Octomom Charged with Felony Welfare Fraud

**Helena Handbasket** · January 14th, 2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by sluce

Yes there are often group homes and I have large sibling groups placed this way. Not sure how Cali handles it though.

Group homes for children are typically licensed for 6, so they'd need a few! There are different categories and funding sources as well as levels, etc. Again, these kids would probably qualify on several levels, dependency, developmentally disabled and/or emotionally disturbed.

Forgot to say it's all a moot point, she's probably not going to the pokey for this, I bet she even continues to get AFDC.

**A*O** · January 14th, 2014, 04:59 PM

More proof if any were needed that this woman is mentally and morally incompetent to have one child, let alone the tribe she spawned. Shame, shame, shame on the doctor who made it happen.

**Mel1973** · January 15th, 2014, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by sputnik

^^^^
i'm guessing her parents are going to end up taking care of them.

I would hope NOT. That's too many kids for one or two or even three people to care for - especially given that these aren't professionals.

Originally Posted by sluce

It would be better for the kids, and more cost effective for Cali, to rent a home and pay staff to supervise the kids in a group home like setting.

yeah...

Originally Posted by A*O

More proof if any were needed that this woman is mentally and morally incompetent to have one child, let alone the tribe she spawned. Shame, shame, shame on the doctor who made it happen.

shame on her, the doctor ... there's plenty of shame in this nasty situation.

**Novice** · January 15th, 2014, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Chalet

Why don't the video companies take taxes out of her paycheck?

It's not tax...

Originally Posted by CornFlakegrl

I see her as more of a mentally ill moron than a deliberate cheat. Also, with 14 children, it would be pretty easy to lose track of paperwork. It's annoying to me that the state seems to have ignored all other issues related to this woman and her poor kids, but they are right on top of the tax situation. Fuck over kids? No problem. Fuck with the state's $, go directly to jail, do not pass go.

See above!

Originally Posted by Mel1973

I don't think that's what's being said. She didn't report the earning of that $30,000.00 (that they know of so far) - not that that's all she made last year.

I bet it's not, and I bet that the investigation looked for everything....

Originally Posted by fgg

i wonder how much income you don't report would be worth an investigation *thinks about someone who is definitely not reporting some income and needs some comeupance*

DOIT!DOIT!DOIT!!!

Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja

I really want to smack her fertility doctor multiple times with a whiffle ball bat.

I want him to pay for the support of the kids he made.

Originally Posted by sluce

It would be better for the kids, and more cost effective for Cali, to rent a home and pay staff to supervise the kids in a group home like setting.

I thought that they were albeit with her as "manager".....

**sluce** · January 15th, 2014, 10:45 AM

For the record, Ty Warner (Beanie Baby founder) plead guilty of hiding 25 million of income to avoid paying taxes and he was sentenced this week to 2 years of PROBATION. Octomom certainly shouldn't get jail time for not reporting all of her income.

**mostroop** · January 15th, 2014, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mel1973

I don't think that's what's being said. She didn't report the earning of that $30,000.00 (that they know of so far) - not that that's all she made last year.

I thought she had made over $120k, the problem is that the guidelines for being able to collect assistance for a family of 15 was a little over 100k.
I am on my phone right now, and searching for that info didn't bring anything up.
I will have to look around later to see where I got this from.

Originally Posted by A*O

More proof if any were needed that this woman is mentally and morally incompetent to have one child, let alone the tribe she spawned. Shame, shame, shame on the doctor who made it happen.

**louiswinthorpe111** · January 15th, 2014, 01:28 PM

I don't think you do jail time, but rather have to pay the money the you received back to the state.

**Beeyotch** · January 15th, 2014, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by sluce

For the record, Ty Warner (Beanie Baby founder) plead guilty of hiding 25 million of income to avoid paying taxes and he was sentenced this week to 2 years of PROBATION. Octomom certainly shouldn't get jail time for not reporting all of her income.

Now THAT is some fucking bullshit. I bet it's all down to him being able to afford high-powered lawyers though, no?

**sluce** · January 15th, 2014, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by louiswinthorpe111

I don't think you do jail time, but rather have to pay the money the you received back to the state.

It's my impression that she did file a tax return, and reported income, except for 30k. I would imagine she would still receive assistance, but maybe not as much. We'll see.

**rollo** · January 15th, 2014, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by A*O

More proof if any were needed that this woman is mentally and morally incompetent to have one child, let alone the tribe she spawned. Shame, shame, shame on the doctor who made it happen.

Financially incompetent too. It's a disaster all round.

**Beantownfan** · January 15th, 2014, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by A*O

More proof if any were needed that this woman is mentally and morally incompetent to have one child, let alone the tribe she spawned. Shame, shame, shame on the doctor who made it happen.

His or her ass should be in jail.

**NickiDrea** · January 15th, 2014, 09:23 PM

If they know you can't pay back the cash, you're actually MORE likely to get jail time.

My colleague is handing a very similar case right now, the defendant has no prior record and the offer is a jail sentence with no restitution required or probation with full restitution. The DA knows he can't afford restitution. He is poor. It is their intent to punish him more severely because he can't pay it. I'm not saying he was right for committing welfare fraud but it's unfair that he has to go to jail only because he's poor. A rich person (they also commit welfare fraud) could pay back the money and get probation.

**Beeyotch** · January 15th, 2014, 10:39 PM

That's so messed up.

**Beantownfan** · January 15th, 2014, 10:55 PM

Mel, octo's Mother has gone on record saying at 74 that many kids would kill her. I feel sorry for her. She tried to help her incredibly stupid daughter by letting her live with her in the beginning.

**Mel1973** · January 16th, 2014, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Beantownfan

Mel, octo's Mother has gone on record saying at 74 that many kids would kill her. I feel sorry for her. She tried to help her incredibly stupid daughter by letting her live with her in the beginning.

I'd like to go on record saying "at 40, that many kids would kill me..." y'all can all quote me on that!