Good for her! It's better not to follow the trend, or give in to
expectations, than to do like most others and do as badly at
parenthood as an alarming number of those others.
Holy crap! Uhm, the term "family" does not limit itself to offspring!
I would rather have seen that MANY people who have procreated,
had been barren instead, the way they FAIL to raise their kids to
become "upstanding, contributing" members of society!
This message is coming to you from a MOTHER.
Last edited by HWBL; April 5th, 2008 at 07:34 PM.
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I'm a mother too but I don't consider it to be the sole purpose of my existance. I wish a lot more women would refrain from breeding having seen the utterly crap job so many of them do whether they are 'cold career women' or SAHMs. If you raise great kids, good for you. If you decide against having them at all, good for you. If having children really is the ultimate achievement then the rest of your life must be pretty shallow and unfilfilled.
If all the women in this place were laid end to end, I wouldn’t be surprised - Dorothy Parker
Preach on! I love my husband to death and I have no desire to have kids. If that makes me a "cold, barren career woman" than so be it. At least I am happy with my life choices! My definition of "family" extends far beyond just children, I have a great family life - the fact that some women feel the need to put other women down who choose different life paths then them, to me shows their own insecurities in their own life choices. I don't give a shit what you do, I respect mothers who raise great kids, I respect working women, I respect women who are out there getting an education and doing their own thing....why should it bother someone else if someone decides not to have children? If they don't want them, thats a good thing that they are being responsible and not reproducing.
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I like sharing my kids with my friends who don't want children of their own. We're one big happy family. I have total respect for people who know themselves well enough to know they don't want kids. Some people have them because they feel they are expected to and then they and the children are miserable![]()
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Really, and this poster isn't?
Honestly, I followed the path society tells us to. I got good grades in school, went to a great university, and got a great paying job. But corporate life just left me so unfufilled. I am so much happier in life now that I am a mother to my children, and doing what I am really passionate about - working for a charitable organization.It's never been an ambition of mine either. It always annoys me when someone primary ambition is to get married and have babies. talk about setting low goals.
I just hate all these women who look down on women whose first priority is their children. I had a childless professor in college become outraged after reading an article stating that many women attending elite universities only plan to work until they get married and have children. And I got that same kind of snide attitude from jive. Women aren't failures in life if they choose to balance career and children, or even forego having a career to take care of their children. Women who look down on stay-at-home mothers are the real judgemental snobs.
And I could care less what any poster's reasons for remaining childless and barren are. I could care less what other people do with their lives. I'm just sick of all of the childless women flocking to every topic about a celeb who doesn't want kids in order to bash mothers. No one is judging them. They are the ones who seem to be going out of their way to justify their lifestyle choices.
So why then would you say its "feminazi propoganda" to not want children? Or feel like family isn't important to the childless woman? That indicates that you feel like women who remain childless are brainwashed.
I totally agree with you on your points that mothers should not be judged. I think its a worthwhile and noble job to be a mother, and one of the hardest. But you seem to be doing much judging yourself, I would think that much would be obvious if you just skim through your own post.
Women ain't gonna let a thing like sense fuck up their argument. - Chris Rock
Using emotive words like "barren" doesn't help your argument either. You strongly imply that you think women who choose not to have kids for whatever reason are not fulfilling their destiny somehow. Just because God gave us a uterus doesn't mean we have to use it.
And some of the WORST mothers I know are those who had kids because it was kinda expected of them and then decided to go back to a fulltime career.
If all the women in this place were laid end to end, I wouldn’t be surprised - Dorothy Parker
Purple Rain sounds either defensive as hell or rather trolly....I mean come on, continuing to use the word "barren" while claiming not to care if other women don't have kids....using the word "feminazi"....yeah, you're being deliberately insulting and provocative. Just because we agree with the stance that a woman shouldn't go along with society's impetus to have children if she doesn't want to, doesn't mean we're judging your life. Get over yourself.
I also think that just because purple rain met two women who may have been somewhat skewed in their perceptions of motherhood, that is no reason to assume all women who don't want children think that way. I know I don't. Lots of my friends have kids, some don't, I don't, and frankly, it doesn't matter one iota to me or them. It's about personal choice, period.
I'm just stunned that someone out there still seriously uses the word "barren."
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