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Old July 25th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, when Elvis died, who was REALLY left to manage his estate? It’s not like he had a big family. Elvis had no siblings. He had no adult children. He didn’t even have a spouse. Who was going to manage the estate, his bodyguards? None of those men were equipped to handle that sort of responsibility. They’d all worked for Elvis since they were teenagers themselves (most of them). Elvis WAS their job for the majority of their lives!

When Elvis died in 1977, his father, Vernon, was already elderly and in his 70’s. Elvis’ grandmother was on her way out too. Someone had to oversee his minor daughter's inheritance. Especially after his father, Vernon, died (consequently, not even 2 yrs after Elvis’ own death). Since Lisa Marie was only 9 yrs old at the time of her father’s death, it had to fall on someone. It was only logical that her mother take over until she became of age. Any woman in her right mind would’ve done it…Me, you, anyone….especially when you’re dealing with your child’s due inheritance.

It wasn't Priscilla’s fault for stepping up to the plate when her daughter needed someone to secure her financial future. As a mother, I think Priscilla did what she had to do. I've never seen Priscilla as a gold-digger or some vulture. Priscilla was put in that situation because of Elvis’ premature death. Considering the circumstances, I think she’s done a good job. Some people may question her intentions, but I personally have never thought her intentions were based on greed. When Elvis died, Priscilla was 32 and probably knew diddly-squat about managing an estate. She learned reallly quick and I give her credit for surrounding herself with people who've advised her wisely. Elvis' estate sure hasn't gone bankrupt in the last 30 years and that's a good thing, because Elvis was sure on his way to doing that himself prior to dying.

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Old July 26th, 2008, 04:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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She lived off of his legacy. She had much to gain by opening Graceland to the public and selling the rights to his songs, etc.
Exactly, you hit the nail right on its head. Yes, she opened up
Graceland to the public, but only because she didn't have
enough income at the time to preserve and maintain it.
She had and still has no problem twisting facts and even making
up entirely new "facts" to tweak her own role in history.
It's astounding how many facts, that are totally available to
the public if they'd do their research, are now presented in a
completely different light, 99% of the time to her benefit.

When Elvis was alive, in the early years Vernon was in charge
of finances. An odd choice, since he did not have much of
an education and had - because of their extreme poverty -
once been in jail for forging a check for the laughable
amount of 8 dollars, a loan his boss had given them to
build his house (shack). Yet, he was also a tightwad, always
questioning for every purchase "do we need that?" and always
wanting to see receipts for every purchase made. Why do
you think many of Graceland's artifacts are checks and receipts?
Later, Elvis gave Joe Esposito co-responsibility for the
finances, who learned at the hands of Vernon.

But: Elvis was a man who was ruled by his heart, not his
intellect (and no, contrary to some publications, Elvis was
not some dumb hick, he pretty much educated himself by
voraciously reading books on philosophy, religion, politics
and the occult, aside from his dozens of Bibles - all books
he took with him wherever he went in a huge trunk).
When he wanted something, no matter how much Vernon
or Joe protested, he got it. And of course his giving and
sharing are legendary. The crazy thing about Elvis was,
that he could be very frugal, too. If something didn't
pull at his heartstrings, he wouldn't spend a nickle on it,
even if it was something that he'd spent fortunes on
before. With Elvis, things had to "feel" right, whether
it was recording a song, buying a farm, giving a big
gift or including somebody into his circle.

As time went on and Elvis became more clouded by
his prescription drug intake to deal with his frustrations,
both of a professional and personal nature, that's when
things started happening that before would not have.
The "colonel" upping his percentage, selling Elvis' song
catelogue and the string of sycophants around him
growing.... Vernon's deteriorating health and personal
(marital) problems forced him to relinquish what control
he had left over the finances and some of the colonel's
staff wiggled their way in.

By the mid seventies, the new people in Elvis' circle
were pretty much ruling everything. None of Elvis' staff,
well, except for Charlie Hodge, who lived in a room at
Graceland, and Joe Esposito, was 100% of the time
employed by Elvis.
They all held odd jobs when Elvis wasn't on tour.
The West cousins, for instance, had gotten their foot
into Hollywood while making movies with Elvis, and had
occasional jobs as stuntmen or bit players. Red West
also wrote several of Elvis' songs like "Separate Ways",
"If Every Day Was Like Christmas" and "Seeing is Believing".
By 1976 Red & Sonny West and newcomer Dave Hebler
announced their book "Elvis, what happened?" their
final attempt to get through to Elvis. He'd had Vernon
fire them earlier because they kept nagging him about
his drug dependency, his many doctors and all kinds
of other issues. Red & Elvis never lost touch, even
when the book was published in the summer of '77.
Elvis died weeks after its release.

At first the colonel's staff took over, Vernon being
quite ill (in 1976 it looked like he was going to die).
Elvis had altered his will in March of 1977, possibly
with the thought of him surviving Vernon and
there not being anybody around to take care of
what little was left. Since Beaulieu was the mother
of his (only official) child (he had a clause added to
his will in which he spoke of any possible other
children that may be included as heirs AFTER it
were 100% proven they were his - obviously none
passed that test ), she was the guardian of
underaged Lisa. However, in his will, Beaulieu is
NOT mentioned by name. Another interesting
thing is that his will mentions that If, for
any reason, my said father be unable to serve or to
continue to serve as Executor and/or as Trustee, or
if he be deceased and shall not have appointed a
successor Executor or Trustee, by virtue of his last
will and testament as stated -above, then I appoint
National Bank of Commerce, Memphis, Tennessee,
or its successor or the institution with which it may
merge, as successor Executor and/or as successor
Trustee of all trusts required to be established hereunder
.
His father, however, as the appointed executor was
entitled by his last will and testament, duly probated,
to appoint a successor Executor of my estate, as well
as a successor Trustee or successor Trustees of all the
trusts to be created under my last will and testament
.
Knowing that Vernon was seriously ill for the last few
years of his life (in and out of hospital, home nursed)
it's interesting how quickly he changed his will to include
Beaulieu as the executor of Elvis' estate, while Elvis had
not included her at all in his will.

Vernon died in June of 1979 at the age of 63.
He'd had plenty of time to arrange things, so he
had named Beaulieu guardian of the estate for
Lisa, who was the only heir left, after he'd pass.

Grandma Minnie Mae "Dodger" Presley, Vernon's
mom, died in 1980, one month short of her 90th
birthday. She'd survived everybody in the family:
Jesse Garon (Elvis' twin), Gladys (E's mom),
Jesse (her husband), Elvis (her grandson) and
Vernon (her son).
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Old July 27th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Whaaat? That's crazy!!!!

Sidenote: I watched a documentary some time ago where a good friend of Elvis said he was so afriad and weirded out by $cienos. That they were always trying to get him to join and he said he would basically rather be dead than join their cult.
Crazy since Priscilla and her daughter joined them.

I still can't get over the sex thing!
No, I remember back in the 70's and this is not the first time I've heard the story. Pris did not have a lot of nice things to say. This guy was the fantasy of millions of women and she blew the lid off that fantasy.

But I agree that she appears to be a smart business women which is probably why Elvis mader her the executor of his estate.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 03:25 AM   #34 (permalink)
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No, I remember back in the 70's and this is not the first time I've heard the story. Pris did not have a lot of nice things to say. This guy was the fantasy of millions of women and she blew the lid off that fantasy.

But I agree that she appears to be a smart business women which is probably why Elvis mader her the executor of his estate.
Read my post above yours: he didn't even mention her in his will.
Vernon put her in HIS will.....
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Old July 28th, 2008, 10:59 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Oh, Elvis wasn't sex-less. He got it on with plenty of women. But he regarded Priscilla as "virginal" then the "mother of his child," and couldn't corrupt her or some dumb shit like that.
Yeah something like that, lol. I read Priscilla's book Elvis and Me, it was a nice read. It's pretty sweet to me.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #36 (permalink)
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omg how dumb, its public knowledge she has a boy
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Old July 28th, 2008, 01:07 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'd say her clinging to the Presley name was for her, not her kid. Sure as hell didn't seem to bother her that her second child never had the same name as her, did it?
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I've seen him before in pictures from event with his mom and sister... he was a baby when Lisa Marie got all psycho and then "found" Scientology.

I remember they ran a story about his "drug den" not too long ago...


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Priscilla Presley's 21 year old son Navarone left the family fortune behind to become a hippie and a pot dealer! Navarone Garibaldi is Lisa Marie's half brother and he wants nothing to do with the Presley dynasty - or maybe he's just escaping Scientology. An acquaintance of Navarone's told The Enquirer that he lives in a run down, dirty rental house in central California where he grows marijuana under lights in the basement. Dreadlocked Nav has marijuana stashed all over the house and when he's not smoking that, he's smoking heroin, according to the source. "He owes money to some bad people and sleeps with a gun by his side." We bet Priscilla already has a Scientology intervention in the works.
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If my mom, looked like that, I'd have to get high before I could look directly at her too.
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It was ditched by her request and legal.
She didn't want to be associated with the name anymore, be known
and recognized as herself, to "free herself" and be an individual,
appreciated for her own talents. The interviews she gave in print and
other media after the divorce were not as nice about Elvis as they
later became, after his passing.
At that time she wanted to go into fashion design and opened up a
boutique with a friend callled Biss & Beau (of Beaulieu). That didn't
pan out, and because Lisa was underage and Vernon in bad health
(everybody expected him to go before Elvis since he'd been suffering
from congestive heart failure for years), Ms. Beaulieu was named
executor of Elvis' will and as legal guardian for Lisa she took care
of the inheritance (not much, just 5 million). Lisa, not being the
sharpest crayon in the box, did not take over the finances at 25, as
was originally planned, but waited until she was 30, no doubt adviced
by her clever mom. That's one talent Pris has, much like Madonna:
very good at business matters. Vernon had died in 1979, and as
lousy a person as Col. Parker was, he was right when he predicted
that the real milking of Elvis was about to begin, as soon as Pris
and EPE won the court case against him, before opening up
Graceland to the public. Beaulieu never wanted to marry another
man after Elvis, because then HER name would change, too.
She's been selling herself off as Elvis' widow for decades now,
instead of the ex that she was. She met Elvis in 1960, two months
before he was shipped back to the US. Started a hungerstrike to
force her parents to let her stay at Graceland for Christmas. Moved
in with Vernon and Dee at the age of almost 17, but soon after
moved into Graceland. In years she may have spent 10 years
at Graceland, but Elvis was gone more than half of those years,
either filming in California or on tour around the US. Pris and the
other wives were only there for the occasional opening nights,
usually only in Vegas. They both had affairs throughout their
marriage. With Elvis on the road, she had liasons with her dance
instructor and her karate instructor, first back at Graceland
and later she moved to California - after Elvis had stopped
making movies. They were essentially separated since early
1972.
She's pretty much been reconstructing the myth of Elvis and
rewriting events, some of which she wasn't even present at,
for decades now. "Keep the legacy alive", my ass.
That would be incorrect. His father was the executor of his Will. Elvis left 3 heirs: his mother, his father and his daughter. Vernon however had 3 Co-executor's to his will, with Priscilla being one. (him. They were: the National Bank of Commerce in Memphis, which was the bank Elvis and Vernon had done business with; Joseph Hanks, who had been Elvis and Vernon's accountant for a number of years; and Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, who had divorced Elvis in 1973, but had continued a close friendship with him and was Lisa's legal guardian.)
Here's Elvis' will, just to show you:
Last Will and Testament of Elvis A. Presley
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That would be incorrect. His father was the executor of his Will. Elvis left 3 heirs: his mother, his father and his daughter. Vernon however had 3 Co-executor's to his will, with Priscilla being one. (him. They were: the National Bank of Commerce in Memphis, which was the bank Elvis and Vernon had done business with; Joseph Hanks, who had been Elvis and Vernon's accountant for a number of years; and Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, who had divorced Elvis in 1973, but had continued a close friendship with him and was Lisa's legal guardian.)
Here's Elvis' will, just to show you:
Last Will and Testament of Elvis A. Presley
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Exactly, you hit the nail right on its head. Yes, she opened up
Graceland to the public, but only because she didn't have
enough income at the time to preserve and maintain it.
She had and still has no problem twisting facts and even making
up entirely new "facts" to tweak her own role in history.
It's astounding how many facts, that are totally available to
the public if they'd do their research, are now presented in a
completely different light, 99% of the time to her benefit.

When Elvis was alive, in the early years Vernon was in charge
of finances. An odd choice, since he did not have much of
an education and had - because of their extreme poverty -
once been in jail for forging a check for the laughable
amount of 8 dollars, a loan his boss had given them to
build his house (shack). Yet, he was also a tightwad, always
questioning for every purchase "do we need that?" and always
wanting to see receipts for every purchase made. Why do
you think many of Graceland's artifacts are checks and receipts?
Later, Elvis gave Joe Esposito co-responsibility for the
finances, who learned at the hands of Vernon.

But: Elvis was a man who was ruled by his heart, not his
intellect (and no, contrary to some publications, Elvis was
not some dumb hick, he pretty much educated himself by
voraciously reading books on philosophy, religion, politics
and the occult, aside from his dozens of Bibles - all books
he took with him wherever he went in a huge trunk).
When he wanted something, no matter how much Vernon
or Joe protested, he got it. And of course his giving and
sharing are legendary. The crazy thing about Elvis was,
that he could be very frugal, too. If something didn't
pull at his heartstrings, he wouldn't spend a nickle on it,
even if it was something that he'd spent fortunes on
before. With Elvis, things had to "feel" right, whether
it was recording a song, buying a farm, giving a big
gift or including somebody into his circle.

As time went on and Elvis became more clouded by
his prescription drug intake to deal with his frustrations,
both of a professional and personal nature, that's when
things started happening that before would not have.
The "colonel" upping his percentage, selling Elvis' song
catelogue and the string of sycophants around him
growing.... Vernon's deteriorating health and personal
(marital) problems forced him to relinquish what control
he had left over the finances and some of the colonel's
staff wiggled their way in.

By the mid seventies, the new people in Elvis' circle
were pretty much ruling everything. None of Elvis' staff,
well, except for Charlie Hodge, who lived in a room at
Graceland, and Joe Esposito, was 100% of the time
employed by Elvis.
They all held odd jobs when Elvis wasn't on tour.
The West cousins, for instance, had gotten their foot
into Hollywood while making movies with Elvis, and had
occasional jobs as stuntmen or bit players. Red West
also wrote several of Elvis' songs like "Separate Ways",
"If Every Day Was Like Christmas" and "Seeing is Believing".
By 1976 Red & Sonny West and newcomer Dave Hebler
announced their book "Elvis, what happened?" their
final attempt to get through to Elvis. He'd had Vernon
fire them earlier because they kept nagging him about
his drug dependency, his many doctors and all kinds
of other issues. Red & Elvis never lost touch, even
when the book was published in the summer of '77.
Elvis died weeks after its release.

At first the colonel's staff took over, Vernon being
quite ill (in 1976 it looked like he was going to die).
Elvis had altered his will in March of 1977, possibly
with the thought of him surviving Vernon and
there not being anybody around to take care of
what little was left. Since Beaulieu was the mother
of his (only official) child (he had a clause added to
his will in which he spoke of any possible other
children that may be included as heirs AFTER it
were 100% proven they were his - obviously none
passed that test ), she was the guardian of
underaged Lisa. However, in his will, Beaulieu is
NOT mentioned by name.
Another interesting
thing is that his will mentions that If, for
any reason, my said father be unable to serve or to
continue to serve as Executor and/or as Trustee, or
if he be deceased and shall not have appointed a
successor Executor or Trustee, by virtue of his last
will and testament as stated -above, then I appoint
National Bank of Commerce, Memphis, Tennessee,
or its successor or the institution with which it may
merge, as successor Executor and/or as successor
Trustee of all trusts required to be established hereunder

.
His father, however, as the appointed executor was
entitled by his last will and testament, duly probated,
to appoint a successor Executor of my estate, as well
as a successor Trustee or successor Trustees of all the
trusts to be created under my last will and testament
.
Knowing that Vernon was seriously ill for the last few
years of his life (in and out of hospital, home nursed)
it's interesting how quickly he changed his will to include
Beaulieu as the executor of Elvis' estate, while Elvis had
not included her at all in his will.

Vernon died in June of 1979 at the age of 63.
He'd had plenty of time to arrange things, so he
had named Beaulieu guardian of the estate for
Lisa, who was the only heir left, after he'd pass.


Grandma Minnie Mae "Dodger" Presley, Vernon's
mom, died in 1980, one month short of her 90th
birthday. She'd survived everybody in the family:
Jesse Garon (Elvis' twin), Gladys (E's mom),
Jesse (her husband), Elvis (her grandson) and
Vernon (her son).
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Read my post above yours: he didn't even mention her in his will.
Vernon put her in HIS will..
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her son sounds cool!
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Read my post above yours: he didn't even mention her in his will.
Vernon put her in HIS will.....
Sorry missed that. He was smart - probably didn't want his fortune going to the Scientologists. And agree that Pris has been milking her affiliation with the name for some time.

Also Pris was not the only one to diss on Elvis. Girlfriend Linda did also as well as another girlfriend, who's name I can't rememember. This was way back in the 70's. Could possibly be all made up just for attention and money. Personally I always thought he had major psychological problems. This (what I call) obsessive closeness to his mother, and a Madonna/Whore view of women which would explain why he lost interest in Pris once she was a mother.

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The way the media tries to paint Elvis makes me laugh. The guy was not puritanical or fixated on his mother. It's just part of the myth. It looks good on paper.

Elvis was VERY sexual. The guy was obviously banging women left and right even after he moved Priscilla into his home. She lived there 7 yrs before he married her. I'm sure the 'punani' got old after a while at home, that's why he continued his flings on the road. To top it off, his drug use escalated to the point where he was majorly messed up, going in an out of hospitals to basically detox. The man had problems. The last thing on his mind, was probably pleasing his much younger, very naive and very intimidated wife. Come on, how many downers and pills can you take before you're unable to get it up? I don't think Elvis had an aversion to Priscilla and wouldn't have sex with her as often as she wanted because he didn't like her. Elvis was on drugs and like a lot of cheating men, he was getting it elsewhere.

Elvis lived the way he wanted. He lived life on his terms. I think he lived life fast...drugs, women, money...in the end he burned and crashed. I don't blame the women in his life for moving on.
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No one is saying Elvis wasn't sexual. Everyone knows he slept around.

It was Priscilla herself who said that Elvis wanted her to be a virgin when they got married, and it was Priscilla who said that after she had Lisa Marie he completely lost interest in her. That came from her, not the media.
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