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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:13 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Eh, it just makes me feel better about the horrors I endured yesterday, trying on swimsuits.

*off to dig out the dry brush*
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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Lily:
I agree with all your posts. Good job!!!
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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:36 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Why can't a good body be considered an accomplishment too? It's something that you have to work hard to achieve. Some work harder at their bodies than they do at earning a degree.

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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Sweetie I think that it's harder for some folks to have good bodies than it is for others but that is much like a degree. Some people have an easier time with their studies than others do and the same can be said for your shape. I just kind of like when people work at least as hard as me in the gym. I love when I see girls with some muscle like Jessica Biel so there is prove that they aren't just dieting...they are putting in effort...I just like that.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #65 (permalink)
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^ Are you the poster who said he would not date a girl with cellulite?
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:00 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Mischa surely has got some cottage cheese but not that much. I believe the pic is so fake that it looks unreal.

And what news flash?? All women have cellulite, come on...
OK, I'll explain it for the SECOND, and hopefully last, time....the Newsflash part is sarcasm.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:02 PM   #67 (permalink)
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^ Are you the poster who said he would not date a girl with cellulite?
Nope don't think that was me....At least I don't remember saying that because around the time of those cellulite ridden J love Hewitt pics I said that I would still hook up with her...still find her attractive
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I couldn't remember if it was you or another poster, it must have been him then. Can't remember his name though
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With cellulite or not, I'd still think she is a vile disgusting girl.
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Butterfly I think that you are right...the only reason I give J Love Hewitt a pass on the cellulite is because I perceive her as being a nice girl...Oh ya the HUGE boobs help too! lol, but I don't think Mischa is a good person so I really hate on her cellulite...I guess I'm jaded.
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Well. Perhaps working hard at maintaining a perfect body is as much as waste of time as being a classics major.

Working hard at being considered physically perfect--making that your goal, and your number-one priority--makes one rather shallow, self-centered, and is not nearly an impressive achievement as it is to earn a Ph.D. These people have hard abs, no cellulite, but flabby brains. Not to mention: Working out at a gym and eating vegetables and having zero body fat is something that can be achieved quite easily, in comparison to becoming a doctor, lawyer, professor, writer---some have more discipline than others, but that discipline is driven by vanity. Any dum-dum can have a hot body. It takes a lot more work to finish a thesis, and learn three languages, sit in front of a board and then defend what you have written. I have more respect for professors than I do for supermodels or "hot" actresses. So they work out and drink a lot of water and get waxed. Wow, real impressive.

Of course, you can have both, in a way, but one of them suffers. This is just my opinion, mind you, but I have little admiration for those who are physically "perfect" or "beautiful"--that's like complimenting someone for knowing a good caterer. Perhaps I feel we spend too much time worshiping and idolizing bodies and having almost no respect for people who have genuine intelligence and compassion.

I never said we shouldn't care at all what we look like--but this idea that physical perfection is the thing worth striving for, more than anything else in the world, it's dangerous and it breeds a myopic culture of great shallowness and selfishness.
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^ But what about people who think of physical fitness less in terms of looking good and more in terms of athleticism? I don't really put the ability to do long-distance hikes, mountain climbing or triathlons on the same scale as simply looking good in a bikini. I enjoy working out and feeling fit, and it's never really been about being hot - I'd rather have some muscle than be lean and willowy with big boobs any day.

But I do both, I work out a few hours a week (it doesn't have to take more than that, and it can include sports), work three days a week and go to school three days a week to finish my degree. I plan to get a Master's within a few years, I just also plan to be an athlete at the same time. And I use that fitness to rough it while traveling and seeing the world, get around the city without a car, walk long distances (which I think is good for the mind as well), and play team sports.

That's not to say that I disagree with your underlying premise, I'd just hate to think that if I had a visibly fit and athletic body (which I don't at the moment, but have in the past and hope to again! lol) that it would be assumed I focused on that at the expense of my brain. One can only put so many hours a day into developing their mind anyway - if I use 45 minutes every other day to work out does that make me shallow?

(I'm seriously not trying to sound bitchy, I just don't think I agree that one necessarily has to suffer.)
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Old May 9th, 2008, 01:40 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Well. Perhaps working hard at maintaining a perfect body is as much as waste of time as being a classics major.

Working hard at being considered physically perfect--making that your goal, and your number-one priority--makes one rather shallow, self-centered, and is not nearly an impressive achievement as it is to earn a Ph.D. These people have hard abs, no cellulite, but flabby brains. Not to mention: Working out at a gym and eating vegetables and having zero body fat is something that can be achieved quite easily, in comparison to becoming a doctor, lawyer, professor, writer---some have more discipline than others, but that discipline is driven by vanity. Any dum-dum can have a hot body. It takes a lot more work to finish a thesis, and learn three languages, sit in front of a board and then defend what you have written. I have more respect for professors than I do for supermodels or "hot" actresses. So they work out and drink a lot of water and get waxed. Wow, real impressive.

Of course, you can have both, in a way, but one of them suffers. This is just my opinion, mind you, but I have little admiration for those who are physically "perfect" or "beautiful"--that's like complimenting someone for knowing a good caterer. Perhaps I feel we spend too much time worshiping and idolizing bodies and having almost no respect for people who have genuine intelligence and compassion.

I never said we shouldn't care at all what we look like--but this idea that physical perfection is the thing worth striving for, more than anything else in the world, it's dangerous and it breeds a myopic culture of great shallowness and selfishness.
If any dum-dum can have a hot body then this world wouldn't be over-run with fatty mcbutterpants. Just because someone is hot, in shape and proud of their body doesn't make them an idiot.

I know plenty of Dr's and lawyers that couldn't get out of the rain if their lives depended on it.
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^^Tati: Well, I have respect for athletes---and the stamina and wits one must have to be a first class athlete. That's different than just wanting to be beautiful for the sake of people wanting to think you're hot. You know?

It's not that I think anyone who is in shape is a vain asshole!

It's important to take good care of yourself. It's also important to take care of your mind, too. You know what I mean? I have a nice body--people ask me if I'm a dancer all the time. Which is stupid 'cause my boobs are huge. But whatever. The point is....there's a difference between people who take good care of themselves, and are in good shape and have an inner beauty and an intelligence and blah blah blah.

What bothers me is that there are those who obviously have no interest in anything EXCEPT for their bodies, and how they look, and you cannot hold a conversation with them. There are women out there starving themselves, feeling sick and unattractive because we've made some weird photoshop/porn star image the ideal of beauty.

You know what I mean?

Edited to add: Again, I maintain that any dum-dum can get in shape. I've met more "hot" people who were dumber than a box of hair, and had no interest in anyone else but themselves. I'll take an absent-minded professor any day.
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