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    Ratchet, never heard that before. Must hang out with more teens. I thought they misspelled "wretched".
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    ^Please, like she knows the word "wretched"
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    This is what I saw when I looked up ratchet. But I do believe she is trying to be trendy. I have heard this term before, only used in bad ways to describe a certain style. I've never heard it in real life, only on nowaygirl. So this is what ratchet is: I think ratchet means to be tacky. Why not just use tacky?
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    Miley Cyrus: 的'm not just this ratchet white girl. I work really, really hard"
    Shut your fugly piehole, twat. Or, as Archie Bunker would say "Stifle it".
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    Ratchet: The Rap Insult That Became a Compliment

    Last December, when Beyonc posted a picture on Instagram wearing doorknocker earrings inscribed with the word ratchet, the Internet exploded with speculation: It would be the title of a new single; she and Lady Gaga were collaborating again; she was shaking up her image; it was the name of her next album. Fueling the fires were comments Azealia Banks made to MTV Brazil that she and Lady Gaga were working on a song called “Ratchet.”

    Because Lady Gaga had posted a picture with earrings similar to those in the Beyonc photograph in September, it was thought that the two megastars, and perhaps Banks, too, could be working on a follow-up to their hit single “Telephone.” Eventually, Beyonc’s representative told the Cut: “There is no confirmation on any song titles.”

    One of Beyonc’s skills is trend-spotting, and indeed ratchet has been all over popular culture in the past year. LL Cool J released a single named “Ratchet” last November, using the word as an adjective to describe a woman who is only after a man’s money. In his September single “Bandz a Make Her Dance,” Juicy J boasts of his inability to refuse the advances of "ratchet” women. And in March of 2012, Nicki Minaj dropped “Right By My Side,” with Chris Brown, in which she lamented that “all them bitches is ratchet.” At the same time, the “Ratchet Girl Anthem,” a parody track recorded by Philip and Emmanuel Houston, collected tens of millions of Youtube hits. In it, the Atlanta brothers pretend to be ratchet women describing their ilk: They carry outdated flip phones, go clubbing while pregnant, and try to punch other women in the face. “Ratchet is basically a lack of home training — being out in public and acting like you don’t have any sense,” Philip Houston told the Cut. “Putting a weave in the microwave just to curl it, that’s ratchet.”


    Ratchet can be traced back to the neighborhood of Cedar Grove in Shreveport, Louisiana. “You talk to working class black people [down there],” says Dr. Brittney Cooper, a co-founder of the Crunk Feminist Collective. “Ratchedness comes out of that. And some of that particularity gets lost when it travels.” The first appearance of ratchet in a published song was in 1999, when Anthony Mandigo released “Do the Ratchet” on his Ratchet Fight in the Ghetto album. “Mandigo introduced me to the word, He got it from his grandmother,” remembers Angela Nichols, who goes by Angie Locc and rapped on the track. In 2004, Earl Williams, a producer known as Phunk Dawg, recorded a new version of the song, featuring the better-known Lil Boosie (currently incarcerated), from Baton Rouge, as well as Mandigo and another Shreveport rapper named Untamed Mayne. This version, and the associated dance, caught on and Mandigo’s Lava House Records began making a name for itself.

    In the liner notes of the CD, Phunk Dawg wrote a definition of ratchet: “n., pron., v, adv., 1. To be ghetto, real, gutter, nasty. 2. It’s whatever, bout it, etc.”

    But the popularity of the song, and the adoption of ratchet by other, bigger names in the business — especially as rappers from the “Dirty South,” like Lil Wayne, T.I., and Juicy J came into vogue in the later 2000s — meant the definition of the word could not stay in the hands of Lava House Records. “It’s not necessarily negative. You could say ‘I’m ratchet’ to say ‘I’m real. I’m ghetto. I am what I am.’ It can be light, too,” Williams, the producer, explains.

    When ratchet is used in hip hop, it can also mean cool, sloppy, sleek, or flashy. When Azealia Banks name-checks the word, as she often does on Twitter — “Ratchet bitches make the world go around” was one recent tweet — it’s hard to figure out exactly what she means, but it definitely has positive connotations.

    That doesn’t mean all black women have reclaimed the term. “There’s an emotional violence and meanness attached to being ratchet, particularly pertaining to women of color,” says Michaela Angela Davis, an image activist and former fashion editor of Vibe. She sees the ratchet phenomenon as related to a larger problem of how black women are portrayed in media.

    “We’re only seen through this narrow sliver, and right now that sliver is Ratchet. We don’t get to be quirky and fun and live in Williamsburg. Wolves don’t fall in love with us.” Instead, Davis only sees groups of black women fighting on TV in shows like The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Basketball Wives, and Bad Girls Club. “The only interest that pop culture has in black women is this ratchet world.” Later this April, at a symposium at Georgia State University, Davis will launch a campaign called “Bury the Ratchet.” It will look to reduce the negative depictions of African-American women in media, and especially target their affects on bullying.

    But there is more than the harsh side to ratchet, argues Dr. Cooper. While she recognizes that the expression, when used to describe a person, is often pejorative, she has also sees women embracing “ratchet … as an attempt to de-pathologize it” and to celebrate both its edginess and its roots in the southern working class.

    A man or woman can be ratchet in a way that emphasizes their authenticity, their realness, or their fierceness — another word that entered our lexicon in the past decade, in part due to Tyra Banks and her Top Model series. Like that last one, the term is sometimes used by young gay men in a complimentary context, something akin to “hot mess.”

    “Any type of vernacular that reaches the content of a Beyonc or Lady Gaga song — you can bet it’s hit gay critical mass,” says Patrik Sandberg, a senior editor at V and pop culture chronicler. “If you look at what the word refers to, it’s something gay men are really enamored with: a fucked up look.

    Someone who’s trying and doesn’t quite get it. If you’re insulting it by calling something ‘ratchet’, you’re flirting with it.” For Ian Bradley, a stylist and NYC nightlife maven, the word has quickly past its due date in gay culture. “The word is hella last year,” he says. “The ones who say it are the ones who are ratchet.”

    But how do the women who’ve dealt with the term more directly feel? “If Beyonc and Gaga did something it would be great, it would be badass,” Davis says. “I’m all about girls feeling badass. I just don’t want them to feel bad.”



    Ratchet: The Rap Insult That Became a Compliment - The Cut



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    The first time I ever heard this word was a couple weeks ago, when cracka-ass Skeery Jones from the Morning Zoo used it to describe a food. No one else had any clue what he was talking about, and he just sounded like a tool using it anyway.
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    I'm about Miley's age and this is the only time I've ever heard "ratchet". I guess I'm not down with the kids, yo.

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    ...and her commercial for the MTV Awards annoys the fuck out of me
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    Yeah 'ratchet' has been used in the black community for a while, now.


    Miley, you are not ratchet. you are ghetto. at least you are trying really hard. like vanilla ice hard.

    I wish rap would die in it's current form. So many words to use from and today's rap has an obsession with trying to use extreme negative words/behavior in a positive way. Why not just use positive words?
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    Miley's not ghetto. She's just a dumb cracker-ass little hillbilly.
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    "I'm young and living and in L.A., which is everyone's dream, you know"


    What a bubble she lives in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstanceSpry View Post
    Ratchet, never heard that before. Must hang out with more teens. I thought they misspelled "wretched".
    As my mother used to say, "There's no use in being ignorant if you can't display it". Well, Miley sure did. Comments like this make me realize that I'm starting to turn into a cranky old biotch. Then again, I couldn't bear hearing someone misuse the English language when I was a kid, guess my control issues are getting worse with age. Seriously, though...when Miley makes someone like Lindsay Lohan look like a Rhodes Scholar when she strings a sentence together, it might be time to go back to skool and brush up on word usage and basic vocabulary skills, kidz.

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    If there is one thing I cannot stand, it's when white people try to talk "street". Ratchet my ass.
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    She's really trying tooooo hard.....

    Miley Cyrus rocks edgy outfit, sports white hot denim shorts at recording session in Brooklyn

    The 20-year-old singer was seen in New York showing off her long and lean legs in a rocker-chic emsemble Thursday.

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    Miley Cyrus at a studio in Brooklyn, New York Thursday prepping for Sunday's MTV Video Music Awards.


    She's just being Miley around Brooklyn.
    Miley Cyrus was seen out and about Thursday in New York rocking an uber-edgy ensemble donning white hot denim shorts and a tight tee that read: "Ain't nothing but a G thang,” while heading to a recording session.



    She complemented her outfit that showed off her long and lean legs with her platinum blond hair in two top knots and black combat boots.

    Despite the fact that Cyrus' hairdo gives her the rocker chic look, the 20-year-old singer recently admitted she may be over the pixie cut and ready to have long hair back.


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    Cyrus goes rocker chic as she is seen heading to a studio in Brooklyn, New York Thursday.

    "I'm secretly tugging on it every night and taking Viviscal," Cyrus said, name dropping the hair-growth vitamin supplement during a recent E! Fashion Police episode.
    '"I'm not going to lie. But I'm going to rock it while I have it," she added staying positive about her current look.


    The former Disney star is currently gearing up for the release of her fourth studio album,"Bangerz," hitting stores October 8.
    The "We Can't Stop" singer's collaborates on the highly anticpated record with Pharrell, Future and Lukasz 'Dr Luke' Gottwald.
    Cyrus is in town this week as she preps for her performance Sunday night for the MTV Video Music Awards at Brooklyn's Barclays Center.

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