August 28th, 2007, 11:04 AM
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Mel1973, I agree with your posts in this topic. I personally hate the idea of a suicide being blamed on someone, or because of someone. It's really unfair to the person who has to live through that blame for the rest of their lives.
Hmm.. I'm not too sure it was simply because of Kate (as the article suggests), it was probably a combination of many things and as far as I know they've been apart for a while. No doubt Kate would feel like absolute shit picking up the Sun when it claims Owen was 'driven' to (attempted) suicide by her.
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August 28th, 2007, 11:42 AM
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I'm going to go against the popular opinion and say that I do find it believable that he attempted suicide. Maybe he was high when he did it but still. How many distressed/disturbed comedians have done such things? How many have had drug problems? I don't think it's ok to "abuse" drugs personally so I'm not trying to excuse the behavior but ... I heard someone once commenting about someone who was funny - something to the effect of "I'd hate to be there when the laughter stops". Sometimes, it's too much to live up to, that image people have of you. Sometimes people do lose it...
That being said, I like the bastard and hope he lives and continues to make stupid movies!!!
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You're right. Tears of a clown...
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August 28th, 2007, 11:49 AM
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Owen seems too much of a playboy to care about any one woman.
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exactly. I don't think he would cut himself over a fling.
Blaming a suicide attempt on a broken heart will gain him more sympathy than saying he overdosed and cut himself up.
and, I'm not surprised his cuts were superficial. I still believe he overdosed...
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August 28th, 2007, 11:53 AM
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Im finding that most people in my neck of the woods are putting Owens suicide attempt down to drugs, Kate or disbelief that he would in the first place. Is it wrote that human beings are not allowed to be unhappy just because their job is to be funny, most comediens have a self destructive nature - Belushi, Pryor, Lenny Bruce, Eddie Murphy to name the first that came to mind - fear of the joke that falls flat - which could make or destroy your career could never be an easy burden if that was your livelyhood. I love sweetpeas turn of phrase simply because its a truism. I hope his issues are sorted soon and he gets back on the bike.
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August 28th, 2007, 12:18 PM
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Im finding that most people in my neck of the woods are putting Owens suicide attempt down to drugs, Kate or disbelief that he would in the first place. Is it wrote that human beings are not allowed to be unhappy just because their job is to be funny, most comediens have a self destructive nature - Belushi, Pryor, Lenny Bruce, Eddie Murphy to name the first that came to mind - fear of the joke that falls flat - which could make or destroy your career could never be an easy burden if that was your livelyhood. I love sweetpeas turn of phrase simply because its a truism. I hope his issues are sorted soon and he gets back on the bike.
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I don't think he and Kate should get back together at all...
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August 28th, 2007, 12:40 PM
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I don't think he and Kate should get back together at all... 
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I agree, Kate is much happier with Dax, he's very attentive to her, enjoys playing daddy to Ryder and is very comfortable with Chris Robinson and the rest of her family.
Owen needs to sort out his life and get on with it
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August 28th, 2007, 01:02 PM
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I don't think she had anything to do with his wanting to harm himself. I think it's all about drugs.
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August 28th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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i still think, its kate's fault.
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Uh, no. Is Kate or anyone else supposed to be held hostage in a relationship she doesn't want because her boyfriend might try to kill himself if she breaks up with him? Come on! Owen is responsible for his own feelings and issues.
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August 28th, 2007, 01:20 PM
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August 28, 2007
Police Log Confirms Owen Wilson's Suicide Attempt
Posted by ExtraTV Staff on August 28, 2007 4:31 PM
“Extra” has obtained the Calls for Service report from the Santa Monica Police Department, which lists the reason for the 911 call from Owen Wilson’s house as an “attempted suicide.”
The call was received on Sunday, August 26 at 12:08:16 p.m. The incident was “cleared” almost five hours later at 5:07:16pm.
As “Extra” reported yesterday, sources confirmed that Wilson had indeed attempted suicide. His brother Luke found him, and he was rushed to St. John’s Hospital in Santa Monica before he was taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where he is listed in “good condition.”
ExtraTV.com | Police Log Confirms Owen Wilson's Suicide Attempt
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August 28th, 2007, 01:41 PM
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I agree, Kate is much happier with Dax, he's very attentive to her, enjoys playing daddy to Ryder and is very comfortable with Chris Robinson and the rest of her family.
Owen needs to sort out his life and get on with it
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hmmm - can't believe I have to explain this. The comparison of Kate to a bike. One everyone in Hollywood's had a ride on, get it??
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August 28th, 2007, 02:35 PM
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Well...seems to me that Kate Hudson must have something to do with it. I mean, how often does Wilson pop up with an actual relationship? Usually he's just off doing his 'butterscotch stallion' thing. Remember the gossip from the Hollywood hookers? He was their favorite customer 'cause he was such an all-around nice guy, considerate lover AND a good tipper. They also said he wasn't overly endowed, so maybe Dax is bugging him on that level too.
Eh, I think lots of issues went into this attempt, including problematic drug use, but obviously Kate was something unusually special to him. He even put up with quite a lot of criticism and being called a 'homewrecker', remember? And then it didn't even work out. Maybe that's why he normally avoids serious relationships; he's too vulnerable for them. Well, he obviously has problems....
But bottom line, he seems like a good egg and I hope he gets better.
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August 28th, 2007, 03:03 PM
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Blaming a suicide attempt on a broken heart will gain him more sympathy than saying he overdosed and cut himself up.
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Yep.
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August 28th, 2007, 03:49 PM
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Poor dude
My favorite part of this article is " Wilson — famed for his misshapen nose".
All joking aside, who knows what was going on behind the scenes for him to take it to this level. Hopefully he sorts out his problems & gets the help he needs.
I also do not believe its fair to blame another for someone elses suicide/attempted suicide. Hopefullly he will take some responsibility for his own actions & learn from his mistakes. Suicide is wrong
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August 28th, 2007, 05:36 PM
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For gods sake, he could be the most miserable person in the world. Fame, money, drugs, kate hudson, or any other woman, just mightn't be enough for him.
No one really knows how anyone is really feeling.
Plus Owen is the one who blew it with Kate, so its not Kate's fault. Kate wanted to be open about their relationship as well, whereas Owen was always hiding, not wanting to hold hands, blah blah. Who cares dude, if you love the girl, who cares about the paparazzi. Theres being private, but you still have to live your life.
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August 28th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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Here is what the Entertainment Lawyer has to say about the whole situation.
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The Real Story About Kate And Owen

Last night I had a discussion with a woman who spoke to Owen several times over the past few weeks, was at his home this past week and has been in touch with Owen's brother Andrew over the past few days. This is what she had to say, almost word for word. Some of it is in the tabloids, but much of it isn't. This is a woman who has worked on several Wilson brother films and is very close to all three of them.
Owen did indeed try to commit suicide over Kate, but its not totally her fault. They WERE in love. Because of Kate's divorce, she was the one insisting that everything stay very down-low and approached the situation like "will my big strong boyfriend protect me from the gossips?", which is why he went way overboard and threatened to sue anyone that talked about their relationship breaking up her marriage to Chris Robinson. Owen was pestering Kate to marry him. She was VERY committed to Owen and their relationship, but had no intention of agreeing to marriage seeing as how she married so young and wasn't even divorced yet . This made Owen very frustrated and he acted out by leaving her every so often and messing with other girls. She eventually got tired of the yo-yoing and broke up with him for real.
Like most volatile type relationships, they were still messing around even though they never really got back together. One of those "they love each other so much they can't stay away, but neither is willing to do what it takes to make the relationship really work" type of things. So this was going on until Kate went crazy for Dax Shepard. Its killing Owen because Kate is obviously head over heels for Dax. She is even putting Dax ahead of her own son, which she wouldn't do for Owen (remember she insisted the relationship be kept quiet for her son's sake). She's even whispering to friends that Dax is "the one" and she might marry him f he asked and it got back to Owen. She stopped taking Owen's calls and no more booty calls, so Owen went into a pretty bad depression.
Contrary to popular opinion, Owen is as moody and dark as his brother Luke, he's just not dramatic with it. He just gets very quiet and withdrawn when he's low and is not an asshole about it. Also contrary to opinion, Owen is not a doper. He'll take a toke or snort a line to be sociable, but he's not a regular user and he does not offer it in his home when he has parties and stuff. So the whole drug thing isn't really true. He did take some pills and mix it with alcohol (maybe more stuff, not sure) to try to "go to sleep", which is what he told his brother Andrew. My contact says as far as she knows it was just pills, but its possible that he may have slit his wrists as well, but she doesn't believe he did.
She's going to try and find out today and let me know tonight. Owen has been drunk and hiding in his house for a week or more and his brother was there just to kinda keep an eye on him. She also said that Andrew had called several friends including her to come by to try to cheer him up or talk sense into him, which is how she knows this has been going on for at least a week, but Owen refused to see anyone, and just stayed locked up in his room.
So in summary of what I've been told, Owen went into a depression over losing Kate for real, even though its his fault as well. His suicide attempt was more of an immature "you won't come back to me so I'm going to kill myself" thing. Not that attempted suicide for that reason is not serious, but the loss of the relationship is more than half his fault and Kate probably shouldn't be totally blamed for it.
Oh yeah, as an addition. Luke really did have a thing for Kate as well, though nothing happened between him and Kate. Just some sibling rivalry BS really.
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