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Reply With QuoteYeah, I think they do. I'm not saying that O.J.'s 'Mr. Innocent,' I'm just saying that the timing of this whole situation just seems suspicious.Originally Posted by Grimmlok
The justice system wasn't fair back then when he did get away with two murders- why should it be now? Oh well OJ, shouldn't have killed anyone and this wouldn't have happened.
The piles of evidence to support the fact that he did in fact kill them is undeniable.
Yeah, I think they do. I'm not saying that O.J.'s 'Mr. Innocent,' I'm just saying that the timing of this whole situation just seems suspicious.
right, it does show what his "character" is like and he did try to escape last time on national tv so i dont even know why bail was allowed, but it was and they took his passport but i honestly think he might run...again.
Actually he wasn't found guilty he was found liable.Well the civil court found him guilty
America! Where you can be guilty AND innocent at the same time
Just because he was at the scene does not mean he kidnapped or held a gun to someone either. You know?
There really weren't piles of evidence. I mean, the police said that Nicole clawed whoever killed her, but O.J. had no claw marks on him and the blood and skin under Nicole's nails didn't match O.J.'s. Ron Goldman fought off whoever killed him, but O.J. had no bruises on him.The justice system wasn't fair back then when he did get away with two murders- why should it be now? Oh well OJ, shouldn't have killed anyone and this wouldn't have happened.
You can call it whatever you want, but the piles of evidence to support the fact that he did in fact kill them is undeniable.
And then there's the matter of the cops walking around with a vial of O.J.'s blood, which isn't police procedure, and then returning it with half of the vial empty, and claiming that the blood evaporated, which is impossible.
Now that's not to say that O.J.'s innocent or guilty, but the case wasn't open and shut. And the LAPD screwed that investigation up royally.
maybe piles was an overstatement, but he's probably guilty- based on the evidence that supported the fact that he did commit the murders (I won't get in to the details but if you read about the case you can find all the evidence/specifics)
plus who the hell writes a book called "If I did it" ??
No, I don't think O.J. is innocent either. If he didn't do the murders, then he knows who did. And that stupid book he was planning to release just confirms that.
I think OJ did it, but the Prosecution botched that case royally. People bitch about Johnnie Cochran helping "OJ get away with murder" but truth be told, Johnnie Cochran was doing his job as an attorney, part of which is finding flaws in the arguements of the counsel.
OJ should've known better, he knows people have been after him for years, and he allegedly does something stupid like this. And don't get me started on the whole racial politics of the thing. Thanks to OJ, a black man who used the system to his advantage, regular black guys like me face the possiblilty of having a harder time getting a fair trial in court. (But I live a law-abiding life, so whatever)
Amen!
No, really, they weren't and they weren't so much in quantity,The justice system wasn't fair back then when he did get away with two murders- why should it be now? Oh well OJ, shouldn't have killed anyone and this wouldn't have happened.
The piles of evidence to support the fact that he did in fact kill them is undeniable.
contrary to what the proscecution wanted to make the public and
the jury believe. If that murder trial had been handled seriously,
fairly and professionally, over half of the evidence that was brought
to trial would not have been deemed admissable for simple reasons
of mishandling and contamination. The whole case of the proscecution
was botched AT the crime scene. I cannot begin to tell you what
huge mistakes were made there and by how many people.
Exactly. Many in the judiciary system here and abroad were absolutely
astonished that such contaminated evidence was accepted in this important
case and how many plain and simple facts were overlooked.
Like you, I'm not saying O.J. wasn't involved or that he is innocent,
just that if it were an anonymous murder trial the thing would have been
dismissed within five minutes.
O.J. is obviously a megalomaniacal, arrogant man, with an obvious
abusive streak in him. Still, that doesn't make the evidence on which
the case was built against him any less contaminated and mishandled.
Many in the judiciary system that I know think he didn't actually
commit the murders himself, but was involved in some way and
was at the crime scene during or right after the murders. In truth,
there is about as much evidence pointing at him as pointing away
from him. The reasons why he was acquited are solely to be blamed
on the police and proscecutors who did about as bad a job as
any small town hicksville law enforcement office could have done.
Warren Beatty: actor, director, writer, producer.
***** celeb
^Look: how convenient>
Sales soar for Simpson's 'If I Did It' - CNN.com
Source: CNN.COM
Fred Goldman can start counting his pennies.Sales soar for Simpson's 'If I Did It'
NEW YORK (AP) -- With O.J. Simpson in jail on charges of robbery and other
felonies, the best-selling book about his alleged murder confession is getting
a second printing.
Beaufort Books has commissioned an additional 50,000 copies of Simpson's
"If I Did It," the ghostwritten account of how the ex-football star would
have murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. The book,
which came out last week and on Tuesday ranked No. 2 on Amazon.com
and Barnes & Noble.com, now has 200,000 copies in print.
"The arrest brought the whole question of O.J. and the law back into
everybody's consciousness," Beaufort owner Eric Kampmann told The
Associated Press.
Simpson, accused of leading an armed heist of his sports memorabilia at
a Las Vegas hotel, was booked Sunday on six felonies, including two counts
of robbery with use of a deadly weapon. If convicted, he could get up to 30
years in state
Simpson has said that he was only reclaiming possessions that had been stolen.
Arraignment was set for Wednesday.
"If I Did It" was supposed to be released last November by ReganBooks,
an imprint of HarperCollins. But the book was soon pulled in response to
public outrage and a federal bankruptcy judge later awarded rights to
Goldman's family to help satisfy a $38 million wrongful death judgment
against Simpson, who had previously been acquitted of murder charges.
After signing up with Beaufort, a much smaller publisher than HarperCollins,
the Goldmans retitled the book "If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer" and
commentary was added from ghostwriter Pablo Fenjves and author-journalist
Dominick Dunne, who covered the Simpson trial for Vanity Fair.
Warren Beatty: actor, director, writer, producer.
***** celeb
^ oh gee, whatta shock....
but i feel incredibly sad for Fred Goldman, he seems completely devasted by his son's loss in such a manner. I cant imagine his pain.
Source: The Smoking Gun
The Felon Behind O.J.'s Bust - September 18, 2007
Here it says he didn't tell the police about taping the incident.The Felon Behind O.J.'s Bust
Meet Thomas Riccio: Arsonist, prison escapee, stolen goods dealer
SEPTEMBER 18--The California man who helped orchestrate O.J. Simpson's
memorabilia recovery mission (and then sold an audiotape of the raid to a
tabloid web site) is an ex-con whose rap sheet includes at least four
separate felony convictions, including arson, prison escape, and stolen
property charges, The Smoking Gun has learned.
Thomas Riccio, 44, has emerged as a key player in the Simpson case and,
presumably, would be a witness at any future criminal trial. Riccio, a sports
collectibles dealer, set up Simpson's visit to a Las Vegas hotel room where
the former athlete and his associates allegedly seized memorabilia at
gunpoint from two businessman. Riccio recorded part of the confrontation
at the Palace Station hotel and then sold the tape to TMZ.com, never
bothering to tell police about his surreptitious taping.
Court records show that Riccio--who has spent a combined total of eight
years in prison--was first convicted of a felony in 1984, when he was
nailed in New Jersey on a federal charge of conspiracy to receive stolen
goods. After bouncing around the prison system for several months, Riccio
landed at the federal lockup in Danbury, Connecticut in October 1984. Less
than three months later, Riccio escaped from Danbury, where he was
apparently held in a minimum security facility.
Riccio spent about five months on the lam before being apprehended in
California. He was subsequently convicted on a separate escape charge,
which resulted in additional time in the federal system. Riccio left a Texas
prison in August 1988 for a halfway house, where he spent a month before
his release. In total, Riccio spent nearly four-and-a-half years in federal
custody on the stolen property and escape charges.
Riccio was then arrested in early-1994 on arson and possession of flammable
materials charges. He later pleaded to those felony counts in California's
Orange County Superior Court and was sentenced to two years in state
prison.
That term, as it turned out, was served concurrently with yet another Riccio
felony conviction, this one stemming from the theft of nearly $500,000 worth
of rare gold and silver coins.
In that Los Angeles Superior Court case, Riccio was nabbed for trying to
fence coins that were boosted from a numismatic dealer show at a Long
Beach Convention Center show. According to court records, Riccio was
arrested when a vigilant Glendale dealer called cops after he recognized a
rare 1870 Cuban copper coin as having been stolen from Miami dealer Arthur
Smith. When cops later confronted him in the businessman's store, Riccio
exclaimed, "You can't prove they are stolen."
A subsequent search of two safes at Riccio's home turned up 1100 more
coins swiped from Smith, along with other items belonging to the veteran
numismatist. Riccio claimed that he had recently purchased the valuable
coins for $4500 from a white male who came into his baseball card business.
Riccio admitted to police that he sold some of Smith's coins in Dallas, Omaha,
and Oklahoma City. Additionally, before the Glendale dealer became
suspicious and called the cops, Riccio had, on two occasions, sold the
businessman some of Smith's coins. At Riccio's request, the dealer paid him
in Krugerands.
A Long Beach jury convicted Riccio of receiving stolen property, a felony for
which he was sentenced to three years in prison. He was also ordered to
pay Smith $165,000 in restitution. As a result of the two separate state
convictions, Riccio spent 37 months in the California state prison system.
He was released in October 1997, but was incarcerated again in mid-1999
on a probation violation (the details of which were not available at press
time). After four months in custody, Riccio was released.
On Larry King Live I believe he said he'd informed the police
about the tape right away.
Fact is that all "witnesses" have given multiple versions of what went
down in that room.....
Warren Beatty: actor, director, writer, producer.
***** celeb
There was incontrovertible DNA evidence that connected OJ to the murders in his vehicle, in his home, at Nicole's home...the list goes on. Yes, the LAPD bungled the case and there was contamination of evidence, but there was still plenty to convict him on. But between the bungling and the star-fucking judge and the "dream team," guilt couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, which is the standard. That doesn't make him innocent. Cops and lawyers know that guilty people walk all the time when the state doesn't make its case for whatever reason.
You can be sure if he were poor and black, Hispanic, white or polka dot, he would have been found guilty. The whole idea that this was a "race" issue is a crock. OJ was so far removed from black culture it wasn't funny, but hey, race is always a convenient card to play when the going gets tough.
they're all crooked crooks!
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