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    I think this article describes my thoughts on the matter perfectly.

    Dylan Farrow Is Telling the Truth as She Believes It, But Is It the Truth as It Happened?


    Chez Pazienza on February 02, 2014




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    If you haven’t read Dylan Farrow’s viscerally affecting open letter in yesterday’s New York Times, you should. As a matter of practicality it will help you to understand why Twitter has been on fire for the past 24-hours, with detractors and defenders of Woody Allen turning it into a virtual Battle of Pelennor Fields, and as a matter of conscience it’s important to know the version of events of 21 years ago as told by the woman who was once the little girl at the center of them. Dylan not only details her alleged abuse at the hands of Woody as a single act, she hints at what she believes is the pattern of inappropriate behavior that led up to it. It’s tough stuff, hard to read at times, whether you’re a fan of Woody Allen or not.

    I have a five-year-old daughter, and if anyone ever did anything to her like what Dylan Farrow alleges Woody Allen did, he’d be dead ten minutes after I found out about it. I say this because I want everyone to know that I understand what’s at stake here and by no means take this subject lightly. There’s no doubt that Dylan Farrow believes she was a victim of abuse. There’s no doubt that Dylan Farrow was the victim of abuse. The doubt lies in exactly what kind of abuse she suffered and at whose hand.

    Dylan’s story is as riveting as it is disturbing, but the fact is we’ll never know whether the events she recalls as searing memories really happened in the way she describes. This isn’t a case of “attacking the victim,” and to argue in good faith doesn’t make someone a monster or a child sex abuse apologist; it makes him or her a realist who accepts that the family politics at play in the Woody/Mia custody battle which was ripping their family apart in 1992 were so brutal and ugly that unless there’s evidence to back up that claim, every claim deserves to be questioned.

    Yes, Woody Allen began dating Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Previn, when she was approximately 19 years old and maybe you think that’s creepy. But the fact remains that it was completely legal. Contrary to popular belief among people who are sure they know everything about this case and are therefore qualified to rage about it on Twitter, Soon-Yi was not Woody’s daughter; Woody and Mia were never married nor did they even live together. What can’t be denied is that when the relationship between Woody and Soon-Yi was revealed, it detonated a nuclear bomb in the middle of Woody and Mia’s family and she was understandably furious about it. The members of that family then took sides and the battle lines have, for the most part, remained stable. There have occasionally been breaks in ranks, though, now that years have passed. Although he initially decried the relationship between Woody and Soon-Yi, Woody and Mia’s adopted son Moses Farrow, who went on to become a family therapist, now thinks that Mia brainwashed his seven-year-old sister into believing she was assaulted. And before you dismiss this possibility, you should at least be willing to read the facts of the case, the opinions of those who followed the developments in the relationship closely throughout the years, and those who’ve spent a lifetime doing experiments with memory implantation.

    Elizabeth Loftus is a psychologist and researcher at UC Irvine, and she’s spent most of her career studying the power of suggestion, even self-suggestion, on our memories and what she’s found is both fascinating and really not the least bit surprising. Basically, especially at a young age, we’re highly susceptible to suggestion and memory manipulation, particularly by people we trust and wish to please, and the kind of story Dylan Farrow is telling isn’t unusual during the total warfare of a custody battle, especially one as public as Woody and Mia’s and concerning someone as volatile and demanding as Mia Farrow and with the mercurial and neurotic reputation of Woody Allen.

    Here’s what it comes down to: There are only two people who know what really happened between Woody Allen and Dylan Farrow. The former has consistently proclaimed his innocence and tells one story; the latter continues to tell another, much more harrowing story. The facts of the case have always favored Woody, from doctors saying that Dylan was inconsistent in her detailing of what happened 21 years ago and that her story had a rehearsed feel to it, to the actual amount of time witnesses say Woody was alone with Dylan at Mia Farrow’s home in Bridgewater, Connecticut on August 4th, 1992, a date which fell right in the middle of Woody and Mia’s vicious custody battle and a place where he was surrounded by people who didn’t much like him. He passed a lie detector test. He married Soon-Yi and they’ve been together for 17 years and now have a family of their own and there have been no other accusations of any impropriety from anyone. Dylan, meanwhile, sticks by her own version of events, and they may very well be true. Or, as difficult as it may be to accept, they could also be the product of severe manipulation at a very young age. Unfortunately, we’ll never know for sure.

    So what this all means for the social media mob is simply whom you choose to believe: which side will confirm your already tightly held biases, fit your cultural ideology, potentially provide a rallying cry in a cause for which you advocate, or just help you sleep at night. Like the battle lines drawn two decades ago between Woody and Mia, the battle lines on Twitter are now drawn between those who’ve gathered behind the banner of Dylan Farrow’s column, which tells an indeed shocking personal story, or behind the banner of the Daily Beast article by Robert Weide, which lays out in detail the facts of Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi, motivations of Mia Farrow, and details of the case. It’s a case that was decided two decades ago and which was only reignited, coincidentally, by Mia and Ronan Farrow’s questionable shots across Twitter the night of the Golden Globes.

    Understand something: I don’t think there’s an ounce of subterfuge in Dylan Farrow’s decision to write the open letter she did or to make the claim she did 21 years ago. I don’t think she’s doing it to blackmail anyone or to bring fame upon herself. Other than the malice she has for Woody Allen, I don’t think there’s any malice in her words at all. I believe that Dylan believes she was sexually assaulted by her adoptive father. I also understand that there are those out there for whom this case is a cause célèbre because, indeed, there are plenty of women and kids who’ve been abused who are put in a position of no one believing them because there isn’t enough physical evidence to back up their claim. These people argue in favor of Dylan from a place of emotion and as a show of solidarity, and maybe they should. But in this particular case, there’s simply too much bad blood and destructive family politics at play and too little proof to light the torches and raise the pitchforks, demanding that Woody Allen be tried in court or, screw it, just thrown in jail 21 years after the fact.

    None of this is Dylan Farrow’s fault. I have no idea what really happened to her and neither do you. But she’s a victim and a survivor either way.

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    Barbara Walters Comes To Woody Allen’s Defense On The View



    Dylan Farrow accusing Woody Allen of abusing her when she was a little girl was brought up on The View today and you’d expect Botox-brained Jenny McCarthy or Whoopi “Rape Rape” Goldberg to fart out some stupidity wrapped in what-the-fuckness, but Barbara Walters did the honors today. Barbara Walters sat next to Stephen King in the Team Woody section of the auditorium when she defended Woody Allen by saying that she knows him well (because Barbara Walters knows every famous bitch well) and he’s a loving, caring father to his two daughters. Barbara’s defense would make complete sense if all child touching trash were openly shitty people, looked like the It clown and abused kids in front of everyone, but we all know that just because the outside says, “loving and caring father,” doesn’t mean that the inside doesn’t say, “child touching trash.” But Barbara kept rambling on and threw down for Woody:

    “I know Mia. I have a good relationship with her, but I’ve been with Woody many times with his two daughters. He’s got almost a twenty-year-old marriage. I have rarely seen a father as sensitive, and as loving and as caring as Woody is to these two girls. I don’t know about Dylan, I can only tell you about what I’ve seen now, that it’s a good marriage and that he’s a loving, caring father. I think that has to be said.


    Supposedly, she’s very angry and she’s doing it now, because he’s up for an award. The question is does your personal life interfere with the awards?”

    While wearing a Peter Pan ass wig, Sherri Shepherd threw herself into the ring and told Barbara that we always hear things like, “Oh, he was such a nice man,” and that we never really know what goes on behind closed doors. Sherri went on to say that Woody was messing with Soon-Yi when she was just 17 so he has a record of messing with youngins. Barbara couldn’t wrap those points around her head and she kept arguing with Sherri.


    I just… I just… When you’re in a race of reason with Sherri “The World Is Flat” Shepherd and she crosses the finish line while you’ve barely limped a foot away from the starting line, it’s time to get off the track. And Sherri did it while wearing a Peter Pan ass wig!
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    Dlisted | Barbara Walters Comes To Woody Allen’s Defense On The View




    This old interview with Woody was posted on another site.





    Angst-Ridden Humorist

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    Self-Described as a Neurotic Personality, Woody Allen Pokes Fun at His Paranoia in His New Comic Strip




    "I think I'm being followed. I don't know who is after me. I feel the same anxieties everywhere I go—the country, L.A., Europe. It's a general sense of suspicion, paranoia and fear."


    Woody Allen's voice breaks and then rattles nervously into a laugh. He is peering over the balcony of his penthouse apartment, 18 acrophobic floors above Fifth Avenue. Two searchlights sweep the Manhattan skyline, an exhilarating view that fills men with visions of grandeur and omnipotence. Allen merely shivers inside his denim workshirt and cinches his baggy jeans tighter around his scrawny waist. "On the surface of things," he acknowledges, "I have no reason to be this way. I was beaten up the same amount as all the other kids in my neighborhood. With me it's just a genetic dissatisfaction with everything."


    But while the other kids on his Brooklyn block schlepped into obscurity, it has been Woody Allen's singular brilliance not to purge his angst but to purvey it. Allen will surely donate his self-lacerating sense of humor to a medical school someday, but already he has given the world a sublimely ridiculous body of work: two hit shows on Broadway; three LPs of nightclub monologues; two best-selling collections of New Yorker and other satires; and, incredibly, seven money-making movies, including last year's smash Love and Death, all of which Allen wrote, directed and starred in himself.


    Now, at 40, Allen is still diversifying. This month he plays his first serious movie role in The Front, a McCarthy-era story of showbiz blacklisting which Woody made for director Martin Ritt "because it seemed like a worthwhile project." Less nobly, but more visibly, Allen's consummately klutzy life goes rotogravure next week in a syndicated comic strip titled Inside Woody Allen. Though Woody shrugs it off as "an amusing notion that's purely exploratory for me," the strip has already been bought by an unprecedented 180 newspapers.


    Allen has friends among the mighty and access to the most privileged. Last year, for example, he escorted Betty Ford to a Martha Graham dance benefit. "We're just good friends," he cracked at the time of his date with the President's wife. (Now he finds Jimmy Carter the "far superior" candidate.)


    By any measurement Woody Allen is Walter Mitty, whose fantasies have only to be named to come true. Yet Woody glumly describes himself as "a neurotic personality prone to depressions and anxieties all the time." After 20 years of Freudian psychoanalysis he has succeeded only in reducing his sessions from five to three a week. "I cannot conceive of living without it," he groans, "but it hasn't helped as much as I'd hoped. In the normal things that trouble everybody—meeting new people, crowds, shyness, human relationships—I haven't made much progress at all."


    Even if Woody's minuscule self-image is just another shtik, it's one that no one believes except possibly himself. Allen's friends are unanimously devoted to him. His acting company has worked for him so often it has become an identifiable ensemble. "The most revealing thing," says cartoonist Joe Marthen, who draws Allen's new strip, "is that Woody chooses not to wield the incredible power he has when he works with other people."


    In addition to his self-protective humor ("It keeps me from getting too emotional about things"), Allen's defenses against a threatening world include a wimpy rain hat he pulls down over his ears, a nebbish's slouch and a mournful countenance—creating in sum a Chaplinesque getup which has the inevitable effect of attracting more laughs. "It happens all the time," he says, "when I'm playing clarinet [which he does for relaxation at a Manhattan club] or even when I'm just walking down the street."


    These days Woody is editing his latest film, a yet untitled "funny and engrossing love story" (as he previews it) co-starring his former lover Diane Keaton and, among others, Paul Simon. "I'll see the film first," he explains, "and then pick a title." That may be the only time Woody sees it, since he never watches his movies after editing. "It would only depress me. I'd say, 'Ohhh, I've screwed up a brilliantly funny concept.' I'd just want to die."


    Success, of course, just increases the burdens of Allen's gelt-ridden existence. So while he inhabits an understatedly elegant apartment, decorated with Oriental rugs, Picasso prints and leather-bound books, Woody himself is a study in genteel shabbiness. He is (as only the rich can be) blissfully ignorant of finances, claiming "I haven't cashed a check or been inside a bank in 10 years." Instead he's attended by an accountant and a live-in cook, as well as patient friends who keep him in pocket change.


    Allen rises at 6 a.m. these days and whirs maniacally into a schedule that includes, in addition to moviemaking, two hours of daily clarinet practice, tennis twice a week and buying sprees at book and record shops (to hunt down albums by jazz favorites like King Oliver and Jelly Roll Morton). He neither smokes nor drinks nor drives (relying on a limousine) and is turned off by drugs.


    Predictably, Woody's frenetic routine has burned all but 120 pounds off his emaciated, 5'6" frame, despite a diet that would throw a sumo wrestler into insulin shock. "I have jelly for breakfast, chocolate bars and cakes with lunch and tons of pie for dinner," he boasts. "I never gain weight. My skin doesn't break out either."


    Notwithstanding the remembered agonies of adolescence, Woody is still friends with his parents, a retired jewelry engraver and a bookkeeper, who raised him as Allen Stewart Konigsberg in Brooklyn's Flatbush district. The real question, of course, is how can Mr. and Mrs. Konigsberg forgive their son for one-liners like these: "I was breast-fed on falsies...When I was kidnapped my parents snapped into action; they rented out my room...They believed equally in God and carpeting...This gold watch was sold to me by my grandfather on his deathbed." It is, according to Woody, "just funnier to lean on the dismal side of growing up."


    Even as a student "in a school for emotionally disturbed teachers," Woody began mailing in gags to Walter Winchell for a couple of bucks a week. Eventually he made the credits as a $1,700-a-week TV writer for Sid Caesar, Garry Moore and Jack Paar. His movie career began in 1965 when he wrote and co-starred with Peter Sellers in What's New, Pussycat? Along the way Allen's first marriage to a student named Harlene Rosen (she was 17, he was 19) cracked up. Harlene later sued Woody when his nightclub act included such first-wife zingers as "The Museum of Natural History took her shoe and, based on the measurement, they reconstructed a dinosaur."


    Postmarital relations are better between Woody and Louise (Mary Hartman) Lasser, who were divorced in 1969 after 11 years together. They are regularly in touch by phone, and Woody praises Louise as "a formidable girl, witty and intelligent, who I knew would make it, even then." Likewise he and Diane Keaton still work well after their 1972 decision that "it wasn't the greatest idea to live together any more."


    Woody will admit now only to "dating around" and living with girls for stretches ranging from "two days to two weeks—if you call that living together." Could he possibly have mellowed from the days when his movies rated horniness as a human malaise second only to bubonic plague? "I try to have sex only with women I like a lot," Woody explains solemnly. "Otherwise I find it fairly mechanical." (He has little interest in family life: "It's no accomplishment to have or raise kids. Any fool can do it.")


    He goes on: "I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with 15 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him." Allen pauses. "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone," he ventures helplessly. "I admit to it all."

    http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20066950,00.html


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    Sherri was repeating lies..
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    I'm casting my vote for Dylan.

    In the first place, if there's a presumption of innocence for Woody then Dylan should get one too.

    Secondly, it's not like Woody Allen has a history of upstanding and honest behaviour in this area. He didn't go to Mia and say, 'Mia dear, I think our decade long relationship has been swell, but now is a good time to end it..' and then wait a month or two before approaching Soon-Yi in a cafe and say 'hi, can I buy you a cup of coffee so we can have a nice chat?' No, instead of being above board about it, he went decidedly low-board.

    This is a man who said about Soon-Yi, "the heart wants what it wants". So if the heart wants the young, adopted daughter of the woman he's been in a relationship with for years, it's not really that much of a leap for him to want the even younger, adopted daughter of the woman he's been in a relationship for years.

    Not if the 'heart wants what it wants'.

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    ^^^^
    so fucking a 20 year-old is some kind of gateway to fucking a 7 year-old? my god you're stupid.
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    That disturbs me, along with Mia's cutting her off as well. You believe this man is a predator, who victimized two of your children (one in previns case) and instead of having sympathy for soon yi you disown her?


    I found my copy of Mia's book, What Falls Away, to refresh myself on the details. According to her book, when Mia discovered the photos of Soon-Yi in Woody's apartment she confronted Soon-Yi, who was home for the weekend, and assaulted her. From page 259: "I pounced on her. I hit her on the side of the face and shoulders. I went into the kitchen, crying. I heard Soon-Yi sobbing...She was my child but I could not help her. I could scarcely look at her. We had become something else to each other. In anger she threatened to kill herself. In anger I told her I hated her. It was a relief from she went back to college."

    Soon-Yi left after the assault and she and Mia never saw each other again. (Soon-Yi later claimed in an interview it was a pattern of abuse but Mia said it was a one time thing.)

    Mia said she discovered the photos on January 13, 1992 and it was that day she vowed to never let Woody alone with any of her kids. I misremembered that it was related to Dylan's alleged abuse but in her memoir it's because of the Soon-Yi pictures. Mia continued to date Woody after that. She writes that he her took her out for her birthday a month later, on February 13, 1993: "For my birthday Woody gave me three lovely leather-bound volumes of Emily Dickinson's poems, and he took me to dinner at Rao's."

    She writes that she told the older kids who knew about the situation with Soon-Yi not to tell anybody, although she reprints in her book a letter she let Moses send to Woody about how he wasn't his father anymore. Mia also says she explained to Dylan, then six, that Daddy couldn't come around anymore and Soon-Yi had left because "Daddy became sort of like a boyfriend to Soon-Yi." She doesn't mention if she told any of the other younger kids.

    Mia said she and Soon-Yi had no contact anymore after that, aside from one aborted phone call, which Mia wrote was fine by her. One day in May 1992 Mia had the older siblings all call Soon-Yi on the phone and to tell her one by one to tell her that while they were disgusted with her they still missed her, and if she apologized and admitted she'd made a terrible mistake she could come back. That was the last contact Soon-Yi had with the family.

    Woody and Mia were due to sign their financial and custody agreement on August 6, 1992 and Mia was still letting Woody come and stay at her country home to visit the kids and kinda, sorta continued to date him. On August 4, Mia, Woody and some other people had gone out to dinner to discuss Manhattan Murder Mystery, the new movie Woody and Mia were planning on filming. They came back to the country house and Woody was reading a book to Satchel (now Ronan) and Dylan when Tam, one of Mia's teenage daughters, who hated Woody because she knew about the Soon-Yi situation, started shouting at Woody and they got into an argument. Mia calmed Tam down and Mia and Woody put the kids to bed, but then Mia and Woody got into an argument about the incident and Woody left to go back to the city the next morning. It was that day, August 5, that Mia claims a nanny, Alison, notified her that several days earlier she'd witnessed inappropriate conduct between Dylan and Woody. Mia got off the phone, took her camera and interviewed Dylan on video about it, and said she continued to film and interview Dylan "whenever she woke up, in fits and starts" over the next 24 hours. The next day Mia then took Dylan to her doctor, and it was the doctor (a mandated reporter) notified the Connecticut authorities. Mia said she then called Woody's therapist but the therapist cut her off and said she was mandated to report Mia's allegations to the NY authorities.

    A few days later on August 13, Woody filed a custody suit against Mia, alleging (among other things) that she was physically abusive to at least one of the children, was overwhelmed by the number of kids with disabilities and provided inadequate care and attention, and was falsely accusing him of abuse against Dylan and Satchel. Mia said she was blindsided and she filed a countersuit, the shit hit the press fan, etc.

    ETA: I went and looked at the 1992 Maureen Orth article and in it says Woody claims he and Mia had broken up for good in January 1992, though Mia's "friends" told Orth that Mia still thought she and Woody "would spend the rest of their lives together" I guess until August?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^^
    so fucking a 20 year-old is some kind of gateway to fucking a 7 year-old? my god you're stupid.
    Uh no. Read what I wrote. This wasn't "a" 20 year old and "a" 7 year old. This wasn't Woody meeting some random young woman in a bar, having an affair with her and then....oops...he later finds out she's Mia's adopted daughter. This was a young woman who was as close to a daughter as he could have without actually adopting her. Yet he thinks there's absolutely nothing-zero-zip wrong about conducting a secret relationship with her. He feels he's not crossing a line because for him, there IS no line.

    So if there's no line to cross, why isn't Dylan's account allowed to be believable? If she's lying, what's her motive? She's got nothing to gain from her statement, she's got no book to promote, no movie to plug, no Oscar accolade to hope for.

    Of course, if Woody Allen has convinced himself that his is all one big, disgusting lie, he's certainly got the money to launch a slander suit against Dylan.
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    Wow. Barbara Walters looks and sounds awful.
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    ^I hate to say this, but if you're hanging on to "What would she gain by speaking out?" then there's no way around to having a discussion since you think that in itself is the proof of truth.

    And I don't know why people keep repeating that Soon-yi was like a daughter to Woody when a lot of people involved have come out and said that wasn't the case at all. Sure its uncomfortable, but its not criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^^
    so fucking a 20 year-old is some kind of gateway to fucking a 7 year-old? my god you're stupid.
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    ^^^
    absolutely out of line. but the stupid hurt so much i'll gladly take an infraction for it. in fact, i've just reported myself.
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    Discrediting the victim to defend a pedophile is working well I see.
    Allen deserves to burn in hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Kat* View Post
    And I don't know why people keep repeating that Soon-yi was like a daughter to Woody when a lot of people involved have come out and said that wasn't the case at all. Sure its uncomfortable, but its not criminal.
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    Ok then, it is not criminal but I, for one, cannot believe that you date a woman with kids and while you (meaning Woody) date that woman, have kids of your own with that woman -making her other kids and your kids are stepbrothers and sisters-
    even then, fucking the mother and her 19 year old daughter.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilmourgirl View Post
    Discrediting the victim to defend a pedophile is working well I see.
    Allen deserves to burn in hell.
    If he is a pedophile then there would be other rumors!! I don't believe she's his victim... I believe she's a victim of a scorned mom!!

    There are men who marry their best friends daughter all the time!! Same thing to me..it's not what I'd do but that doesn't mean he was grooming her!! Geesh!!

    In all the years of MJ there were lots of accusations and payoffs!! Where are Woody's??
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