healing process."

    "The same monster you all confronting me about is my father," Abi wrote. "I am well aware of who and what he is. I grew up in that house."

    She ended her statement by thanking her family's supporters for helping them through what she said has been a difficult time.

    "Family, friends, followers, fans, etc... I love you guys to pieces," Abi wrote. "Your love is appreciated & always will be."

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