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Old July 25th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I never knew any of this.
Why was he so sex-less? Why no sex drive? Drugs?
Oh, he was having sex alright-- just not with 'Cilla. He wanted her to remain a virgin until they married. Then once she became a mother, he could no longer view her in a sexual way.

As Trixiebelle said, mommy issues.


Priscilla said she only gained like 9 lbs. during her pregnancy, sometimes only having an apple or 2 a day. She was trying to look 'normal' for as long as possible, since the whole motherhood thing was such a turn-off for Elvis.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Priscilla met Elvis when she was 14 yrs old. She'd known Elvis and lived with him since she was a child of 16. IMO, she deserves the name. Elvis married her 7 yrs after he moved Priscilla into Graceland. Therefore, she had been in the Presley home and in his family since 1960 when Elvis brought her to Memphis. Priscilla was the only woman he ever married. She was the only woman who bore his child. They divorced in 1973, but she didn't meet Marco Garibaldi until 1986. Prior to that, Lisa Marie had been her only child. In fact, Lisa was 18 yrs old when Priscilla's son, Navorone was born. So, Priscilla waited a long time to have another child. I don't think there was anything wrong with her having another child, or moving on with her life....especially since she'd been divorced for over 10 yrs and her ex-husband (Elvis) had been dead for some time. She never did remarry--I don't know why she was 'obligated' to change her last name.

In regards to Priscilla keeping Elvis' last name, I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with a woman choosing to keep her married name. Especially if the woman wants to keep the same last name as her only child (which Lisa Marie was her only child for years).

IMO Priscilla gave more to the Presley legacy than took from it. Elvis chose her since she was a child. She didn't choose him. She lived with him. Put up with him. She took the good and the bad for years. She earned the name. I don't have anything against her.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't understand the deal with the name. She "forfeited" it? Meaning it was in the divorce agreement that she couldn't use the last name Presley anymore?
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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In regards to Priscilla keeping Elvis' last name, I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with a woman choosing to keep her married name. Especially if the woman wants to keep the same last name as her only child (which Lisa Marie was her only child for years).
Exactly. I kept my married name after the divorce so my children and I would continue to have the same last name. Has nothing to do with the daddy.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I don't understand the deal with the name. She "forfeited" it? Meaning it was in the divorce agreement that she couldn't use the last name Presley anymore?
It was ditched by her request and legal.
She didn't want to be associated with the name anymore, be known
and recognized as herself, to "free herself" and be an individual,
appreciated for her own talents. The interviews she gave in print and
other media after the divorce were not as nice about Elvis as they
later became, after his passing.
At that time she wanted to go into fashion design and opened up a
boutique with a friend callled Biss & Beau (of Beaulieu). That didn't
pan out, and because Lisa was underage and Vernon in bad health
(everybody expected him to go before Elvis since he'd been suffering
from congestive heart failure for years), Ms. Beaulieu was named
executor of Elvis' will and as legal guardian for Lisa she took care
of the inheritance (not much, just 5 million). Lisa, not being the
sharpest crayon in the box, did not take over the finances at 25, as
was originally planned, but waited until she was 30, no doubt adviced
by her clever mom. That's one talent Pris has, much like Madonna:
very good at business matters. Vernon had died in 1979, and as
lousy a person as Col. Parker was, he was right when he predicted
that the real milking of Elvis was about to begin, as soon as Pris
and EPE won the court case against him, before opening up
Graceland to the public. Beaulieu never wanted to marry another
man after Elvis, because then HER name would change, too.
She's been selling herself off as Elvis' widow for decades now,
instead of the ex that she was. She met Elvis in 1960, two months
before he was shipped back to the US. Started a hungerstrike to
force her parents to let her stay at Graceland for Christmas. Moved
in with Vernon and Dee at the age of almost 17, but soon after
moved into Graceland. In years she may have spent 10 years
at Graceland, but Elvis was gone more than half of those years,
either filming in California or on tour around the US. Pris and the
other wives were only there for the occasional opening nights,
usually only in Vegas. They both had affairs throughout their
marriage. With Elvis on the road, she had liasons with her dance
instructor and her karate instructor, first back at Graceland
and later she moved to California - after Elvis had stopped
making movies. They were essentially separated since early
1972.
She's pretty much been reconstructing the myth of Elvis and
rewriting events, some of which she wasn't even present at,
for decades now. "Keep the legacy alive", my ass.
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Old July 25th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^^ Right.

Oh, he was having sex alright-- just not with 'Cilla. He wanted her to remain a virgin until they married. Then once she became a mother, he could no longer view her in a sexual way.

As Trixiebelle said, mommy issues.


Priscilla said she only gained like 9 lbs. during her pregnancy, sometimes only having an apple or 2 a day. She was trying to look 'normal' for as long as possible, since the whole motherhood thing was such a turn-off for Elvis.
Whaaat? That's crazy!!!!

Sidenote: I watched a documentary some time ago where a good friend of Elvis said he was so afriad and weirded out by $cienos. That they were always trying to get him to join and he said he would basically rather be dead than join their cult.
Crazy since Priscilla and her daughter joined them.

I still can't get over the sex thing!
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Whaaat? That's crazy!!!!

Sidenote: I watched a documentary some time ago where a good friend of Elvis said he was so afriad and weirded out by $cienos. That they were always trying to get him to join and he said he would basically rather be dead than join their cult.Crazy since Priscilla and her daughter joined them.

I still can't get over the sex thing!
True dat. Elvis was not the sanest person in the world, but
he always said that Scientology was only interested in him
for his money (they approached him several times, he
always politely sent them away. Little did they know how
small his fortune was).
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It was ditched by her request and legal.
She didn't want to be associated with the name anymore, be known
and recognized as herself, to "free herself" and be an individual,
appreciated for her own talents. The interviews she gave in print and
other media after the divorce were not as nice about Elvis as they
later became, after his passing.
At that time she wanted to go into fashion design and opened up a
boutique with a friend callled Biss & Beau (of Beaulieu). That didn't
pan out, and because Lisa was underage and Vernon in bad health
(everybody expected him to go before Elvis since he'd been suffering
from congestive heart failure for years), Ms. Beaulieu was named
executor of Elvis' will and as legal guardian for Lisa she took care
of the inheritance (not much, just 5 million). Lisa, not being the
sharpest crayon in the box, did not take over the finances at 25, as
was originally planned, but waited until she was 30, no doubt adviced
by her clever mom. That's one talent Pris has, much like Madonna:
very good at business matters. Vernon had died in 1979, and as
lousy a person as Col. Parker was, he was right when he predicted
that the real milking of Elvis was about to begin, as soon as Pris
and EPE won the court case against him, before opening up
Graceland to the public. Beaulieu never wanted to marry another
man after Elvis, because then HER name would change, too.
She's been selling herself off as Elvis' widow for decades now,
instead of the ex that she was. She met Elvis in 1960, two months
before he was shipped back to the US. Started a hungerstrike to
force her parents to let her stay at Graceland for Christmas. Moved
in with Vernon and Dee at the age of almost 17, but soon after
moved into Graceland. In years she may have spent 10 years
at Graceland, but Elvis was gone more than half of those years,
either filming in California or on tour around the US. Pris and the
other wives were only there for the occasional opening nights,
usually only in Vegas. They both had affairs throughout their
marriage. With Elvis on the road, she had liasons with her dance
instructor and her karate instructor, first back at Graceland
and later she moved to California - after Elvis had stopped
making movies. They were essentially separated since early
1972.
She's pretty much been reconstructing the myth of Elvis and
rewriting events, some of which she wasn't even present at,
for decades now. "Keep the legacy alive", my ass.
Interesting, thanks. I didn't realize Presley wasn't even her legal name anymore. I guess at some point she recognized the value of it though.

I've never really looked at her as Elvis's widow--she's still his ex-wife whether he's alive or dead. But the way I understood it, without her business decisions, there wouldn't have been much of an estate left to Lisa Marie. So in that regard, I give her credit for looking out for her daughter's interests.

But, feel free to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
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Interesting, thanks. I didn't realize Presley wasn't even her legal name anymore. I guess at some point she recognized the value of it though.

I've never really looked at her as Elvis's widow--she's still his ex-wife whether he's alive or dead. But the way I understood it, without her business decisions, there wouldn't have been much of an estate left to Lisa Marie. So in that regard, I give her credit for looking out for her daughter's interests.

But, feel free to correct me if my assumptions are wrong.
You're welcome. Too many halftruths and crap being published
everywhere for years as well as fairyland myths.
Priscilla is an excellent business woman and a tremendously
gifted actress. Believe me, she is Oscar material.
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I've never heard Priscilla refer to herself as Elvis' widow. The press may write that, but I've never heard Priscilla call herself that.

Now, as a woman myself, I can't even imagine how (or what) Priscilla must've felt being married to Elvis Presley. The man was in his prime during the time they were together...he was hot...he was beautiful...he was mega-famous...he was super-rich. The odds were totally against her. He was never going to be totally hers and he was never going to be faithful. The man had way too much temptation and for that time period, it was pretty acceptable for men to stray. She was a little girl of 14 yrs old and he was a superstar when they met. He was the biggest star at his time...and Priscilla was with him for 13 or so years before she finally got the balls to leave him---and I imagine it must've been hard, because she obviously loved him.

Elvis was a product of his environment. She was a product of hers. Even though they didn't last, I give Priscilla credit for making his legacy even bigger now, 30 yrs after his death. Not too many ex-wives do that for their ex-husbands.

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This week's National Enquirer has a 3 page article on him showing all his drug parphenalia. He has quite a nice crop of ganja growing in his house (they have pictures) and article claims he is a heavy heroine user.

Another messed-up celebrity kid. Very sad.
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This week's National Enquirer has a 3 page article on him showing all his drug parphenalia. He has quite a nice crop of ganja growing in his house (they have pictures) and article claims he is a heavy heroine user.
^Are we talking about Elvis or Priscilla’s son? Lol

Elvis and Priscilla presumably broke up because of his lifestyle, his dependency on drugs and also his infidelity. I don’t know any woman who would tolerate that for long. The only reason she was with Marco Garibaldi for 20 some years and with Elvis 13 or 14 yrs was because Elvis (bless his heart) had some major substance abuse issues. Even after Priscilla left, every woman he was with after Priscilla said the same thing---Elvis suffered from a BIG drug problem and was in major denial about it.

Navarone’s father, Marco Garibaldi, is a man who’s now in his early 50’s. I believe he’s 10 yrs younger than Priscilla. Elvis had been dabbling in drug abuse since his mid-20’s and died at the very young age of 42. The fact that one man has lived long enough for Priscilla to be with and the other one is no longer here shouldn’t be some ‘sign’ as to how important one was over the other to her. They are two totally different men.

On top of that, it must be a lot easier to stay in a relationship with a person when the man is in his 5 senses and not involved with drugs as opposed to being with a man who is. Add to that, having the pressure of knowing that a million women would sleep with your handsome, famous, rich, movie-star, singer husband (Elvis) in a heartbeat is almost cruel. I don't blame Priscilla for leaving or doing to him what he had been doing to her for years.

I adore Elvis, think he was an amazing singer but it doesn't take a genius to see what happened to him. It's hard to be a good husband when you're a drug addict...even less so when you have fame, money and temptation added to the mix. He was a great singer, but he was weak and he never really got it together...not for Priscilla, not for his daughter, not for any woman.
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This week's National Enquirer has a 3 page article on him showing all his drug parphenalia. He has quite a nice crop of ganja growing in his house (they have pictures) and article claims he is a heavy heroine user.

Another messed-up celebrity kid. Very sad.
He is also heavily into Scientology, I wonder why he didn't ask them to help him out of drugs with their superior detox and Narconon programs?
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I give Priscilla credit for making his legacy even bigger now, 30 yrs after his death. Not too many ex-wives do that for their ex-husbands.
She lived off of his legacy. She had much to gain by opening Graceland to the public and selling the rights to his songs, etc.
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