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    I agree that Debbie is the lesser of two evils these days. The fact is, Debbie's marriage and relationship with Michael was never anything more than a business transaction. It's not like they got married to have a family. She was basically a surrogate who showed up for a few family pics. From what I remember, she really never lived with those kids or even acted as their mother. So, once she met her end of the deal the marriage was over and they divorced. It's not like she "abandoned" her children for money, the deal was always about her having children for him to raise, not for her to raise.
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    i definitely think the Jackson home is effed up. MJ didn't hang around his family. he rarely brought his kids around them either. when his brothers or father would show up at his home he'd have security send them away. i think he'd be disgusted for his children to be with them. yes he named Katherine as guardian in his will, but he didn't think he would die. i've no doubt that Jermaine is a creep and probably hitting on Paris. he and Randy had kids with the same woman, they're nasty. i'm not too sure about Prince becoming a bad boy.. he has a Vine account and he seems rather normal. he's smart and gets good grades and has a girlfriend, he is also into art and animals. blanket probably does suffer the most because he's so young. but Debbie is not the answer. maybe Paris feels a bond with her and if so, she can choose to go live with her if she wants to. but i guarantee those boys do NOT want to be over there with her. they are Jacksons and that's where they feel comfortable, whether it's the best environment for them or not. Prince will be 18 soon and he can go off on his own and maybe he can get custody of Blanket.

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    Sadly the best thing is for these kids to grow up as quickly as possible and get away from the Jacksons and Debbie Rowe and their endless thirst for MJ's money.

    The trouble is, I think at least one of them will turn out like Bobbi Kristina Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitetigeress View Post
    I'm confused. I thought the general census is that she's a gold-digger who didn't care about her kids which is why she let MJ have them and take $$ for it.

    Some people think that, but I wouldn't call it consensus. See below.


    Quote Originally Posted by KrisNine View Post
    I agree that Debbie is the lesser of two evils these days. The fact is, Debbie's marriage and relationship with Michael was never anything more than a business transaction. It's not like they got married to have a family. She was basically a surrogate who showed up for a few family pics. From what I remember, she really never lived with those kids or even acted as their mother. So, once she met her end of the deal the marriage was over and they divorced. It's not like she "abandoned" her children for money, the deal was always about her having children for him to raise, not for her to raise.
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    Jackson Brothers

    Debbie Rowe Already Abandoned Her Kids Once

    4/11/2014 1:12 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF



    Read more: Jackson Brothers -- Debbie Rowe Already Abandoned Her Kids Once | TMZ.com


    Michael Jackson
    's brothers are refusing to allow Debbie Rowe to wrestle guardianship of Prince and Paris from the kids' grandma -- at least if they can help it -- telling TMZ, Debbie abandoned her kids for cash after they were born ... and hasn't cared about them since.

    Tito, Randy, Jermaine, and Jackie tell us, "[The children] are well loved and well taken care of. We are quite taken back [sic] that Ms. Rowe has decided now to enter their lives, after she abandoned her children many years ago for money."

    The brothers are referring to Debbie agreeing to give MJ full custody of Prince and Paris after giving birth to them ... in exchange for a lump sum of money.

    The brothers insist the Jackson family -- Katherine included -- wants only the best for Prince and Paris, adding, "Our only desire is to see our niece and nephews continue to go on with happy, healthy and safe lives. We will do everything and anything with in our power to help make that happen."

    As we reported, Rowe will file legal docs asking the judge to appoint her guardian so she can move the children to her ranch in Palmdale CA, where she has a business raising and breeding horses.

    Read more: Jackson Brothers -- Debbie Rowe Already Abandoned Her Kids Once | TMZ.com

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    i don't think any judge is going to give her custody. MJ had his will and testament for the kids to go with his mother, and she asked to have the uncle TJ added on to help since she's elderly. the boys are going to tell the judge they want to stay where they are. Prince and Blanket seem pretty happy to me, and like they love being with their cousins and family. Paris is the only one who may want to go live with Debbie. that will be something she'll have to ask for herself in order for any court to take it seriously, imo

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    She may only have a snowball's chance in hell but I don't blame her for trying. She was a paid surrogate, not an involved mother who abandoned her kids. But shit happens and things change like, Whacko up and dying and leaving those kids in the middle of a family snake pit. So now Debbie may actually being trying to help and do what is best for those kids. At a minimum, I hope Paris gets away from her pervy uncle.

    Either way, I hope none of those Jackson parasites see one dime of MJ's estate (excepting the kids of course).
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    Seriously? The Jackson's are the arbiters of "good parenting" now? That's seriously fucked up, given the child abuse allegations that they continue to pay out to make them go away.
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    This is the home that Michael Jackson is from, so there's that...

    And please, Randy, Tito and Jermaine can try and say whatever they want, but they're full of shit. If anyone is sniffing around for some cash it's those fools. They were all well aware of their brothers situation with Debbie Rowe and if they weren't, well, they're idiots.

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    Jermaine talking to TMZ about debbie and the kids
    he seems pretty honest here, when they ask if he thinks the kids want to stay with the family he just says they have to make the decision themselves.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04JCugBUTY

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    The brothers are referring to Debbie agreeing to give MJ full custody of Prince and Paris after giving birth to them ... in exchange for a lump sum of money.
    I don't believe that last sentence. It would discredit her in the eyes of a judge. However, I would be very curious to see what sum of money it would take for those Jackson wankers (not Kathryn) to sell the kids back to Debbie.

    And as for Debbie Rowe, yep she gave them up for money, but - in my opinion - it's no different to a surrogate mother giving away a baby for cash. This family has been in court, chasing money, every year since Michael died and they've got the gall to accuse someone else of wanting it. If it was only about cash, Debbie would have been contesting his estate within days of Michael's death.

    I honestly don't think it should matter whether Debbie gave up, or sold, or whatever the fact is, she is their mother and Paris for whatever reason wants to be with her, so they should fucking let her.
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    if there is a custody battle the judge will give heavy weight to what Michael and Paris say they want. They are old enough to be heard. Blanket (God it hurts to type that) will get a chance too since he is 12. I predict Paris will say she wants to go with Debbie while the boys stay with the Jacksons.
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    Has the Celebrity Wife Swap aired yet with Jermaine? That is one hot mess I want to watch. He has grown in to his own creep vibe and look, just like Michael did. Both of them look (and looked) almost inhuman.....*shiver* And I use to think Jermaine was cute back in the late 80's/early 90's.


    Regardless,....these kids are better off to be given some cash, and left to raise themselves. The Jacksons are a viper pit of dysfunction, greed and vanity,...and Debbie seems to be a white trash wanna be. Feral cats could do a better job than either of the choices the kids are facing.
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    Prince will be 18 soon and I'm sure he'll go off and get his own place. Not sure at what age the children will gain their inheritance but they are worth like 600 million dollars. Like we're talking major money. I know that the estate gives Katherine like 800k a MONTH for the kids. Paris may want to go live with Debbie. I don't think anyone would object if she honestly told them that was what she wanted. Blanket seems happy with the co-guardian Uncle (or cousin? TJ? Tito's kid) and his family:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornFlakegrl View Post
    She may only have a snowball's chance in hell but I don't blame her for trying. She was a paid surrogate, not an involved mother who abandoned her kids. But shit happens and things change like, Whacko up and dying and leaving those kids in the middle of a family snake pit. So now Debbie may actually being trying to help and do what is best for those kids. At a minimum, I hope Paris gets away from her pervy uncle.

    Either way, I hope none of those Jackson parasites see one dime of MJ's estate (excepting the kids of course).
    This is where it gets confusing to me. Because even though it was little more than a surrogacy arrangement, then again it wasn't. Most men don't marry their surrogates. She is their biological mother, and in fact surely the only person in this mess who has a bio connection to them at all. Just because she gave up custody doesn't mean she has no parental rights (and I believe she did give up parental rights but then went back to court at some point to have them restored, even though the custody arrangement didn't change) MJ being dead could very well be the game changer because couldn't she argue that she agreed to his full custody under the assumption that he would be alive to raise the kids?

    Again, not sure of the legalities but I don't think it's clear cut at all.
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