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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #166 (permalink)
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I don't know, I can't see any other reason for taking a picture like this if it wasn't to sexualize her. I don't think the picture is pornographic, or even risque. But I do believe it was an attempt at having her look seductive. Is there anything wrong with a 15 year old looking seductive?
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #167 (permalink)
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that is one slutty avatar you have there, sweetie. she's totally nekkid under that sheet! I bet she just got her pussy beat up...
I didn't even realize my avatar was a whore. I better change it, I don't want to be provoking and supporting pervs and phedos.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:55 PM   #168 (permalink)
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It's not a question of who 15 yo boys are looking at, clearly they look at girls their own age. It's a question of the kinds of images that are put out there of young girls. This didn't just start with Miley, but the blase attitudes displayed here and elsewhere about these particular photos are proof that these types of images are "normalized". It's not ok to sexualize underage girls. What's next? Should they be able to do straight up porn? Maybe we should strip laws against engaging in sex with underage girls from the statutes?

Grown women doing cheesecake or even porn, which I have nothing against btw, is perfectly ok as they are old enough to make their own decisions. But don't think VF had no idea of the implications of these particlular images.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:57 PM   #169 (permalink)
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I don't know, I can't see any other reason for taking a picture like this if it wasn't to sexualize her. I don't think the picture is pornographic, or even risque. But I do believe it was an attempt at having her look seductive. Is there anything wrong with a 15 year old looking seductive?
I think it may be a metaphor for Miley being stripped of her privacy/possibly dignity for public consumption via the media. A statement piece. It reminds me of some of the early Kate Moss photographs, and that was basically what those images of her were supposed to represent.

It's a bit crap imo, not original at all.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:58 PM   #170 (permalink)
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^ Sasha, come on now, you know damn well no one is saying it is okay to sexualize underage girls nor is anyone saying they should do straight up porn. You are taking it to an extreme. I don't agree with teenage girls walking around or being photographed with their bits hanging out but this picture shows nothing at all. It doesn't show one inch of flesh that is near a private part. So she has messy hair that doesn't make it sexual.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:02 PM   #171 (permalink)
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But don't you think something can be strongly sexually suggestive and still not show nudity?
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Anybody remember this video, circa '93?

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


In it Liv Tyler, who was sixteen and Alicia Silverstonne, who was I believe slightly older play Catholic schoolgirls gone wild, driving around, winning amateur stripping contests, tricking men out of their pants. Shockingly, neither actress has yet checked in rehab...or died of syphilis.

Funnily enough, I don't remember that much contraversy (I miss the 90s!). Btw, teenage me LOVED that video. Yet I somehow managed to avoid emulating said behaviour, because I knew the differance between fantasy and reality, and because I knew my mother would KILL me. Maybe today's outraged parents should spend a little less worrying about celeb kids, and a little more time raising their own.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Shit, at 15 I had done much worse than this. Most teenagers that aren't goody goody with sticks up their asses do. It's part of growing up and starting to question your sexuality.

Hey, I LIKE the stick in my ass!
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:04 PM   #174 (permalink)
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Hey, I LIKE the stick in my ass!
I know that's right!
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:05 PM   #175 (permalink)
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Monday, April 28th 2008
Creepier?




Dear Britney Spears, please do something crazy! Miley Cyrus is getting too much attention.
Yes, I'm devoting another post to the Miley Cyrus/Vanity Fair scandal. It's not much of a scandal now that I think about it and I've thought about it way too much. Kathie Lee Gifford (I know, I really shouldn't watch Today) said that the above picture of Miley and Billy Ray Cyrus is much more disturbing than the semi-topless one. Hey, at least she's not topless in the one with daddy. Kathie said there is no way she would ever have posed this way with her daddy. Yeah, but you know she has a picture like this with Cody.
You know what's the most offensive thing about all of this? It's offensive that these redneck twats are getting this much attention! This is exactly what they wanted. Trish Cyrus is pissed she didn't get in on the action though. The Cyrus family is saving her for a mother and daughter spread in Playboy when Miley turns 18.
Now, I must punish myself for posting more of this shit. I will spank my ass with a rubber oven mit 25 times. I was going to do that anyway, but at least I have a reason now.
Indeed, the poses she strikes with "daddy dear" are kinda sick, too.


There's a lean and there's a lean. To pose in a sensually/sexually
suggestive lean WITH YOUR DAD/DAUGHTER is crazy.

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I think some people wouldn't be as cool about it, if it was their own 15 year old girl posing like that. She is 15, but she's still barely a teenager, she still classifies as a child, in my eyes. I bet most people here would'nt have posed like that at 15. I wouldn't have, and even at 18, I still won't, nor would I at 20, or 25, or 30, or whatever.

But whatever, it's a different opinion among many. I'm probably just a prude compared to most.
Yeah, me too. It's proof of how morals have changed. I don't know your age.
I'm not a prude and wasn't raised as one. But something in my gut just says
no. Especially with teenage pregnancies running rampant in the US especially,
girls doing blowjobs on several boys during lunchbreaks and not thinking anything
of it...... It all becomes meaningless. Giving yourself away, or - in the case of
all these young starlets and wannabe stars - selling yourself, for what? To what
purpose, besides being a billionaire by the age of 18? Or a crackho has been
like the Lilo's and Shittney's???? THAT's the new moral compass these days?
Geez, I sound like the churchlady, but I don't give damn.

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I think alot of the feelings about photos do have a lot to do with people's comfort levels regarding nudity in general.
That's a silly generalization about people you know nothing about.
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Of course, you are going to be told that it's only sexually suggestive to you.
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Hey, I LIKE the stick in my ass!
I'm more of an exit only when it comes to the ass.
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Lemon Juice!
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Or vinegar, so I hear.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #180 (permalink)
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I'm more of an exit only when it comes to the ass.

Lol, I honestly wouldn't know about mine. Except that it hates me.
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